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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:26 PM
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CLINTON SUGGESTS SHARING DEMOCRATIC TICKET WITH OBAMA
Clinton hails 3 wins; Obama downplays losses
After big night, ex-first lady leaves door open to sharing ticket with rival

MSNBC staff and news service report
updated 9:15 a.m. CT, Wed., March. 5, 2008

WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton scored three victories in a night of revival that denied Barack Obama a ripe opportunity to drive her from the Democratic presidential race. Clarity came only to the Republican side, where John McCain made the nomination his own.

Meanwhile, Clinton, fresh off big primary victories, hinted Wednesday at the possibility of sharing the Democratic presidential ticket with Obama — with her at the top. Obama played down his losses, stressing that he still holds the lead in number of delegates.

In a night that failed to clarify the Democratic race, McCain clinched the Republican nomination. Clinton won primaries in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island, halting Obama's winning streak. Obama won in Vermont.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23480254/

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:28 PM
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1. Delegates aren't anything once the primary is over
Winning the big states is...however.
The clout actually belongs to Hillary.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:34 PM
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9. Winning the big states is...however.
Those same states will remain Democratic in the GE.

Its not like they'll suddenly vote for McCain if Hillary isnt the nominee.

:eyes:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:36 PM
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16. Keep thinking that
:hi:
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:38 PM
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19. Some Republican Obama support will vote for Mccain
because they are only trying to spoil the Dem primary.
Others will bail ,especially after Obama has been swiftboated and looking like an Iraqi double agent.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:39 PM
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21. So if he has the delegate lead
AND the popular vote lead, is THAT enough?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:02 PM
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40. If he has the little states
and she has the big states...you do the math.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:28 PM
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2. I bet she does.
A good compromise leaves everybody mad. :puke:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:35 PM
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11. It sounds like a strong ticket to me...
Compromise is the essence of politics
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:36 PM
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13. I think it's a loser. But I've been wrong before.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:50 PM
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30. for the record...
I thought either Dean or Clark had more potential to beat McCain but, as you said, "I've been wrong before."
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bleowheels Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:30 PM
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3. It's all part of her stragegy. Throw mud and slime Thursday through Tuesday...
and Wednesday she comes out and appears to be a uniter. She wants us to believe that she has the good of the Democratic Party on her mind. Maybe she does want Obama as a running mate. And if she does, it is only because she hopes to capture the African American and youth vote.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:34 PM
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8. Obamas been throwing mud for the entire campaign
"Hillary voted for IWR" is negative
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:35 PM
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12. How is stating a fact "mud-slinging"...??
?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:43 PM
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26. You know what Harry said don't ya?
I never gave anybody hell! I just told the truth and they thought it was hell.
Harry S. Truman

(snip)
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/harry_s_truman.html
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:22 PM
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38. good one nolabels! n/t
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:36 PM
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15. "Hillary voted for IWR" is FACT n/t
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:40 PM
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23. It's not exactly as though he made that up.
Not like the fake Canadian NAFTA garbage, or the Obama in Somali tribesman garb. You're comparing the two?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:10 PM
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34. Then she shouldn't have voted for it. Or she should admit, like Edwards did, that it was a mistake.
Conversely, if voting for the IWR was such a great idea, then she should be grateful to Obama for reminding everyone that she did it.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:39 PM
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22. she can unite...
Hillery is the best bet for unifying not only factions within the Democratic Party but also Democrats and Republicans in DC.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:41 PM
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24. Nah
she was asked a question. She answered it well.

A Clinton/Obama ticket would be fantastic.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:56 PM
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32. Of course, it is..and I wouldn't
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 03:29 PM by zidzi
want Obama on a ticket with her and I don't think he would either. Can you imagine how much fucking say he'd have? All Obama would get to do is bow to the b queen every morning.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:14 PM
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36. don't sweat the small stuff...
ANY Democrat in the White House is a step toward scaling back the Occupation of Iraq and passing National Health Insurance, among other laws that will serve the lower and middle classes in America.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:30 PM
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39. Not small but I'm on an entirely
different page than you are. Fuck hilary lying warpimp clinton.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:30 PM
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4. Wait! Who's Winning with the Most Delegates?
Just logged on...
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:32 PM
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5. she's thinking that she is inevitable again...big trouble ahead.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:42 PM
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25. how so?
She was asked a direct question. She answered it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:32 PM
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6. By the time she's done with all of her Baiting........
she'll have 10 Veeps on the ticket running with her. :eyes:

The bottomline is that she needs Obama more than Obama needs her.

Add to that, her presumptioness, and you get the pic.

Obama needs to stay as far from that ticket as possible....otherwise, he'll get a Bill Clinton elbow in his eye.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:32 PM
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7. Losing Candidates Often Speak About "Dream Tickets"
Obviously, Clinton has the weaker hand or she would never pull out a card like this. I don't even chalk it up to her hug-punch-hug-punch campaigning. It is just a signal that she recognizes the position she is in.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:34 PM
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10. The candidate with the most delegates gets to be prez...
...end of story...
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:44 PM
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27. Wrong. link
http://tinyurl.com/2vnxn8



There is no rule in the politics of Democratic Party conventions that says that the contender with the largest number of pledged delegates short of the total required for nomination should automatically, by dint of that achievement, be handed the party's designation. This argument is now being put forth by Senator Obama's campaign.

Such a contention is belied by the modern-day history of Democratic conventions. In 1912, the Democratic Speaker of the House of Representatives, Champ Clark, went to the Baltimore convention with the largest number of delegates, around 440, Woodrow Wilson was second with 324, trailed by a few others -- with two thirds of the convention vote required for nomination. Champ Clark was not then allowed to proclaim himself victorious simply because he led the pack. Rather the proceedings went through almost 50 ballots over a week's period that, after much maneuvering, resulted in Wilson accumulating enough delegates to secure the nomination.

In 1932, Franklin Roosevelt arrived at the Democratic Convention this time with the most delegates -- having won them through some primaries and some Democratic state organizations -- but still short of the requisite two-thirds majority. Despite this lead, the party did not hand him the nomination. He had to proceed through four ballots to achieve it.

--snip--

Now today some in the Obama campaign and in the media are dismissing the importance of Hillary Clinton's victories in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island as unimportant. For they argue that, by any careful analysis of the delegate selection process under the present Democratic Party proportional representation system, whatever delegate totals Senator Clinton wins through the end of this year's primary season, will not be able to overcome Senator Obama's current unsurpassable lead over Senator Clinton and therefore Obama will deserve the support of the so-called "super delegates" and should gain the nomination. But that is not how it works as we have seen in past Democratic conventions. A lead in pledged delegates is not enough. You still have to convince your party that you are the best nominee. That is what the next stage of this election is all about.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:46 PM
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28. Wrong. Your over-priced Jabba the Hut consultant from the BEGINNING said it was all about the...
..delegates...funny how the campaign spin now says the opposite...

Just keep moving the goalposts...:eyes:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:06 PM
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42. The over-priced Jabba the Hut needs to brush up on his history and so do you.
:)
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:36 PM
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14. Hillary would drag down an Obama ticket
This is a way bad idea.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:37 PM
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17. Last time I checked, Obama had the most delegates.
Obama doesn't need Hillary's old and new scandal-ridden baggage in the general election.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:37 PM
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18. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit
:puke:
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blocker Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:38 PM
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20. No way, she's insulted him enough
The way she has destroyed him, no way he's gonna run on her ticket, but the sad thing is, she really really needs him, she's detested by half the country already, and she is losing democrats like myself when she insults her fellow democrats!
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Nine Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:47 PM
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29. I've long thought Clinton/Obama would be a dream ticket.
It's one of the reasons I chose Hillary over Obama. I thought a Clinton/Obama ticket would be far stronger than an Obama/Clinton one.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:51 PM
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31. She's delusional.
Needs to see a shrink.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:05 PM
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33. No. She's everything I want dumped
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 03:29 PM by Catherina
The only reason I'm involved in this cycle is to help Obama break the establishment machine.

I won't be voting for the machine just because they put Obama in second place. He's a little more than a pretty speech to be used that shamelessly.

It's Obama for President or bust.

Frankly, I don't want Clinton as VP or anywhere near the cabinet. Let the DLC and its supporters hold their nose for a change because I'm done holding mine and done seeing the AA vote get taken for granted.

I'm in this for a clean break.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:12 PM
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35. A little audacious, hmm?
Obama is still ahead significantly, she only gained a few delegates. Most of the rest of the states remaining should only increase his lead. Why in the blue fuck would he run under her? He will be the nom, and someone NOT named Hillary will be the VP.
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:18 PM
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37. No thanks Hillary - you can keep it...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:05 PM
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41. No
she didn't suggest it. She was asked about it and she gave the right answer.
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