Clinton didn't just win TX ...she kicked ass

[sanjiadem]

So much for it being close ... fortunately, for the country, TX, OH, and RI voters saw through the smoke screen.

[lapfog_1]

1. say what?

75,000 votes out of over 2.1M is kicking ass?

and how do you describe the fact that Obama won more delegates today than Hillary did?

(that's a fact)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

11. of the "REGISTERED" Texas Demoicrats.....67% voted for Clinton

[kwenu]

20. Yes. Hillary won the staunch not a Democrat in sight counties.

In fact, Republican Williamson county ran out of democrat ballots. People on the radio were cracking jokes about it.

[jasmine621]

39. Prior to tonight, Obama was the beneficiary of the Republican cross-over

vote in an attempt to thwart Hillary. Not so nice being on the other end of the tactics, is it?

[kwenu]

43. Not so sure we're on the other end yet. Republicans won't come to a Dem Caucus.

Obama will be the Caucus King!!!!!

[JoFerret]

58. Prince.

,

[lapfog_1]

46. Who's tactics???

We are being played by repukes...

They are putting their thumbs on one side of the scale or the other, whenever they see the scale tipping.

They don't care who we run, they just want to make sure that we don't decide on who we run for as long as possible.

Those aren't Obama's tactics, those aren't Hillary's tactics... those are Oxycontin Rush's tactics. And they are WORKING.

Why do they want this??? look at what's happening here at DU... lot's of flame bait, lots of hate, lots of "I'm not voting in November if X is the nominee"...

They love this shit.

President McCain loves this shit.

100 more years of war in Iraq. Shit, forget Iraq, let's bomb Iran! His fundy preacher guy wants to bring about the end times anyway!

Health care with mandates/no mandates... Forget it, no health care for anyone!

The present votes on "right to life" bills in the Illinois Senate... HAH... President McCain has your supreme court overturn of Roe V. Wade right here!

Raise taxes on the wealthy and balance the budgets... Hell no... we will just keep floating more loans from our Chinese overlords!

Restore the Constitution??? overturn the Patriot Act, the Protect America Act, the Military Commissions Act... hell no, we will be spied on like never before, all for our own good!

[nonconformist]

49. And yet, the majority of Republicans voted for Obama. nt

[lapfog_1]

26. and that means what?

she can be the captain of Club Dem?

Really, why do you folks here believe that this is such a strong suit for her? Because Democrats are not the majority of voters...

That she cannot attract independents and crossover republicans is not a sign of strength, it's a sign of weakness. To win the GE, she will NEED those voters. Why will they vote for her in the general but not in the primary?

Or do you really believe that she can win in November without anyone other than Democrats to count on?

[kwenu]

37. Umm. It means that Republicans want to run against Hillary in the GE and not OBAMA!!!

[lapfog_1]

41. yeah, that's true.

Unfortunately they didn't get THEIR race wrapped up soon enough to cause real mischief with our primaries. Of course, there were many many threads here in the past few weeks making the claim that the reason OBama was winning so big was Republicans crossing over to stop Hillary.

[kwenu]

44. I can tell you that most who admitted to crossing-over recently switched to

Hillary because Obama is almost as likeable by Republicans as McCain.

[malik flavors]

27. There are no registered democrats in Texas. I just walked in and said I wanted to vote dem.

You don't register as anything.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

30. CNN reported this.....don't you have to rwegister a party for the GE?

[anigbrowl]

32. ??!

Of course not. Every citizen has the right to vote.

[lapfog_1]

36. Did you miss civics class?

Nobody has to be registered with a party affiliation to vote in a general election.

Heck, some places you don't even have to be registered to vote at all (you "register" when you get a drivers license).

Party affiliation only matters if you want to vote in a closed primary.

But never in a General Election.

[woolldog]

52. omg

do you really believe that? :rofl:

[woolldog]

51. Your numbers are wrong.

Learn how to read the exit polls.

[democrattotheend]

62. How would they know how REGISTERED Dems voted?

Unless the balloting process is not secret.

I am assuming you meant self-identified Dems, based on the exit polls.

[sanjiadem]

13. Party maniplation of the popular vote aside ...

She won, he didn't ... among American voters, that is ... and, while he might be able to intimidate or manipulate delegates ... Texans have spoken, and it's up to him to dismiss their vote.

[lapfog_1]

34. your post makes no sense.

she won among American voters??? Why, is Obama winning among non-American voters?

and it's not party "manipulation"... it's the Democratic Party. Democrats made the rules. They made them long before Obama was a candidate. And there isn't any intimidation going on, just voting and caucuses according the rules set forth by the Democratic Party of Texas. You don't like the rules, complain to them.

Texans haven't "spoken", they went and voted. And we don't have winner take all primaries.

Obama will get 10 more delegates (at a minimum) out of Texas than Hillary did. That's a fact.

And in this race, it's all about the delegates.

[nomorewhopper]

54. i estimate obama will take 7 more delegates than HRC from Texas

from tonight's action, I'd estimate (using proportional allotment unless otherwise noted):

Obama picks up 179 delegates
Clinton picks up 189 delegates


1) Texas - 193 delegates
a) Primary (65% of state delegates are assigned via the primary)
HRC - 63
BO - 62

(i got these numbers from the actual TX secretary of state website)

b) Caucus (35% of the state delegates are assigned via the caucus)
assuming the BO55-HRC45 split
HRC - 30
BO - 38

2) Ohio - 141 delegates
assuming the BO43-HRC55 split
HRC - 78
BO - 61

3) Rhode Island - 21 delegates
assuming the BO40-HRC58 split
HRC - 12
BO - 9

4) Vermont - 15 delegates
assuming the BO60-HRC38 split
HRC - 6
BO - 9

[dugggy]

57. All the RW radio was asking repugs to vote for Hillary

[anonymous171]

2. She just won TX. That is all.

[anigbrowl]

4. Wait for the howls when the caucus results are in.

They've already started complaining about how difficult and time consuming it is. So it takes 3 hours...once every 4 years. Sheesh.

[HooptieWagon]

33. I'll say!

when the math-challenged hillbots finally figure out Obama takes more delegates in Texas they're gonna be :wtf: and screaming like howler monkeys.

[Cant trust em]

5. She won the Texas primary. The caucuses are still unknown.

Let's see what the MSM has to say tomorrow.

[Cant trust em]

3. Since when is 3 points kicking ass

sounds pretty close to me. Ohio and Rhode Island on the other hand, were ass-kickings.

[Hailtothechimp]

7. Didn't Chimpy claim he had "political capital" back in 2005?

And how did that work out for him??

[Cant trust em]

16. political capital is such a bullshit concept

So now the opposition party is just supposed to cave to your demands now? Senators and Congressmen who weren't running for anything are supposed to kowtow to Bush now that he has a mandate? What a dumb idea.

[ClayZ]

6. You must be listening to FOX NEWS!

[madfloridian]

8. only 5% of caucus votes counted.

Caucuses 5% of precincts reporting

Obama 56 %
Clinton 44 %

[aquart]

14. WHERE are those precincts?

Are there any caucuses outside of the bigger cities? Does Loving have a caucus?

[meow mix]

9. cheers for negative campaigning

yaah

[amborin]

53. you mean like Obama's sleeezy misleading health care flyer in Ohio?

trying to strike fear into the hearts of low income voters to make them think they'd have to pay for health insurance?

[Skittles]

10. I'm in Texas

that's not what we call kick-ass - certainly unexpected though

[Ken Burch]

12. HRC DIDN'T WIN TEXAS. Texas isn't decided yet.

n/t.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

24. YES SHE DID!.........

[anigbrowl]

35. Wht a great pic of you.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

15. ~~~~~~

[sanjiadem]

19. Sorry to be the first to inform you, but yeah, it is

and O will have to concede.

By every projected count, she wins TX.

You might want to go cry in your beer now.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

23. oops this wasn';t meant for you it was meant for the post above me....I voted for Hillary

[Indenturedebtor]

17. Yawn

Yeah it's almost like all those states she won by 65%.

Err wait was that her or? :shrug:

Maybe it was the other guy ;)

But then again didn't that other candidate squander a huge lead in the polls to only squeek out a narrow victory? Or wait who was that again? Oh right ;)

[Hissyspit]

18. Obama seems to be winning the Dem Texas caucuses.

And may come out ahead or tied in delegates.

Hillary was way ahead a few weeks ago. She should have done much better.

Sorry, but you are being much too hyperbolic.

[kwenu]

22. He trounced Hillary in my caucus 2 to 1.

[RummyTheDummy]

21. Welcome to DU and.....

Welcome to the wonderful world of politics. You new to it?

[kwenu]

25. Obama will likely win the most Texas delegates.

Stay tuned.

[sonias]

31. That's right baby

It's not over till those caucus get reported and allocated.

My PCT 342 in Austin, TX the largest caucus in Travis tonight voted overwhelmingly for change.

My PCT voted 67% for Obama. My PCT gets 103 delegates to send to the Senate District convention at the end of March and our PCT will be sending 69 delegates for Obama to Clinton's 34.

Austin, TX and Travis loves Obama!


RACE NAME EARLY VOTES PERCENT TOTAL VOTES PERCENT
President/Vice-President
Joe Biden 77 0.07% 131 0.07%
Hillary Clinton 33,401 34.36% 62,379 36.78%
Christopher J. Dodd 48 0.04% 75 0.04%
John Edwards 378 0.38% 678 0.39%
Barack Obama 63,154 64.97% 106,084 62.55%
Bill Richardson 141 0.14% 240 0.14%
----------- -----------
Total Votes Cast 97,199 169,587
Early Provisional Ballots Reported 100
Total Provisional Ballots Reported 100
Precincts Reported 177 of 211 Precincts 83.89%
* County Turnout 30.53% 555,424 Registered Voters

Sonia

[TexasLady]

42. true

msnbc just showed 55 percent Obama to 44 percent Clinton in the caucus.

[casus belli]

28. We'll see when the delegate counts are in.

Your girl hasn't really won shit.

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[Jed Dilligan]

38. The 4% landslide

:shrug:

It's still a close race.

[Seabiscuit]

61. The 100,000-vote butt-kickin' margin!

[johnnydrama]

40. it is a little funny

Just like NH.

Weeks before the primary, Hillary is up by 20+

3 days before the primary, Obama catches up and takes a tiny lead.

The day of the primary, the momentum is gone a bit, and Hillary wins by 3.

Conclusion, She did so unexpectedly well, she's the comeback kid...

Say what?

[depakid]

45. Conclusion- people buy into whatever polls are meant to support their positions

The poll companies are like every most other companies in America these days- hire them to do a cheap poll, and they'll give you what you seem to want, regardless of what it's really worth.

It's a beauty racket- everyone wins (except those who don't) and even they have very short memories.

[grantcart]

47. and he won the delegates lol

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[CyberPieHole]

50. Clinton kicked Obama's slacker butt...for all the world to see...

and I LOVED it.

:kick: and rec

[LaPera]

55. The results prove you absolutely correct....

[last_texas_dem]

56. I don't know

By those standards, Shrub kicked Kerry's ass in '04. 51%-48% is no ass-kicking by my definition.

[Cha]

59. Didn't win the causcuses though and

her "asskicking" was a coward's way to go.

[Seabiscuit]

60. She won Texas by almost 100,000 votes!

That ain't chickenfeed.

That's kickin' butt.

[elehhhhna]

63. She can thank Limbaugh for it, too.