Will Obama Hit Back Hard? USA loses moral authority of democracy if will of the people is ignored

[powergirl]

The Clinton campaign will defy the will of the people with their tactics. The scariest part for the Clinton campaign are the comments regarding the "world is watching" and comparing this election to those of new African nations where elections were had without honoring the will of the people. Our nation loses it's moral authority on the promotion of democracy throughout the world if this election is determined in any way other than the will of the people. Obama's superdelegates will reflect the will of the people. Clinton's will not. Yes, I know about Kennedy and Kerry and they should support the will of the voters as well. But even with those, Obama gets the overwhelming majority of those delegates that are determined by the people. I don't want another Bush/Gore problem. The people want Obama and he will be the nominee if democracy is followed.

"Behind the scenes, the Obama strategy is twofold: to start fighting against the GOP opponent, and to amp up the fight against Clinton. Both are crucial in getting Democrats—especially the superdelegates who will decide this nomination—to focus on what lies ahead. With McCain the GOP nominee, the Obama camp is convinced that the party will not want to endure several weeks of hand-to-hand combat.

"Obama's aides are more than ready to turn their half-hearted criticism into a full-blown attack on the Clintons. Among the targets on the Obama campaign's list: the Clintons' tax returns, Bill Clinton's international business relationships and the secret donors to the Clinton foundation.

"However the campaign is unlikely to move from 0 to 60 in a matter of days. First they are banking on wins in the next contests, in Wyoming and Mississippi. At the same time, they are likely to roll forward with a series of new superdelegate endorsements. Along the way, they will issue thinly veiled threats about the kind of negative campaign they could unleash if the party wants the race to continue.
No matter what the delegate counts look like—and Obama is likely to maintain his big lead through the end of the primaries—the debate for the party remains the same. Will the superdelegates overturn the popular vote and the pledged delegates?

"That's the democratic test that Obama referenced at the end of his speech in San Antonio. It was the tale about the Ugandan grandfather of a campaign volunteer who was watching the contest for a living lesson in democracy. "The world is watching what we do here," Obama said. "The world is paying attention to how we conduct ourselves. What will we they see? What will we tell them? What will we show them?"

"The answer, for Obama, is for the Democratic Party to follow the democratic principle of listening to the voters."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/118890/page/1


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[grasswire]

1. I'm glad you raised those threats of his.

I thought they were extremely creepy. I hope that someone decodes the words and spells out for us exactly what is behind those threats.

I thought those words were extremely inappropriate for a presidential candidate.

[RaleighNCDUer]

3. Threats?

What "threats"?

Is saying that, in a democracy the people's voice should be preeminent, a threat?

[grasswire]

4. no

Saying that the American people should vote in a way that does not elicit some mysterious and unspecified actions of non-Americans. That's creepy. Actually, it's more than that but I have to spend some time thinking about this. What he said was a warning, and it was coded. Some will know exactly what he meant; others will have to parse it.

[RaleighNCDUer]

5. WTF?

He was saying "we are the finest example of democracy in the world - and the world takes its cues from us. If we ignore the democratic vote of the people, how can we object when other countries to the same?"

There's no coding there. The world IS watching us. Just as they are watching Russia, and the annointment of Putin's chosen successor, and knowing THAT is not democracy at work.

Why are we feared and hated around the world? Because for 8 years we have NOT been a democracy - the whole world KNOWS that Bush was selected, not elected. Do we want to continue that trend?

[grasswire]

6. I don't see anyone advocating a "selection" here.

Who might be doing that??????????

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. You're making shit up. nt

[grasswire]

8. if you can't answer the question...

...then you are the manure spreader. Who in the Democratic Party or on DU is advocating a "selection" of president in 2008?

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. You love to play dumb, don't you.

"The answer, for Obama, is for the Democratic Party to follow the democratic principle of listening to the voters."

That is clearly a reference to the superdelegates voting in accordance with the majorities in their own states. To outside observers, who we were speaking of, seeing the superdelegates vote against the majority wishes - in either direction - is clearly less than democratic. Putting it in simple words for you, when a state's majority - as reflected by their pledged delegates - support one candidate but the party insiders, the unpledged superdelegates, support the other and the nomination is decided by them instead of by the majority vote, THAT is "selection", not "election".

As for "making shit up" - you still haven't explained what "threat" Obama made. You implying that he is a terrorist or something? Or maybe that we just can't trust a Muslim.

[buff2]

2. Ummm......we lost democracy back in 2000

Remember? Supreme court seating the idiot,going against the will of the people?


Now we will see the REAL Obama in the days to come.