When Rush wants his supports to vote for your candidate, don't you think that is a problem?

[jeffrey_X]

I mean, Rush and his following of dittofucks want Hillary to be the candidate.

Shouldn't we all have a problem with this?

[Breeze54]

1. Like Limpballs matters?

Who gives a rats ass what that moron says?

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. About, last count, 20 million ditto heads

and HE IS the first in the noise machine

You discount him at your peril

By the way, according to Hartmann Fox and Friends asked how many people in Texas voted the Dem ballot as rush told them. So far 1200... multiply that by an order of 100 for those who did not hear Fox or are not motivated enough to email them.

[JustDavid]

16. RIGHT!

Who cares?
20 million people that listen, thats who.
Rush is THE biggest name in talk radio...like it or not.
I don't like him.....but I don't even begin to underestimate him and the damage that he can do.

We don't give a rat's ass what Rush says. But the entire readership of DU is a mere fraction of his daily audience.
We better start caring what he says.

Whats the old saying: Keep your friends close, enemies closer.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. I can't stand to listen to the guy either

but many on this board forget the role he plays in the right wing media machine

Never mind David Brock has even told them just how CRITICAL rush is to the noise machine

By the way, welcome to DU

:hi:

[avaistheone1]

22. Bill Kristol and Hannity have come out supporting Obama

So what does that say about Obama?

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. They did not start pushing Obama the day after the 2006 election

like they did with Hill. That is a fact

Now what does it tell you about Obama? They want people in charge that fundamentally will NOT rock the boat.

So that is what it tells you about Obama.

Fundamentally neither of these two dems will rock the boat when it comes to foreign affairs and free trade economics. Why I will be holding my nose come November when voting for the Dem... change I don't expect it, at all

[avaistheone1]

26. I am with you.

I have been saying all along in the case of both Obama and Hillary --- "the new boss is the same as the old boss".

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. It is NOT rush, it is the right wing

they have been pushing her candidacy since 2006

And I know why... clinton hate is so deep that the regular shmoe that is angry with the GOP and otherwise would stay home, will be there for a GE. They know that. She is their best chance to stay in the WH. And what amazes me is that many in DU (and out of DU) have yet to realize just how much HRC, Barack Obama AND John McCain are media creations that truly were first elected by the powers that be.

This race is BY design. Nothing accidental or coincidental about it

[jeffrey_X]

5. More info here...

http://reason.com/blog/show/125327.html

<snip>
Now, look at Ohio. Once again 9 percent of voters were Republicans, but Obama and Clinton split them evenly, 49-49. Once again, 14 percent of voters were "conservatives," and Obama and Clinton split them 48-48. (Obama did better with them than he did with liberals and moderates.) Those tactical voters who thought Obama could win gave him a 80-18 victory, a margin twelve points smaller than the margin in Wisconsin.

It's a similar story in Texas, where Limbaugh has the most listeners of any of these states. Obama won the Republican vote 52-47, but conservatives (22 percent of all voters, up from 15 percent in the Kerry-Edwards primary) went against Obama. For the first time since Super Tuesday, they were Clinton's best ideological group: She won them 53-43. And Clinton won 13 percent of the people who said Obama was the most electable candidate.

Ohio didn't wind up being very close, but Clinton won the Texas primary by about 98,000 votes out of 2.8 million cast. If the exits are right, about 252,000 of those voters were Republicans, and about 618,000 were conservatives. Clinton truly might have won the Texas primary on the backs of Rush Limbaugh listeners.

[TahitiNut]

14. Huh? You don't think the grass roots is responsible?

After all, haven't we based almost all of our opinions on the excellent coverage of policy positions and analyses of the directions each candidate promulgates?

No? :crazy:

:argh:

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. No, if you actually ask a (insert hill or obama supporter here)

what are their policy positions and they will actually have an empty look in their eyes.

I know, I've done it.

My niece is all for Obama... so is her friend... both bright college students. So I started probing with actual gosh darn it, policy questions... and they didn't even know about the famous 2002 speech. Don't worry, they knew they disliked HRC as well, but not exactly why... again, they didn't know what she stood for either.

I know this is two college kids...

And her parents, (granted they don't get to vote since they are not US Citizens) like Obama too. Their opinions were wholly formed by TV... and no policy knowledge whatsoever. My brother (who thankfully does not vote either), his opinions were wholly formed by American TV and he FEARS Obama. Oh and he is a good example of how far the right wing noise machine has reached.

It is good to get away from DU from time to time and talk to real people if you catch my drift.

Do this experiment with your less engaged friends and family. Look for the insert candidate here supporter, and ask probing questions. I am almost betting you will repeat this almost to the T.

By the way... that scares the living daylights out of me.

[ClassWarrior]

4. Vote switching schemes usually fail. What does worry me is this...

"We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically." - Rush Limbaugh

That is definitely within his influence. And lots of Dems are following him blindly.

NGU.

[JustDavid]

6. YEP

Rush is an EXPERT at slinging mud.

I think its safe to say...that Limpballs has something waiting in the wings on Hillary. (who doesn't)

But there is no use throwing it out right now....that would only help Obama. Rush, along with all other RW pundits, will wait until after the covention to bring up any dirt they may have.

He has a reason for that. Like I said, we are dealing with experts here.

[Mags]

7. When Hannity thanks you guys everyday for helping his

Stop Hillary campaign, doesn't that present a problem?

[AX10]

9. For Obama's minions, it doesn't.

Because they are blinded by Obama.

[Mags]

12. oh, yeah forgot, blinded by the light of his halo

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

8. No. I Don't. I Tend To Not Give A Shit What Republicans Like That Think.

Neither should you.

[JustDavid]

17. OK then.

Lose again.

[theboss]

10. They need Hillary to find the dirt on Obama

They don't need any dirt on Hillary. Everyone knows everything already. Obama was a blank slate prior to this primary though.

The important fact to remember is that the right wing does not trust McCain to dig up or use any real dirt on Obama. They essentially think he is a pussy.

So, they need the stories to get out there now. And they need Hillary and her team to push them.

Remember, any time that a Dem complained about the Willie Horton ad, all a right-winger had to do was say "Al Gore."

They need Hillary to imply that Obama is a Muslim. They need her to imply that he is dirty because of Rezko. They need her to state that he has no record and no experience.

The longer she is in, the more fodder she can give them.

[ClassWarrior]

15. They need her to say McBush would be a better POTUS than Obama.

Oh, that's right, she already did.

NGU.

[SKKY]

11. Ann Coulter prefers Clinton over McCain...

...:wtf: is that all about? People just don't see this for what it is.

[rinsd]

13. So earlier this month when they were saying vote for Obama that was ok?

[jeffrey_X]

18. When were they saying vote for Obama?

link?

[rinsd]

19. From the mouths of Hannity supporters

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=542041

Here's a PEJ story

PEJ Talk Show Index: March 4 - 9, 2007
A Talk Tango: Anti-Clinton Hosts Praise Obama

The fact that Hillary Clinton took something of a pounding last week wasn’t big news. But an examination of the talk outlets revealed an interesting twist to that pattern. Whatever the motivation, some of those conservative hosts are not only using their microphones to blast away at Clinton. They are also embracing, or at least saying nice things about, Barack Obama, a liberal Democrat whose primary virtue in their eyes may be that he can defeat Clinton for the nomination.

http://www.journalism.org/node/4582

Only suckers fall for the "Oh the rw is touting so & so"

[ClassWarrior]

21. Doesn't matter who their harebrained vote-switching schemes target.

They usually don't work. What could work is this:

"We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically." - Rush Limbaugh

Are we going to help him with that effort? Or are we going to drop the scorched earth campaigning?

NGU.

[Horse with no Name]

20. Problem is

the republicans broke for obama.
Seems they don't follow orders anymore.:shrug:

[JNelson6563]

27. No!

Anything that helps achieve what I want is good. Getting what I personally want is all that matters.

:sarcasm: