Roll of Limbaugh in Hillary win should be examined by party.

[CitizenRob]

We need to take a look and see how much of a roll Republican cross over voters had in getting Hillary to win. I'm not questioning her win, I just want accurate data.

[anonymous171]

1. Repug votes are good only if they go to Hillary!

Remember:
Make your vote (literally) count! Vote Hillary!

[jsamuel]

2. Republicans voted more for Obama than Clinton in Texas.

[Medusa]

11. And you know this how exactly?

:eyes:

[sykalla2]

15. Exit Polls ... Republicans = 52 O / 47 H *NT*

[casus belli]

37. Those statistics assume...

that the Republicans would be willingly divulging that they were voting in the oppositions election, and if they had alterior motives, it's highly unlikely they would admit they were Republicans.

"Yes, I'm here to rob the store, could you point me towards the cash register?"

[MADem]

49. Oh, how DARE you actually back up your assertion with facts!

:rofl:

:thumbsup:

[Metric System]

3. "Roll of Limbaugh" Blech, that just brought an image of a shirtless Limbaugh to mind.

[CitizenRob]

8. egads! My mind totally didn't go there, and no it did. I'm gonna cry.

[murielm99]

14. What? Are they going to roll him down a mountain?

Or is that supposed to be some sort of gourmet meal for cannibals? Roll of Limbaugh? Yick!

[Warren DeMontague]

36. I was thinking some sort of Sushi.

Yuk.

[Horse with no Name]

4. In Texas--67% of the Democratic vote went to Hillary

Independents and Republicans voted for Obama.
You might not want to scratch the surface of your accusation. You might NOT like what you find.

[CitizenRob]

9. I just want data. Where is yours from?

[Horse with no Name]

10. I read it in one of the posts tonight

You are welcome to comb through them...I'm not.

[BzaDem]

5. Be careful what you wish for.

How about all the states where Obama got a big boost from crossover votes? How about Wisconsin, where 9% of the vote were Republicans, and they went 70/30 for Obama. Or Virginia, where Republicans were 7% of the vote, and Obama won 72/23.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#VADEM

In fact, in TX, Obama WON the Republican vote, 52/47. So if Limbaugh did anything at all, it made the crossover vote negligible. As it should be.

[CitizenRob]

12. thanks for the great link.

Some of the data that is fascinating to me...

The "Most Qualified to be Commander in Chief" questions results are very interesting. Obama held a huge margin there, and that seems like one of the more important questions which could influence voter perception and their ultimate vote.

[CitizenRob]

13. FYI

that page doesn't have the data you referenced.

[BzaDem]

47. It's a very weird interface

You have to scroll over several pages to the right to get the "vote by party ID" results. You can also change VA in the URL to whatever state you want. The info is very interesting.

[Tarc]

6. What kind of rolls; Jelly rolls? Cinnamon rolls?

Mmmm, now I'm gettin hungry.

[nomorewhopper]

7. i have no problem with republicans who honestly are crossing party lines to vote for a dem

it's the ones who are trying to manipulate the system that are problematic

this is not american idol, and rush and his goons should not be able to fuck with our election

[MonkeyFunk]

16. LOL

and how do you determine the intent of the votes?

[CalGator]

19. you think 47% of Republicans REALLY voted for Hillary to see her win in November?

are you that retar---uh, SPECIAL?!

[MonkeyFunk]

21. Answer the question,, assho...uh...

buddy.

How do you determine the intent of the votes?

[nomorewhopper]

30. did you just call me an asshole?

there is no way to determine the intent of their votes, but two things are clear:

1) obama has brought millions of new voters into our party, including many former independents and republicans who are inspired by his brand of politics
2) rush limbaugh encouraged his listeners (specifically the ones in texas) to vote for hillary solely as an attempt to weaken obama so that john mccain has a better shot to win in november.

one of these groups is voting and supporting a democrat.

one of these groups is voting for a democrat but supporting a republican. and yes, it would be quite interesting to know just how many repubs crossed party lines to fuck with our election on rush's behalf. i bet he has a huge audience in texas, although honestly i have no idea whether tens of thousands or just ten people carried out his orders.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/04/limbaugh-urges-listeners-to-vote-for-clinton/

[MonkeyFunk]

31. No

do you know how to follow a thread? To whom did I reply above?

[CalGator]

32. to answer your question, then

YES, MOST OF THE REPUGS VOTING FOR BILLARY ARE VOTING FOR HER TO LOSE IN NOVEMBER. There is no friggin' way in hades that 47% of Republicans who vote in a Democratic primary are voting for the sworn enemy of the RNC. Congrats on permitting the hijacking the momentum for the democratic nomination so that you can say hello to President John W McCain.

[MonkeyFunk]

46. Now please

tell me how you determine which republican votes are sincere and which are not?

It's sort of silly to just say that all the votes for Obama and good and true, and all the ones from Hillary are malicious. Nobody who type is that stupid.

[nomorewhopper]

35. do you know that you asked me a quetsion, then made another post that said "answer my question ahole

thus insinuating that the slur was directed at me?

do you realize that was why i asked if you called me an asshole?

thanks for the smartass reply once again.

[MonkeyFunk]

45. There's a little piece of text at the top right of each post

that shows which post it replies to.

The person to whom I replied called me a retard. I called him an asshole.

[MADem]

50. You REALLY need to stop accusing people of things they didn't do

and learn how to follow a thread.

Look to the RIGHT of the post. Look for something in small type that looks like this (I just got this from YOUR post)

Wed Mar-05-08 03:01 AM
Response to Reply #31

See, this means that YOUR post is in reply to post thirty one.

That comment wasn't addressed to you. Learn the protocols. You'll be happier and you won't have to apologize to people for yelling at them when they didn't deserve it.

You're the one being a "smartass" and you're completely in error. Not working/playing well with others at all.

[BzaDem]

48. You are assuming that huge numbers of republicans didn't vote Obama because he might get defeated.

Point 1 is not clear at all; no one knows how many republicans he actually brought in that would vote for him in the GE. It certainly isn't "millions," and it might even be negligable. Independents, yes. But republicans? Probably not.

[NMMNG]

17. Yah. Rethugs = good if they help St. Obama. Bad if they allegedly help Hillary.

Piss off.

[Name removed]

18. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[NMMNG]

20. What part of "piss off "didn't you understand?

And I engaged my brain when I refused to vote for Obama.

[CitizenRob]

25. I WANT NUMBERS, FACTS AND SOURCES.

Engage your brain and meet the minimum standards for discussion with reasonable people. Posting LOLcat photos isn't the equivalent of discussion, it's just sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "I CAN'T HEAR YOU I CAN'T HEAR YOU."

[Jamastiene]

27. SO, go look those numbers and facts up.

And quit expecting everyone else to do the work for you. You are not entitled to know just because you demand everyone else do it for you, ya know. Or do you know that?

[NMMNG]

28. I don't have to answer to you

Or to any of the fuckers who wouldn't give me or any of mine the time of day when we had many valid concerns with Obama. Do your own goddamned research. I don't give a flying shit about your faux outrage.

[Skittles]

40. poor thang is very upset, eh Buffy

:rofl:

[NMMNG]

41. Yep, and my heart is breaking.

Where is my little violin? Oh yeah... :nopity:

[Skittles]

42. I don't understand how someone ON A COMPUTER can SCREAM FOR DATA

H E L L O O O O O O O !!!!!

[NMMNG]

43. I guess they don't know how to work the Google

:shrug:

[MonkeyFunk]

24. What is it with the Obama people on this thread

and the "retard" insults? You know that's really inappropriate and offensive.

[southern_dem]

33. And the Clinton folks

calling people F'ers and A-holes is any better?

[NMMNG]

39. Obama supporters can do whatever they want, you know

Because Obama didn't vote for the IWR and all. :sarcasm:

[sykalla2]

26. Republicans = 52 O / 47 H . There is your data. Now STFU and quit whining *NT*

[CitizenRob]

29. Thank you.

I went and found the data on the CNN site. I made a post about how to read the numbers since they are a bit confusing and some people are quoting the wrong numbers.

[casus belli]

38. See post 37. n/t

[nonconformist]

22. Republicans voted for Obama in Texas... 67% of Dems voted for Hillary

As for the roll...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

[blogslut]

23. Look all you want

I don't think there was a measurable number of them. I'm fine with the vote and am eagerly waiting the caucus results. I had a bit more hope but it's all good. We'll just have to campaign against Hillary for longer than I had expected. :)

[AX10]

34. Then we should examine all those Repubs who voted for Obama.

[New Dawn]

44. Same here.

John McCain and the GOP were the only real winners tonight.