NYT: Obama's crowds dwindle

[bidenista]

While Obama looks to exude "inevitability", his fairweather supporters tell a different story. As the euphoria evaporates, so does his popularity:

Obama Seeks to Rally Backers After Clinton Victories

By JEFF ZELENY
Published: March 5, 2008

...As Mr. Obama awaited election returns, he placed a congratulatory call to Senator John McCain of Arizona, who clinched the Republican nomination with a victory in Texas. The call, which his aides quickly announced to reporters, appeared to be intended to create an air of inevitability around Mr. Obama’s nomination.

Yet the spirit of his supporters who gathered in the chilly air outside the San Antonio Memorial Auditorium, seemed shaken by his defeats. The crowd was a fraction of the size of those that assembled in giant rallies across Texas and Ohio in the past two weeks....

More: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/05/us/politics/05dems.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

[griffi94]

1. it looks like the love affair

between obama and the media may be over. if the media starts really covering him, and not just panning shots of his rallys he's cooked imo. the youth vote while being wildly enthusiastic is notoriously un reliable.

[NDambi]

3. Hillary can't win...she can't catch him..and the crowds will be there.

[griffi94]

6. well she won texas and ohio

and if obama starts getting a bit more scrutiny from the media, he'll continue to lose ground.
he gives a great speech except he doesn't seem to say anything, and the media has only just started reporting that, and reporting some of the doubts that voters have about him. i'd bet when the public sees more of him he doesn't wear as well.

[BearSquirrel2]

9. Hillary doesn't say anything ...

Hillary gives BAD speeches and doesn't say anything except for claiming Obama has no experience.

[stahbrett]

12. You need to check the math...

Approximately 1/3 of the delegates that were remaining were up for grabs yesterday. It looks like after all of the delegates are awarded, Hillary - at best - will cut into Obama's ~150 pledged delegate lead by a maximum of 10-15 delegates. She now needs to win the remaining pledged delegates by ~70%, which would likely require her to win the popular vote by 75-80%.

[Ravy]

15. Getting a majority of delegates gets the nomination, not a majority of pledged delegates.

The notion that superdelegates will vote for the national pledged delegate winner is Obama spin, supported by the MSM who have national audiences. Only a few superdelegates are national by nature, the rest represent a congressional district, county, or state.

[superkia]

19. You people that keep running around like parrots and saying...

anything and everything the agenda driven media says, make yourselves look like very ignorant people. I hope your children never find out how dumbed down and controlled you are because it would embarrass them. Comments like this one:

"he gives a great speech except he doesn't seem to say anything,"

Before you post, try and give us a thought you, yourself came up with, don't show us that you are just a part of the dumbed down, brainwashed, sheeple in America. You are what we call the enablers and the reason our country is being destroy in front of us. Please wake up to what is happening around you and help the rest of America make our childrens future better. PLEASE!


Also, what has been taking place with Obama getting support from people that never got involved in the past, has less to with Obama and more to do with Clinton. America is being destroyed for everyone except the elite and people realize that Clinton is just more of the same. So waste your time talking about Obama all you want, you really should be out there fighting the fight and speaking about why you think Clinton is the better choice...or is she not?

[Samantha]

34. She has not won Texas

She prevailed by 4 points in the primary, the caucus results have not formally been reported. Obama is leading her and will probably get more delegates. So the claim of her win in Texas is not quite legitimate. It's a two-step -- remember?

[Cronus Protagonist]

21. Hahaha, you almost make me laugh

[rodeodance]

28. you crystal ball is broke

[JackORoses]

23. doesn't it suck to be Hillarite and have to be such negative, cynical bastard?

Doesn't seem like alot of fun.

[anamandujano]

39. We haven't had the time to think of that yet. The euphoria hasn't worn off yet.

:)

[Berry Cool]

2. And so it starts...

...the "He Was Just a Nine Days' Wonder...Whew! Now, Back to Politics as Usual" syndrome.

[Jawja]

7. Yep.

A"Hillary (who blew big poll leads in Texas and Ohio to eek out close victories that won't improve her delegate count) has the big MO!" Hillary - the comeback Girl! The Tide Has Turned for Hillary! Obama has been STOPPED. Obama is LOSING."

That will be the media spin. They set it up going in and that's what it is today coming out.

[blogslut]

4. We weren't dwindling

We were caucusing. I got home two hours after mine started at 8:00pm. When Obama gave that speech, there will still caucuses going on. We were busy.

[debatepro]

11. Our caucus ended about 9 minutes before he spoke...

there was no chance we could make it there. I can't believe this is "journalism". NYT has put out more crap that can be debunked by common sense in this election cycle.

[nolabels]

22. Is the same NYT that told their readers of WMD in Iraq?

Once a leopard.........:shrug:

[rodeodance]

31. They have learned their lesson.

[sonias]

20. Exactly

If we hadn't been doing the caucus work to give him the majority of delegates in Texas people would have been there. I was more important that people worked the caucus system than show up to a rally, that night.

We won the delegate count in Texas and that will be a fact when the convention rolls around. The Obama camp knows how to work a caucus system and that's the same thing that we will be doing at our SD conventions and our State convention.

Catch up on how Hillary is going to have a very hard math problem

Time Magazine 3/5/08
Clinton Wins Big, But Math is Troubling
But the March 4 results have not changed Obama's strongest talking point (and reality point) for why Clinton should exit the Democratic race: Math. It appears numerically impossible for her to overtake his lead among elected delegates.

Sonia

[Perry Logan]

5. In fairness, it was just one rally.

[npincus]

8. Bullshit. That was one event- and not a 'rally'.

Wishful thinking on your part.

[high density]

10. Darn his supporters for caucusing for him instead of going to a speech.

They're so crazy, yo.

[mmonk]

13. Yeah, what were they thinking?

[Avalux]

14. What crap! You know why the crowd was smaller? INVITE ONLY!!!!!

It was not open to the public, tickets were given at the caucuses. Jeff Zeleny is making an assumption without knowing the facts.

[rodeodance]

40. oh those details. people seldom read past the headline you know

[Orsino]

16. Investigative reporters for the New York Times...

...have uncovered the story of the century: that supporters of a candidate who loses a couple of races may be sad. :rofl:

Determined to fill inches, they imagine some sort of trend. If Obama continues to win most races, this will all be forgotten. If Clinton gets a streak going, this will mark The End of Obama in the pinheaded minds of the MSM.

What a waste of space.

[bdamomma]

17. the media can take a flying leap.

this is not over yet, and of course the corporate owned media is going to say anything to fuel the fire.

[izzybeans]

18. By 9:00 o'clock the next morning the crowd went to work?

Nice try.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. That's because they have finally seen through him.

He's a fake. He's a liar. He's probably involved in a land for favors scandal in the Rezko case and the people now know he's NOT the candidate the Democrats can win with in November. At least they woke up before it was too late!

[krkaufman]

25. Distortion of the facts... just like a good little ista.

Article only mentions one gathering, so "crowds", plural, is b-s.

And the frickin' rally being described is last night's post-election gathering in Texas, which just may have been affected by... say... Texas' goofy-assed pri-caucus system.

What pitiful spin. But, as evidenced by the last few weeks, demonstrably not beyond many in the Democratic camp.

[rinsd]

26. MSM might be turning on Obama.

[rodeodance]

29. eve.news showed of clip-BO on his plan blaming the media for his lose!

[anamandujano]

38. I saw that. He complained that they bought the story that they were

easy on him and hard on Hillary.

Hey dummy, we've got the tape. ROFL

[Nedsdag]

41. "for his lose?"

Not only are you Hillbots obnoxious, but you guys can't spell.

[rodeodance]

27. BO has LOST his MOJO

[Justitia]

30. Pretty fucking funny since we were in caucuses for him until 11pm & couldn't be there.

What a dumbass post.

[UALRBSofL]

32. bidenista, thanks for the article

Maybe this means in the coming months heading to Denver in august he will be Vetted by the press.

[Warren DeMontague]

33. It's already been proven this primary season that declaring yourself the inevitable nominee

is no way to win anything.

Proven by the HRC campaign.

[Warren DeMontague]

35. And if you always believe everything the NYT says, you probably voted for the Iraq War.

And you probably still can't admit it was a mistake to do so.

[redqueen]

36. So here we go with the "Earth Tones" shit...

they "seemed shaken" huh?

What utter crap... :rofl:

[SKKY]

37. Hello?? Caucusing??? It's your freakin' state, don't know how it runs?

[sueragingroz]

42. something tells me that a lot of his younger fans have a need for instant gratification

unfortunately, you rarely get that in politics...