Why won't Hillary release her Tax Returns?

[npincus]

Any of her fans here have a good answer?

[npincus]

1. the silence is deafening- keep this kicked, pls.

[Hugabear]

2. K&R

n/t

[TheZug]

3. Good question. Hit her and hit her HARD on this, Barack!

[MadBadger]

4. shes gonna release her tax returns on April 15th

[npincus]

7. you didn't answer the question- Barack released his early enough in the nominating process

to allow public scriutiny and MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE OUTCOME of the process. So WHY is Hillary waiting until the majority of the electorate has already voted? What's the answer?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8443_Page2.html

“All I can tell you is, I’ve released my income tax return because I think it is appropriate, if you’re running for the highest office in the land, for people to have a sense of how you make your money,” he said.

“Now, I think it’s up to Sen. Clinton and President Clinton to determine whether or not they want to follow my lead on that. … It’s not a question of what I want to know — I think it’s what the American people deserve to know, which is just how, in fact, are people’s finances handled.”

Obama called the release of financial records “a long-standing tradition in presidential politics — it’s like releasing your medical records. It’s part of the information that people make an assessment in terms of how you are going to perform as president.”

[Skwmom]

21. Her 2007 return? What is she HIDING on her 2006 return?

[Baby Snooks]

41. What is she hiding? Bill's income...

Bill Clinton has gotten rich. Very rich. And she doesn't want anyone to know how he got so rich. One clue may be those photos of him with his adopted father. Always smiling. Thinking about all the cash rolling in.

[PeaceNikki]

5. Because A) she's not the nominee yet and B) We're over a month from filing time

It's not rocket surgery.

[BeyondGeography]

6. Um, this is about her 2006 returns

Try to keep up, rocket surgeon.

[npincus]

8. LOL... HRC apologists, all.

They'll crow about Rezko till they're blue in the face, but they won't smell the stink in their own backyard.

Still waiting for an answer.

[Vinca]

10. I don't know about you, but I can grab my last year's tax return

from the file in less than a minute. Give me another 5 minutes to make a copy for you. They don't want us to know about something - I'm still betting on Burkle and the little building in the Cayman Islands. She's holding back the First Lady papers, too. I imagine, when the truth comes out her only foreign policy experience during those years was wrapping a Lalique vase to haul off to Chappequa, it might affect the race. Oh . . . wait . . . the race will be over. Hill's 35 years of experience: Wellesley, President of the Young Republicans; corporate lawyer; wife of a Governor of a small, southern state; First Lady (decorates Christmas trees, plans state dinners, selects china patterns, fails at sole policy task); Senator (props - makes a good senator).

[NDambi]

23. me too...she's dodging...nows the time to hit her hard on this..she wants to lead

then put those tax returns out there..Hullary

[MGKrebs]

9. I'm sure it's because those tax returns will reveal a huge scandal,

like that she has made most of her income from profits on the child pornography films that she's been financing. We would already know about this, but the IRS is not allowed to discuss it of course, and the only reason she hasn't been prosecuted is because of the obscure "ex-president's wife" waiver. She can get away with practically anything and we can't touch her.

[acmavm]

11. Because she doesn't have to yet. And she won't be bullied into

it by Baraki wan Obami.

[npincus]

13. that's a LAUGH... and why aren't you interested?

Shouldn't you be? If a Repuke candidate had the same position, what would you be saying?

[acmavm]

19. I'll know soon enough. You're just pissed cuz barrie got caught

with his hands in Rezko's cookie jar.

edit: The entire repukican party had their head up the Clinton's asses and couldn't find anything indictable. And they TRIED.

[npincus]

27. You'll "know soon enough" about her 2006 Tax Return? BO released his already

when it MATTERS in the nominating process. You aren't the least bit curious? I'd smell a stink if Obama refused to release last year's return.

Bullshit about Rezko... you want to get into dirty donors? how much did Denise Rich pay for Marc Rich's presidental pardon? That's part of Hillary's 35 year resume, you know. I don't think the HRC campaign wants to have that conversation.

[acmavm]

30. No, that's BILL. How much money did Michelle make off of

Walmart (even tho barrie had the guts to call Hillary on her Walmart association). No, its not bullshit about Rezko. Not at all. Or Donnie McWhatever, the homophobe preacher. Or any of his little antics.

[npincus]

33. Oh sure, HRC trumpets her hands-on experience/involvement in the Clinton Admin

- she's running on her experience. Well, HRC can't have it both ways; if she wants to own her role in the clinton Admin, she can't cherry-pick only the flattering moments. She owns it.

As for Michelle Obama, you may find her resume distateful but there is nothing criminal there as you seem to imply, likewise w/Rezko. You need to hold your own candidate to the standard you've set for Obama.

[acmavm]

34. MY friggin' candidate was John Edwards. The only fucking dem

in the bunch.

[npincus]

45. Edwards said his Tax Returns would remain "private"

if I remember correctly. So much for transparency in government.

[RBInMaine]

59. NOTHING, I say again NOTHING, illegal regarding Rezco.

[NDambi]

24. 2006, she has..if she hasn't filed them..she's really hiding something..try another angle

[npincus]

36. HRC has NOT released her 2006 Tax Return- she WILL NOT

"until April 15". Right. She's waiting until the nominating process is over (or so she thought it would be). Watch her backtrack on her promise... the bullshit will fly thick and fast.

Don't Hillary's fans smell a stink there? She knows it's hard to attack Obama for taking campaign donations from Rezko once the cast of characters making doinations to the Clinton library is disclosed... among other things.


http://www.examiner.com/a-1224714~Pressure%20builds%20on%20Clinton%20to%20release%20tax%20returns.html

Washington DC (Map, News) - A week after Barack Obama challenged Hillary Clinton to release her 2006 income-tax returns, she is coming under increasing pressure to make the document public. The New York Times, the country's most powerful liberal voice, said in an editorial Friday that the public was entitled to details of the $5 million loan to her own campaign, as well as her husband's murky business dealings.

"Release of the tax returns should not be made conditional on winning the nomination, as Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has made it," argued the Times, which has endorsed Clinton for the Democratic nomination.

The Times also called on the Republican presumptive nominee John McCain, who was also endorsed by the newspaper, to release his 2006 tax returns.

Both McCain and Clinton have promised to make the information available after the nomination process is over.

[acmavm]

37. WHHHAAAAAAAAH!

[NDambi]

38. lol...it was Obama the Hildabots would be screaming...

[acmavm]

42. I am an Edwardsite. So your Hildabot shit is falling on deaf ears.

I just love how this is turning out though. All the arrogance of the past two weeks blown to shit in one night.

[NDambi]

67. Be for Edwards...that should serve you well...how's it going for ya..f off

[high density]

12. If she's in it for the long haul sounds like its time to see

where all this crazy money is coming from.

[Angela Shelley]

14. OUCH! ... a slap in the face for every taxpayer.

[MannyGoldstein]

15. Because We'll See How Much Bill's Been Paid By His "Charity"

That's my guess.

[catgirl]

17. Bingo.

[nonconformist]

16. I believe she's already said that they're not together yet, but will be by April 15th. nt

[npincus]

28. her 2006 Tax Return... where is it hiding?

SO much for transparency in government (and honest government).

[Recursion]

48. 2006, not 2007

I wouldn't ask her to disclose her tax return for 2007; I haven't even submitted mine yet. Her 2006 return, however, would be worth seeing, and I think we deserve that. If she's making the ridiculous "vetted" claim, how about letting us actually vet her?

[Medusa]

18. Why do you think?

"I'll release them when I'm the nominee". Don't the citizens of NY State who elected her as their Senator deserve to see them and see the kind of financial sweetheart deals she and Bill are involved in now? Futuregate anyone?

[Coexist]

20. c'mon Hil - xerox us a copy

where are your tax returns?

[NDambi]

26. lol

[Voice for Peace]

22. K&R

I am still hopeful.

[OhioChick]

25. Always Hear Crickets on This One. n/t

[snappyturtle]

29. K&R

:kick:

[npincus]

31. Obama's 2006 Tax Return is online. WHERE is Hillary's?

Obama's 2006 Tax Return here: http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/files/obama_2006_tax_return.pdf

Why doesn't Obama challenge her to post hers online?

I want to start a new thread and post a screen shot, but I've maxed out my 24-hour allowance.

[Bucky]

32. Probably because she's as rich as John Edwards.

Like any sane person, she's cashed in on her notoriety with book deals & speaking fees. That's capitalism and it's perfectly okay. I just wish she could be more open & honest about it. I wouldn't resent her for making a boatload of money.

[SeaLyons]

35. She Will Release

her returns at the appropriate time - as any good Commander In Chief would. Don't worry!!

[npincus]

43. perfect timing! So the nomination process goes forward without transparency

and the People are the last to know who the CLinton Library donors are and where their wealth is coming from, for potential conflict of iterest matters. So you think she's been "vetted"? Wait until McCain gets his hand on her Returns IF (a big "if") she is our Nominee.

Your attitude is certainly very B*shian, very anti-Democratic, and insulting to the intelligence of the electorate.

[SeaLyons]

51. So you Think

Obama is transparent? I'd say he has quite a few questions to be answered, and it's his lack of transparency and ability to stand up to the heat that will keep him out of the White House. Hillary will do the right thing. My attitude is right on!!!!

Hillary for President!!

[npincus]

52. Here is Obama's 2006 Tax Return (link):

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/files/obama_2006_tax_return.pdf

Let me know if you find anything unseemly or even criminal.

Now, can you offer a link to Hillary's 2006 Tax Return? I guess not, since she's holding on to them until the nomination process is over. So, the question is what is she hiding? You only have faith, you don't have material fact-- which Obama has been forthcoming about. He has nothing to hide, apparently.

[in_cog_ni_to]

64. It's no one's business UNLESS she's the nominee.

Keep on whining though. It's so becoming.:eyes:

[npincus]

68. Ridiculous.

Candidates have been releasing their tax returns since the Watergate era- except for THIS cycle. The president works for US, we are hiring him/her and have every right to know if that person has benefited financially or has a financial relationship with a person/corporate entity that may influence his/her judgment and which may not serve our best interest. It makes no sense to time release AFTER the nomination, after it's too late for any potential conflict-of-interest discovery to change the result.

As for "whining', that's a handy response to something you don't want to hear. The most whining I've heard these days is coming from Hillary's mouth about her ill treatment by the MSM. I beg to differ; had any other candidate other than clinton lost 11 consecutive primaries they would have been written off. Hillary never was. The MSM loves the narrative of this election and will do everything it can to keep it going.

[npincus]

78. LOL- it looks like HRC was whining about seeing rick Lazio's tax returns in 2000!

Very becoming of HRC! :rofl:


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06EFD61E31F93AA1575BC0A9669C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

Mr. Lazio pledged to release his tax returns soon after entering the Senate race in May, but had not done so, raising suspicions about whether he had the kind of financial problems that have tripped up other politicians in New York in recent decades.

<snip>

The campaign of his Democratic opponent, Hillary Rodham Clinton, criticized the delay, asking whether he was hiding something. The State Democratic Party even sent a young campaign worker dressed as Uncle Sam to Mr. Lazio's campaign events, to shout at him to disclose the returns.

Mr. Lazio's aides said the wait stemmed from their need to review the returns. ''We said we would release them by the end of the summer, and we did,'' said Dan McLagan, a spokesman for the Lazio campaign. ''The only story here is Mrs. Clinton's desperation in basing so much of her campaign in attacking Rick on this issue. It shows the lack of seriousness on her part, and I think calls her credibility into question.''

Though the Lazio campaign said it wanted to clear up the mystery, it did not exactly put the returns on the Internet. Yesterday, reporters (but not the public) were allowed to view (but not photocopy) the returns at Lazio campaign headquarters near Grand Central Terminal.

The reporters got as much time as they wanted and were permitted to take notes, but the returns could not leave the room. Asked about such restrictions, Mr. McLagan said other politicians, like Gov. George E. Pataki, had used the same system. Many, including President and Mrs. Clinton, distribute copies.

The Lazio campaign did not provide originals of the returns, and they did not include the dates they were filed. Aides said Mr. Lazio has always filed on time and had never sought extensions or filed amended returns. He used an accountant, except in 1990, when it appears he did his return himself.

[canadian_is_cold]

39. I am more interested in why she won't release her White House records

[kristopher]

40. .

[truebrit71]

44. A question they keep dodging whilst slinging dirt about other topics....

...WHAT IS SHE HIDING?

[npincus]

46. Hillary's living in a glass house

now the question is, will Obama start throwing rocks at it?

[Recursion]

47. Because she and Bill are getting millions from Saudi Arabia and India

which is barely being disguised as a "charitable foundation"

[Life Long Dem]

49. She can be put away on this alone come Nov.

[npincus]

50. so much for being "vetted"

it makes me feel like she & McCain struck a deal-- not to release their returns through the GE.

[ChromeFoundry]

53. recomended n/t

[jackstraw45]

54. THE $5 MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION - Who has FUNDED her campaign?

What is she hiding?

[conscious evolution]

55. I would like to see Bills library donor list.

Bribes do not have to be paid beforehand.

[npincus]

56. *BREAKING** Obama Campaign Releases this Memo:

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/obama_campaign_strikes.php

Go, Obama!

TO: Interested Parties

FR: The Obama Campaign

RE: TAX RETURNS: What does Clinton have to hide?

DA: March 5, 2008


The Clinton campaign today maintained that “the vetting of Barack Obama has just begun.” The truth is, more than a year into this campaign, some very simple vetting of Hillary Clinton has yet to start.


In the face of her unwillingness to release her tax returns, Hillary Clinton has made the false case in this campaign that she is more electable because she has been fully vetted. When it comes to her personal finances, Senator Clinton’s refusal to release her taxes returns denies the media and the American people the opportunity to even begin that process. Though her campaign has tried to kick the issue down the road, Democratic voters deserve to know, right now, why it is she is hiding the information in her tax returns from last year.


The Clinton campaign has said that they have released copious amounts of financial information but there are many questions about their private dealings that could be answered in their tax returns but not in the information that is currently available. For example, here are eight pieces of information that could be learned from her tax returns, the accompanying schedules, and attachments:


* Effective tax rate – including whether or not any tax shelters were used to reduce it
* Amount of income for spouses by source
* Amount of stock gains and losses
* Gross income for the couple
* Amount earned from stock dividends
* Amount of household employment taxes paid
* Personal exemptions taken
* Charitable contributions made


Senator Clinton has also claimed that she is too “busy” to release her tax returns. Given the fact she is able to loan her campaign $5 million, you would think the Clintons would be able to hire an accountant. The reality is that she wants to keep this information hidden from voters. The people of Wyoming, Mississippi, Pennsylvania and the rest of the country should wonder why.

more at link above....

[in_cog_ni_to]

63. OOOOOH. That's deadly!

It's none of his fucking business what her finances are. She'll release them when she's the nominee.

WHINE ON, OBAMOIDS!

[thewiseguy]

69. BS on Hillbot

[npincus]

70. see post #68

I am sure your standards and judgement would change had HRC been the one to disclose her tax return and Obama the one to hide it from the public.

[redqueen]

79. Excellent. (nt)

[Orsino]

57. Because she's gotten away with concealing them...

...and obviously has something to hide.

Oh, I doubt that there's a huge scandal lying in wait. She may be covering up nothing more than an embarrassment of riches. At some point, I assume, keeping the secret may be more politically expensive than releasing the returns.

[npincus]

60. McCain won't release his either... something tells me the 2 of them

made an "arrangement" not to go there if they were the nominees.

[AtomicKitten]

58. She's too busy slinging mud.

[Marie26]

61. She thinks it'll be damaging.

I'm curious what the issue might be.

[in_cog_ni_to]

62. Why should she? It's not required by law and why

the hell would she want the fucking repukes scouring over her finaces if she's NOT the nominee? That would be INSANE. She's right to not release them. It's no one's damn business at this point.

[chyjo]

65. Voters in the Democratic primaries

have five million good reasons to look at them.

[in_cog_ni_to]

72. It's none of their business unless she's the CANDIDATE. n/t

[Seeking Serenity]

75. She already is a CANDIDATE. She is not (yet) the NOMINEE.

Why are voters in Democratic primaries any less important or less entitled to know about whom they are choosing between than the general election voters?

[NoBushSpokenHere]

66. Good ? nt

[rodeodance]

71. ha ha--you folks are D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E --all chatting amongst yourselfs~

[npincus]

73. Desperate? The math doesn't add up for Hillary

so don't plan your victory party just yet. And an Obama net gain for TX caucuses is likley, which means the TX vicotry is split between the 2.

Unlike Hillary, he's run a decent, respectful campaign. Hopefully he's learned theat being decent doen't work when someone's throwing "the kitchen sink" at you. Go, Obama.

And Hillary, since all presidential candidates have provided thier federal tax returns since the Watergate era, just why are you hiding yours until the nomination process is over?

[npincus]

74. morning self-kick

[Bluerthanblue]

76. because she's a woman-

?

We don't have to play fair.

:shrug:

makes as much sense as any of the answers so far-


Good question Npincus- the answers leave more than a little to be desired.

peace~

[Seeking Serenity]

77. Maybe she could claim that since Bill is likely listed as the primary taxpayer

and she's just the "spouse" (assuming they file jointly), that they're really Bill's tax returns and he's not running.