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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:34 AM
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How Is This Party Going to Heal After the Primaries Going Into the GE?
How Is This Party Going to Heal After all the Primaries are done and we're Going Into the GE?

You know, it's going to be a whole different ball game -- one in which the Republicans are not going to be able to tinker with Democratic possibilities by such things as voting in our primaries to skew our choice of candidates. They will resume being the enemy and we'll be trying to beat them -- instead of beating each other.

I have to say that I have felt a certain bitter anger an pain that I know Hillary must be feeling too, having worked for minority causes all our lives -- for the causes of the abused, discriminated against, the old, the young, those weaker and unable to defend themselves, those who were outnumbered and bullied -- only now to have some of those who have benefited from that work, dole out slaps and kicks in the teeth with charges of racism and race-baiting, simply because Hillary is not Barack Obama -- and, in my case, because I have chosen to support Hillary and not Barack.

What a low and scathing blow is that, one that bites with teeth sharper than a serpent's.

Now not every Obama rooter is like that, and I have met at least a few very good and decent Obama supporters here in the past 2 days -- but those other O-Peeps who have been very caustic and un-nice -- and not just here, but seemingly everywhere -- have changed the way I see things, in a way that may take a long while to get over.

So I was wondering, how anyone thinks this division is going to be put back together?

Any ideas?



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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:41 AM
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1. Clinton/Obama....the Dream Team
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PFunk Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:42 AM
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2. Wont happen. Infact I'm pretty sure a large part of both sides wont heal from this.
Which bods ill for the party.
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:50 AM
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6. PFunk -- In Any Case, It May Take Awhile...
PFunk -- In Any Case, It May Take Awhile... I thought that Lula gave a peacemaker's answer and that was good... but I'm still a bit burnt by the treatment...
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:45 AM
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3. LulaMay... Quick Thinking and a Good Answer... I Have to Say! !:) -- [NT]
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:45 AM
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4. LulaMay... Quick Thinking and a Good Answer... I Have to Say! !:) -- [NT]
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:46 AM
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5. Not. A. Chance.
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:54 AM
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7. jgraz...
jgraz...

I'm not really ready for that ticket either, but I just can't take a kick at a peacemaker, and feel good about it.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:56 AM
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8. There's just too many suckers on DU
They all take the bait , the freep disruptor infiltrators are having a field day.
Then there are the psychos who have invested their tendency towards cliques into "their" candidate

Fortunately DU is pretty unique in its hellish and bizarre post wars

I work too hard in the real world to let anything said here get to me. It's letters on a screen.


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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:15 AM
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15. Capn Sunshine... Interesting Possibility...

Capn Sunshine... Interesting Possibility...

...of Where At Least Some of the Hostility is Provoked.

I must be very tired, because at first I had a hard time figuring out what you were getting at.

But you know it isn't all the doing of freepers...

There are some people of color I have known for years in RT and one women hurt my feelings so badly.

I'd try to explain my POV re: Obama, and she would literally say to my face that my attitude was based on color.

NO. It's not. It has nothing to so with his color, it has everything to do with -- what I perceive to be -- the content of his character.

To me the guy is a shape-shifter, and not to be trusted. :shrug:

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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:58 AM
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9. This is not a divisive primary. 1968 and 1980 were far more vicious and divisive
This is just competitive which is good, since both campaigns are bringing in tons of new people into the process and building volunteer infrastructures that will help the Democratic party up and down the ballot no matter who ends up getting the nomination.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:01 AM
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11. And how did those turn out for the Dems?**nm
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:06 AM
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13. Those were bad, but this is not 1968 or 1980
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:13 AM
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14. LSdemocrat,
I disagree; this has become divisive and vicious, and not, in my opinion, because of actions of the principals. The roots or bases of the lead candidates seem to have become the most negative aspects of the primary elections so far, and it may be due, again and as usual, to the media.

Who began calling names? Russert, wasn't it?
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:21 AM
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18. Except I find the divisiveness this time around is just too small and isolated to matter
So a small percentage of hyper-involved activists and staffers may harbor hurt feelings and resentment fueled by the media, but I'm about 99% sure we're not going to see any of the damaging spectacles we've seen from past primaries. We're just not going to see the equivalent of Ted Kennedy refusing to shake Jimmy Carter's hand at the convention or 1968-style rioting outside the convention hall or vicious vocal sparring inside the convention hall this time around.

Nearly all Democrats I meet still really like both candidates, and as long as both campaigns keep energizing voters and bring new people into the process, I see nothing wrong with the campaign continuing.


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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:48 AM
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23. Divisiveness seems to be
among 'base' 'net' 'grass' roots who are here, at DU, and elsewhere.

'68 rioting was result of mayor daley and vietnam, fed by proximity of all those Dems.

I just don't see same things going on now.
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:24 AM
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20. LSdemocrat... OMG, the Media Is Made up of Monsters! That's for Sure...

LSdemocrat... OMG, the Media Is Made up of Monsters! That's for Sure...

I it and watch a candidate say something, and the so-called "newsmen" sit there and plug in their interpretation of what was said -- and they don't match at all.

I think: *That's not what she said, or what he said... Warty-Frog, Over?*

See, what it boils down to for the Media is who are we supposed to believe, them or our own lying eyes? ~*:eyes:*~

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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:59 AM
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10. It's not likely to do so...
...The way things are hashing out right now, this is going to get uglier and more divisive, turning off voters and doing the GOP's work for them. In fact, there's a good chance that when all is said and done, the Clinton legacy in the Democratic Party is going to be greatly diminished in the years to come.

And I find it very unlikely Obama would be willing to run as Clinton's VP candidate if he is as prudent as it seems.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:03 AM
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12. We have had divisive primaries and contentious
conventions in the past. We have healed. It will take time.

I think republicans have a harder time. They tend to march in lockstep more than we do.

Someone here suggested that anyone who is too bruised by this go out and work in the grassroots. That is a very good idea. There are many state and local elections that need our attention. And don't forget all the Congressional races.

What I hope we don't see are a lot of undervotes at the top of the ticket. We will all need to unite behind the eventual nominee. Remember all those "Dated Dean, Married Kerry" bumper stickers? (It's too bad Kerry didn't fight harder for it. I think it was stolen from him). Some of us will vent. All of us must vote.
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desertflamingo Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:16 AM
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16. here's what i think...
i think the democratic party has bigger problems than healing the rift (which i think is really much ado about nothing) created between the clinton and barack camps. that doesn't worry me in the least. the bigger problem is the party itself. just look at the spineless, lying, duplicitous b.s. going on up in the house and senate. a total screw over of the people who elected the dems to take bush/cheney et al to the woodshed and what have we gotten instead? NADA!! where's the hardball we demanded? why is bush still getting EVERYTHING he asks for? why aren't he and cheney and rove and... and... and... ET AL in prison?

THAT is where the party has the problem. if things don't change and soon, i fear we're going to have a monster mess on our hands instead of a filibuster proof majority. that's what i think.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:24 AM
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19. But they're investigating baseball!**nm
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desertflamingo Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:26 AM
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21. exactly my point.
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:30 AM
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22. desertflamingo... No Argument From Me on Any of That...

desertflamingo... No Argument From Me on Any of That... Short of starting the Revolution, got any suggestions for how to fix any of it... because I'm fresh out of ideas for what to do. :shrug:

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:19 AM
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17. It won't n/t
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