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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:30 AM
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And so it continues
First of all, congrats to Hillary supporters who have stood by her thru thick and thin.

That being said, what are we to do? On one side, Obama supporters can point out that for all of last night, Hillary cut into the 150 pledged delegate lead that Obama has by a mere 5-10 candidates, and will continue to show the math proving that she cannot catch up to him. Hilary supporters will point out that she is having a comeback and should stay in. We can look forward to more weeks spent ripping each other and our chosen candidate to shreds for several more weeks here.

Oh joy.

Meanwhile in the real world, I expect the negativity to worsen as both candidates must go increasingly on the attack against each other in order to score points, while McCain stands off to the side playing the pious, above-it-all candidate with his "my friends" crap.

As it stands right now, generic dem beats generic rep come fall two to one. With our messy infighting on a new roll, I expect to see that happy stat change pretty darn quick: Saint McCain will easily beat the Devil Clinton or the Satan Obama in November.

I am willing to be reassured by anyone's supporter that I am wrong.:-(
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:37 AM
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1. Clinton didn't gain that many delegates today
By my guess about 20 not counting the Texas Caucus. It looks like there is going to be a BIG court battle over the caucus.

Obama has and still does lead in the pledged delegates and he's narrowed the gap on super delegates (I think he was down by 70 something super delegates at one point and now he's only down by 40).

We'll see what happens in the next two states. They are both small and red states, not ones that Clinton does well in. After that there is a 6 week break until Pennsylvania and then I think a couple weeks after that until the early May states. My state, Oregon, votes in May.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:46 AM
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3. We have all these arguments already
My question is: how do we produce an unbloodied Democratic nominee this fall? I am not optimistic.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:21 AM
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4. A candidate who distinguished himself/herself would have been a great start.
If Senator Obama or Clinton really wants to clinch the nomination, either could drop the corporatism and advocate something really progressive. Americans have proven hungry for even the word "change." Offering us something substantial, such as universal health care not designed by and run for the benefit of insurance-company executives would be a great thing. Let one of our Dems sponsor and help pass real economic relief, such as the repeal of the Bankruptcy Reform Act.

I think, though, that our candidates are too wedded to Big Money for either to break out in such a manner.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:39 AM
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2. You're not wrong; our two final choices have *ALWAYS* been losers to McCain in head-to-head matchups
You're not wrong; our two final choices have *ALWAYS* been
losers to McCain in head-to-head match-ups. We had a candidate
who actually defeated McCain in polling, but we kicked him to
the curb back in January.

I'm reasonably convinced that we will lose in November. I'm
starting to believe that our candidate (which it ends up
being) will also have no or even negative "coat-tails" for
the down-ticket elections.

I think it's likely to be a very gloomy December around here.

Tesha
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