MATH

[LSK]

http://www.slate.com/features/delegatecounter

How exactly will Hillary win this???

:shrug:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. She's in deeper shit now than she was on monday.

But some people think math is hard.

[bicentennial_baby]

12. Numbers are sexist

[Maven]

2. 2025.

Is that too hard for you to understand?

[LSK]

3. thats great, HOW?

[Maven]

8. How, indeed.

That goes for both of them.

[LSK]

11. one enters the convention with a pledged delegate lead

I will leave it to you to figure out who that is.

[Maven]

15. And yet, that marginal lead doesn't entitle him to the nomination

I'll leave you to work out your cognitive dissonance on this issue.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. Actually, it pretty much does.

You're stuck using the supermajority as a crutch. The 2025 number has been irrelevant for some time now.

Obama's going into the convention with a majority, and that means he's going to win the nomination. Dems aren't stupid, we're not going to have another '68.

[Maven]

22. LOL.

The 2025 number is not irrelevant no matter how much you want it to be.

Neither of them has won the nomination and the process is still ongoing, your arrogance and sense of entitlement notwithstanding.

[LSK]

24. "sense of entitlement"????

Who was the chosen one for ALL OF LAST YEAR???

:rofl:

[Maven]

27. Then that would make Obama supporters hypocrites

since pretty much after Iowa.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

29. How so?

Explain.

[LSK]

30. umm except that the voters have chosen Obama?????

So is he "entitled" to his front runner spot that the voters have given to him????

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

25. Your sense of denial is funny and amusing.

I'm enjoying myself.

[Maven]

26. I'm enjoying myself too!

On to PA!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Are you really?

Well I guess I'll take you at your word.

[GalleryGod]

50. Hart-Mondale went to June 6th,1984. BUT it was the Super Delegates

that "padded" his final delegate lead of some 900 delegates. Before the Super Delegate Tsunami for Fritz...there was only a 150-200 vote differential.

[grantcart]

21. He only need 489 and every day it goes down

He has had a greater net gain in superdelegates in the last week than she will get from yesterday


His percent needed in remaining 65% and hers is 77%


Oh and by the way the 489 does not include the 30-40 he will pick up from the Texas primary. If he picks up 35 delegates he only needs 60% and each time he picks up another superdelegate that number goes down. In fact if the superdelegate trend continues he can easily win enough delegates to win the nomination

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

4. She has to win 60% of the remaining pledged delegates just to break even

The best she can hope for at this point is to narrow the gap.

[SoFlaJet]

14. Hillary doesn't operate on the same plane of existence

as normal humans nor apparently, do her supporters

[tritsofme]

5. Math means Obama can't win either.

Without superdelegates.

If Obama leads in pledged delegates and Clinton leads the popular vote, things begin to get interesting.

[Little Star]

6. Thank You! He can't get there either, period. Yep, the math.

[TheDoorbellRang]

10. Why can no one understand pledged delegates reflect the popular vote?

Where is this "Clinton leads the popular vote" coming from? Is there a site somewhere showing all the totals of who's voted? I'd really like to see these numbers.

[weezy2736]

16. It's all perfectly explainable...

The votes in the south don't count, Florida and Michigan count. And we commit political suicide when we nominate HRC in 4 months.

[tritsofme]

17. She does not lead right now.

This site shows popular vote totals excluding FL and MI, excluding MI, and including both MI and FL.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Obama's margin is not insurmountable.

[TheDoorbellRang]

35. Popular vote: Obama12,946,615 / Clinton 12,363,897

Obama leads by over half a million votes per real clear politics
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

N.B. Those results are excluding MI and FL; also do not include IA,NV,WA or ME as these were caucus states and did not provide totals.

[redqueen]

7. Backroom deals...

that seems to be her only hope.

[madinmaryland]

9. Here's the formula that shows how Hillary will win this thing...

Donald Rumsfeld is giving the President his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, three Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"

:evilgrin:

[LSK]

13. enough of these racist sexist smears

:hi:

[CitizenRob]

18. I'm going to have to remember that one.

[LSK]

19. shouldnt be hard, its posted in the lounge daily

:D

[EFerrari]

31. Your source is a rag. How desperate are you?

lol

[LSK]

33. the lounge is NOT a rag

Take that back!

:D

[EFerrari]

36. Oh, NOW you defend The Lounge! Convenient!

Play back is a b!tch.



:yoiks:

[LSK]

42. oh thats it! time to play dirty

Donald Rumsfeld is giving the President his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, three Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"

[EFerrari]

45. LOL! NahnahnahNAHNAH!

I cah't hear you!

:rofl:

[LSK]

46. .

:hi:

[Tarc]

23. Superdelegates

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

32. Clinton's tanking among the superdelegates.

Do you think she'll turn it around?

[Tarc]

38. Given Obama's amateur hour stumbles of the last week, they are surely reconsidering right now.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

39. Do you think so?

Superdelegates aren't stupid. They realize that Clinton's more trouble now that she was before yesterday.

[Tarc]

52. Did we watch the same election night last night?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

54. Yup.

And I haven't forgotten about the Texas caucus.

You?

[Tarc]

56. Yes, the O-Bots can always take refuge in the undemocractic caucus system

[boston bean]

34. How will O win. He needs SD's too. nt

[anigbrowl]

40. Indeed...but he's getting them..and is in front.

How quickly people forget that Hillary began the race with about a 150 superdelegate lead before a single vote was cast, giving her a ~7% head start in the race to 2025. Whatever happened to that?

[Megahurtz]

37. Kick THIS!

[laconicsax]

51. Why would you kick a book?

:shrug:

[Red State Prisoner]

41. She Can't Win

And I don't say this with the light hearted enthusiasm of an Obama supporter. She's my candidate and I voted for her last night. She won Texas but, from what I've been reading, he did much better in the caucus. The final results have, of course, not been released, but she's not going to take many more delegates out of here. I think it's time for her to thank her supporters, explain that the math doesn't add up, and just concede that this race is over. Dragging this out till the bitter end will serve no constructive purpose for the Democratic party. It's time to cut the shit and start planning for November.

[grantcart]

43. Obama only needs 46% of remaining delegates to get the nomination

[tritsofme]

55. Really, he will then have 2025 delegates?

nt

[AllexxisF1]

44. Photoshop can be such learning tool. All I need is some time and whallah.

Point Made.

[jefferson_dem]

47. Let it be known that NOT ONE Hillary supporter has offered a formula for how

Hillary goes to Denver with more pledged delegates in hand.

Anyone? Ignoring this reality won't make it go away. Math doesn't lie.

[Red State Prisoner]

48. I'm a Hillary Supporter

By a narrow margin I must add. That being said, there is no formula based in reality that works. When you win and still lose ground the writing's on the wall...it's over.

[GalleryGod]

49. The Fat Lady is warming her vocal chords back stage.

I agree. What a waste of Dem $$$'s in the next 8 weeks.

[Thepricebreaker]

53. You don't get it.. The numbers are being sexist! n/t

[XemaSab]

57. Why do you hate America?

:shrug: :cry:

[nomorewhopper]

58. she intends to steal the election