So how many Repubs helped Hillary gain delegates yesterday?

[El Supremo]

Any exit polling on the Limbaugh Factor?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

1. Not Sure. But I Know Not Nearly As Many As Helped Obama.

[joeybee12]

2. Oh yeah, when Obama loses, gotta be something fishy...

...I mean, he's God, right, people in Ohio are stupid and Republican right?

[Debi]

6. Actually republicans did vote for Clinton more yesterday than in any other

primary. Call it what you want.

[lumberjack_jeff]

8. So Texas Republicans are less likely to interfere on his behalf than elsewhere?

'Ol Rush's influence seems kind of marginal, doesn't it.

I find it interesting that when republicans vote for BO without any intention of supporting him in the general, it's not a big deal.

But at the slightest hint that these faux supporters may have partially abandoned him in Texas, it is.

[Debi]

10. I'll have to go back through my posts here and find where I was complaining

.......................

Somebody's got a bug up their ass. :eyes:

[joeybee12]

13. Yeah, but more went for B.O.. still...

...I call it much ado about nothing...oh, and sour grapes...oh...and there are a lot more Repukes in Texas than probably any of the other states that voted so far...

[Debi]

21. But more went for Clinton than in previous contests

Which ate into how Obama had previously prevailed.

[rinsd]

17. Obama won GOPers 53 to 46 when they were 9% of the electorate(CNN exit poll for TX).

Hillary was able to win by holding close with Obama in indies and winning Democrats well.

http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#TXDEM

[Debi]

23. More republicans voted for Clinton than had in previous contests - isn't that what was asked?

<snip>

Now, look at Ohio. Once again 9 percent of voters were Republicans, but Obama and Clinton split them evenly, 49-49. Once again, 14 percent of voters were "conservatives," and Obama and Clinton split them 48-48. (Obama did better with them than he did with liberals and moderates.) Those tactical voters who thought Obama could win gave him a 80-18 victory, a margin twelve points smaller than the margin in Wisconsin.

It's a similar story in Texas, where Limbaugh has the most listeners of any of these states. Obama won the Republican vote 52-47, but conservatives (22 percent of all voters, up from 15 percent in the Kerry-Edwards primary) went against Obama. For the first time, they were Clinton's best ideological group: She won them 53-43. And Clinton won 13 percent of the people who said Obama was the most electable candidate.

<snip>

[MonkeyFunk]

22. And more Republicans voted for Obama yesterday

than Clinton.

[Debi]

24. But LESS than in the previous contests

This isn't rocket science. She received more republican votes than she had in the past contests. That along with her other votes helped her defeat Obama in Ohio and Texas. Had the GOP voters continued to support Obama the way they did in previous primaries/caucus Clinton's lead would not have been as large. How difficult is this to figure out.

[rinsd]

31. He received more Republican vote than in any other contest.

This was the highest GOP turnout any open Dem primary by far and Obama won their votes 53 to 46.

[Debi]

33. Why do I have to repeat myself?

LESS (percentagewise) republicans voted for Obama than in previous contests the margin was LESS.

Arguing that more people voted than before is moot - more people have voted in EVERY contest SO FAR than in the past contests.

[Independent-Voter]

28. Ohio voted for Bush TWICE. They're not the brightest bulbs there.

Most folks that could have left the state have done so by now. There's a fair amount of backwash swishing in Ohio.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

3. Yes, Obama won Texas Republicans by about 53-47 (52-48? don't remeber exact figure)

[Debi]

4. Politico has it

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/The_Rush_effect.html#comments

<snip>

Go and check the exit polls. In Wisconsin, Republicans made up 9 percent of the Democratic primary vote. Obama won them 72-28 over Clinton. Just as tellingly, 14 percent of primary voters said they were "conservative," and Obama won them 59-40, a bigger margin than he won with liberals or moderates. Tactical voters who said Obama stood a better chance of winning in November? They went for him 87-13.

Now, look at Ohio. Once again 9 percent of voters were Republicans, but Obama and Clinton split them evenly, 49-49. Once again, 14 percent of voters were "conservatives," and Obama and Clinton split them 48-48. (Obama did better with them than he did with liberals and moderates.) Those tactical voters who thought Obama could win gave him a 80-18 victory, a margin twelve points smaller than the margin in Wisconsin.

It's a similar story in Texas, where Limbaugh has the most listeners of any of these states. Obama won the Republican vote 52-47, but conservatives (22 percent of all voters, up from 15 percent in the Kerry-Edwards primary) went against Obama. For the first time, they were Clinton's best ideological group: She won them 53-43. And Clinton won 13 percent of the people who said Obama was the most electable candidate.



What's this mean? Psychologically it's hilarious: Every joke that's ever been told about how the right needs the Clintons to survive is true. Hillary Hatred is the gas, the ethanol, and the rocket fuel of the staggering GOP.

<snip>

[lumberjack_jeff]

5. 0.0

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4902785&mesg_id=4903635

[Debi]

7. What does your post have to do with cross-over republicans? n/t

[lumberjack_jeff]

9. I thought it was fairly clear.

The Voters

Clinton's base came through for her strongly today, as it has at other times in the past. She enjoyed solid support among women, older voters, the less educated and less well-off, and those who consider themselves Democrats. Obama demonstrated his base support among the wealthier, African-Americans, independents and liberals, and the young.

In Ohio, Clinton won 58 percent of the vote of women, including the votes of 68 percent of white women. She also won 59 percent of the white male vote. Obama won black women and black men with 84 and 87 percent respectively. In Texas Clinton won 55 percent of women's votes, while Obama won 50 percent of the votes of men.

In Texas, Clinton won another important constituency - Latinos. Clinton won 67 percent of the Latino vote, compared to 31 percent for Obama.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/05/politics/main3907555.shtml

[Debi]

11. Do I really have to ask again?

I thought this thread was about republican voters.

Maybe you don't understand the difference?

[leftynyc]

18. The answer is in comment #3

Do you keep missing it because it doesn't feed into your paranoia?

[Debi]

20. You should have read down to #4 or was that too high for you to count?

I'll repeat the important parts here:

<snip>

Now, look at Ohio. Once again 9 percent of voters were Republicans, but Obama and Clinton split them evenly, 49-49. Once again, 14 percent of voters were "conservatives," and Obama and Clinton split them 48-48. (Obama did better with them than he did with liberals and moderates.) Those tactical voters who thought Obama could win gave him a 80-18 victory, a margin twelve points smaller than the margin in Wisconsin.

It's a similar story in Texas, where Limbaugh has the most listeners of any of these states. Obama won the Republican vote 52-47, but conservatives (22 percent of all voters, up from 15 percent in the Kerry-Edwards primary) went against Obama. For the first time, they were Clinton's best ideological group: She won them 53-43. And Clinton won 13 percent of the people who said Obama was the most electable candidate.

<snip>

++++++++++++++++

Analysis for those who are thinking impaired - more republicans voted for Clinton on March 4th than had voted for Clinton in the previous contests. A direct response to the OP's question.

+++++++++++++++

And your snarky post still doesn't answer why the other poster continues to write about Democrats voting when the question was about republicans voting.

++++++++++++++

[leftynyc]

27. That's quite the pretzel

you're twisting yourself into. The reality is that Sen Obama got more republican votes than Hillary - in direct answer to the OP. Now you probably are one of those who think the pukes that voted for Sen Clinton were up to mischief and the ones voting for Sen Obama were pure hearted angels who just wanted to vote for a messiah. You're so busy trying to justify this that you don't even realize how ridiculous you sound.

[Debi]

32. You can't change the facts

more republicans voted for Clinton in Tuesday's contests than had in past contests.

I didn't cite any reason for their votes or any concern about their votes.

I just answered the question.

Why would that make me sound ridiculous? I didn't call them pukes (which is juvenile) nor did I comment on my feelings toward Clinton or Obama - since that's not what the OP asked for. But you throw your dislike for one candidate over the other into the thread all you want. It doesn't make me look ridiculous.

Oh, and glad you learned how to read down-thread, congratulations on that.

[Fresh_Start]

12. Blame the democratic party for open primaries

if you don't want other people to throw sand in your eyes

[El Supremo]

14. I do!

[LeftCoast]

15. Funny. Just the other day a bunch of Obama folks were touting how many repub's he'd win in the GE

Now that Clinton might have gotten some repub votes, of course it's a sign that she's satan incarnate.

Don't any of you see the irony here?

[goldcanyonaz]

16. The Dick Morris factor of his begging Repugs to cross over and vote for Obama wasn't enough for BO

to pull out a win.

[CitizenRob]

19. Sorry about the flamefest you're about to endure.

Here's the deal. Registered Republicans voted for Obama more than Hillary on 9% of the total Democratic ballots. (I don't remember the exact percentage but it was something like O:55% and C:45%)

The question that needs to be ask is that if Rush hadn't asked his supporters to vote for Hillary if that number would have been more honest in leaning torwards Obama among Republicans. I personally find it difficult to believe that any Republican would vote for Hillary after the villanization she has endured by the right wing media for the last 16 years.

Ultimately though with Republicans only counting for 9% of the Dem ballots we're not talking enough to have really swayed either Ohio or Texas to Hillary's advantage since she won by more than the Repub vote either way would have counted for.

[CitizenRob]

25. After looking at the numbers... there may have been a Limbaugh effect

It may have given her a boost, but at only 9% of Dem ballots voted on by republicans, that means that only 4% (47% of the 9%) went to Hillary. Hillary won the vote C:51% to O:48%. That puts them within 3%-age points of each other. I personally find it hard to believe that any Republican would vote for Hillary, so perhaps it is possible that Hillary won because of the Limbaugh effect. It really is one of those things we'll never know. Too bad the exit poll didn't ask.

[Independent-Voter]

30. Ohio bigots put her over the top.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/04/730736.aspx

[Horse with no Name]

26. I know two republicans that voted for Clinton

Friends of mine that I have been talking to.
However, I actually quit talking politics because I really value their friendship and didn't think I was making headway.
Anyway, I saw one of them today and she told me that she AND her daughter voted for Clinton and would do so in November.
It wasn't because of what Rush said...it was because of what I said.
Surely in your venomous search to credit Clinton's win to Rush...you realize that MANY of us here on the ground in Texas have been talking to our republican friends for several years. Some of our efforts are coming to fruition.
The credit belongs to us activists...not to Rush.
You give that creepy slimeball too much credit.
You know what I think?
I think Rush KNEW that factions of republicans would be voting for a change and he decided to take a chance and take early credit for it.
You got punked dude.

[leftynyc]

29. Thanks for that iinteresting info

Of course Sen Obama supporters think the pubs voted for him out of the purest of intentions and the pubs that voted for Sen Clinton are making mischief.