POLL FOR OBAMA SUPPORTERS ONLY

[RoadRage]

Poll question: POLL FOR OBAMA SUPPORTERS ONLY

Alright.. i'm still 95% sure that our guy is going to pull this out, but I do give Clinton a 5% chance of using her backroom dealings and political favors, blackmail & bullying tactics a shot at stealing this.

So, vote below.. would you vote for Clinton:

(Edited to add: please kick to keep this up for a while to get some votes)

[LulaMay]

1. Why can't I vote? You all like open primaries so much.

[RoadRage]

2. Thanks for the kick.. and i'm sure you voted anyway! NT

[JoFerret]

56. projection?

bunch of babies. get over yourselves.

he outspent her and he lost.
this may change.
he is a great candidate.
if he wants to be he will be president of the USA. Maybe not in 2009.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

3. actually it's Rush who likes open primaries so much.

[Hepburn]

84. And who supports Hillary.

That should give all Democrats a MAJOR clue, IMO. Tweety and Scarborough seem to swoon over her, too.

[pampango]

109. I imagine that state parties that chose to have open primaries did so long before

Obama was a factor.

I remember at the time of the California primary, where ours was open and the Repubs was closed, it was discussed that the Repubs were considering going to an open primary, because studies showed that people that vote in one party's primary tend to vote for that party in the GE. Excluding independents and cross-overs by making the primary closed may make the primary vote "purer", but it may not help in the GE.

Open and closed primaries have different strengths and weaknesses. The state parties can choose either. I assume that a candidate considering a presidential bid looks at the primary and caucus landscape and decides what strategy to follow partially based on the distribution of caucuses and open vs closed primaries. You may wish that there was more of one and less of another (and that may change for the next election cycle), but it is what it is for now from the candidate's perspective.

[nolabels]

4. The one with most delegates WILL win.

What happens after that only pandemonium would know. The threatening of taking your ball home so no one can play should not be in a conversation of adults.

[RoadRage]

6. It's not about taking your ball and going home..

If someone stole your ball and took it away from you - you go home empty handed, and the same bratty kid calls you the next day and asks you to come out and play with him and see his new ball.

That's the scenario here.. if she wins the primary fair & square, I vote for her. If she gets it through back-room dealings and bullying - I will not.

[nolabels]

17. Ha, ha, that happened to me a lot of times when i was kid

Really i just trying point out the reality of how this crappy thing is structured. The establishment has established things so they will mostly always have the upper hand in the end.

To me election to me is getting interesting. The little states that are often ignored by largess of the democratic party is exacting their payback. They matter again and they know it.

That chink in the armor that republicans almost always try exploit in the general is now in play in the democratic party.


The prognosticators are often screaming the sky is falling but in fact it is really just starting to open up.

[ellenfl]

5. 19 people will not vote for her no matter what?

this does not bode well for getting a dem prez. we better get lots of dem reps and senators then.

ellen fl

[pbca]

7. No chance, kick n/t

[ORDem]

106. Nope, not after all her lies and slime. She has totally lost my respect. n/t

:kick:

[ellenfl]

123. then i guess we can kiss the white house goodbye.

we need a blowout to overcome the repug machine and we will not get it if others take your attitude. i am NOT a hillary fan, by any means, but this attitude could sound our death knell.

ellen fl

[ctaylors6]

8. I'd be curious if poll asked about if she picked Obama as VP, with poll assumptions otherwise same

[ORDem]

107. Wouldn't matter to me. I don't want the Clintons within 10 miles of the WH. n/t

[dbonds]

9. Be careful.

Poll votes are not secret to TPTB.

[mmonk]

32. But they are out of anger. If anyone takes them serious at this

particular juncture fresh after the attacks and yesterday's primaries and the vitroil here, they need their head examined.

[Buzz Clik]

62. No shit. I lied in my vote.

I suspect I have a lifetime ban in my future. I'm not ready for it yet.

[FrenchieCat]

10. Obama will win the nomination....although

The media fucked us, like they always do:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-jenkins/clinton-and-the-vast-medi_b_89465.html

Clinton winning Dems in Big Blue States isn't a compelling argument, whatsoever, unless one is a fool.

2 or 3 Supreme Court justices may be replaced, and if you believe that middle aged White women will give up their reproductive rights and decide not to vote for the Democrat at top of the ballot if it is not Hillary is lunacy. They are not going to cut off their nose to spite their face.

Also understand; there is a difference between the Obama voters and the Clinton voters.

Black folks are at the bottom of the ladder anyways, as they always are. Many of them believe that they can weather the storm, like they always have. They now realize that their vote doesn't count very much to Hillary Clinton, as she has already stated that they do not represent an "important" voting bloc to her. In essence, they pretty much have the least to lose of all of the voters.

Same with young and new voters, who are known for being apathetic. I don't think that Clinton is compelling enough to get them out to the polls in drove. Barack's movement is not quite as transferable as one would like to think.

Same goes for the Independent voters. They may not come out for Hillary....as they may choose McCain or simply stay home.

In reference to the Hispanic voters, please know that McCain holds basically the same stance on immigration as does both Hillary and Barack.....to a great extent. Out of all of the voters, they are the one least likely to be relied upon as a large voting block, as they showed in 2000 and 2004.

Note that Obama can easily put someone on the ticket that could garnet the Hispanic vote, and it wouldn't have to be Hillary Clinton.

Hillary cannot say the same in attempting to capture Obama's voters, other than to tell us that racists won't vote for Obama. however, there is a similar number of men that won't vote for Hillary because she is a woman...as well, those who simply will select McCain over her cause they can.


and in terms of being attacked and how well it worked; it will now be her turn....since she cried and cried about the media dogging out Obama. The press will have to agree, because there is so much there there that needs airing before the General Election......just to make her a "better" candidate; a line that you hear all of the time about Obama and the need to "toughen" him up for the GE.

What You Won't Find in the Clinton Museum & Library: http://prorev.com/missingclinton.htm

Clinton's '35 years of change' omits most of her career: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/26377.html

How Hillary Clinton Betrayed the Children's Defense Fund for Political Gain: http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/034

The New Clinton scandals that haven't been explored to date
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=076fd56f-4aca-4683-a9d1-3c55d748946e&k=60222

Rezko has a tie with one of Clinton's biggest donors.
The inhouse atty. of a corporation headed by Clinton's big ($180,000) donor, IPA, is identified as "Individual H" in the Illnois criminal indictment of Rezko. This atty. is also a Clinton donor. Here's the link & the info
www.reversespin.com/?m=200709

More on Rezko and the Clintons
www.nytimes.com/2006/05/07/nyregion/07company.html

[Buzz Clik]

66. great post.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. Wow. Already 42 Selfish Children Huh?

How sad.

[NMMatt]

15. No 36 people willing to stand on principle and oppose the corrupt scumbags that are the Clintons

If it means four more years of Republicans to rid our party of the Clinton scum, that's a price I'm willing to pay. I will never vote for Rovian tatics.

[Rainbowreflect]

16. You are completely wrong!

If you can say that after the last 7 years then you have either not been paying attention or you are an idiot.

[NMMatt]

19. I will not vote for the lesser of two evils

Doing so only purpetuates it. Throughout our history, when people stood on principle, changes happened. It is more important to stand on principle than to win a single election.

[Rainbowreflect]

24. Do you honestly believe that Clinton would be no better than

McCain: on getting us out of Iraq? Getting health care to more people at a better price? On judges for the supreme court?

[NMMatt]

29. Perhaps not, but those aren't the most important issues for me -nt

[Yes We Did]

67. I think Hillary is the perfect repuke scapegoat.

She can catch hell when bush's house of cards comes crashing down. That's why they got McCain as their candidate, and that's why they want clinton.

They can blame it all on her, and take another crack at it in 4 years.

Scares the hell out of me.

[donheld]

21. So you'd rather the supreme court go even further to the right

just because you didn't get your way during the primary? You'd rather another 100 years war because you didn't get your way? how utterly stupid.

[NMMatt]

28. It is not about me or Obama

It is about the good of our country. If we continue to elect politicians that use fear-mongering and racist tactics, we will keep getting the same results. If our party uses the same tactics, we only make the problem worse. McCain in my view is preferable to Clinton in this regard.

For me this is the single most important issue in this election.

[donheld]

33. If you think McCain picking 3 supreme court nominees

is going to be better for "the good of our country" then you are plum full of shit. If this happens you can guarantee they will be picking our president for many many years.

[RoadRage]

40. If Hillary is really concerned about 3 Supreme Court Nominees..

She will either win this race the legitimate way, or bow out gracefully. Staying in and stealing it means she cares less about winning a General Election and is giving these nominees to McCain herself.

I'd blame her in this case is she tries the backdoor route, not anyone who chooses to peacefully vote against her tactics.

[City Lights]

75. Bingo!

:yourock:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

22. That's Nothing But Pathetically Selfish And Narrow Minded Bullshit.

Grow up.

[NMMatt]

27. Support the same subtle racist attacks that Rove uses?

Never. Like I said, some things are more important than winning single elections. Even if Obama were to support Clinton or end up on the ticket I would not vote for the Clintons.

[Buzz Clik]

63. I, too, have made not of the Rove influence in the campaign.

That was the tipping point for me.

Her "strongly negative" campaign of late has pushed me further away. I'm very nearly to the "no way" point with Hillary.

[krabigirl]

90. Wow, the world will thank you for that,

:sarcasm:

Yuck.

[Bluerthanblue]

36. go away OMC- you aren't an Obama supporter-

you have no reason to be here.


Much as it pains me to say this- and to feel it, your girl has done her job well.


peace~

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

38. ROFL!!!!!!!!

:rofl:

[Buzz Clik]

64. I do not give Hillary credit for "doing her job well."

She has stopped the bleeding in her own campaign, but the cost will be enormous. She has damaged herself and Obama.

[RoadRage]

116. That numbers up to 111 now...

You can call it sad.. or look at it for what it really is. A lot of people are not interested in supporting Clinton with the way she's run this mud slinging campaign.

I will vote for her if she has the most delegates.. but not if she squeaks in with favors to the Super Delegates. I know you're a big fan of Clinton, but Clinton supporters need to realize there will be a serious cost to her "winning" the nomination this way. I'm sure that this board is a bit more zealous then the general public - but the truth is.. probably 30 - 40% won't support her if that is how she gets in, and that's a big number. Remember.. a lot of people (like it or not) came out of the woodwork to vote for Obama that have never voted before.. they will have no problem going back into the woodwork in November.

Now, i'm sure Clinton supporters could/would do the same thing if Obama wins - but the difference is that he will most likely have the delegates, and that takes away a big argument.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Look, the rules are the rules, and the rules include superdelegates.

I've suspected for a while that HRC might eke it out in the end by pulling party pooh-bah strings. I wouldn't like it, It would be an extremely unwise way to head into the general election, but it might happen, and it's based upon the same Party rules that mean the FL and MI primaries don't count.

(I think if she starts going to extreme lengths to argue that the rules shouldn't apply in regards to the above situations, but the rules re: superdelegates are dandy, that's even worse)

I also think if she goes that route she knows she HAS to put Obama on the ticket, which is why she made the statement she did on MSNBC. Whether Obama will take the #2 slot is something else.

But when all is said and done, I will support our nominee. I hope we can have a clean win.

[RoadRage]

79. There would be no reason for Obama to take a 2nd spot VP position..

and I say 2nd Spot - because it would be behind Bill Clinton.

He leads in delegates.. he's won more states.. he's won more of the popular vote.

He takes the VP position as a patsy.. anything that goes wrong can be rolled onto him.. anything that goes right is because of the Clinton's. It's a lose/lose situation, and I hope he's smart enough to run like hell.

I'm not interested in voting for Obama for VP.. i'm up for voting for him for president.

[Warren DeMontague]

103. I'm talking about reality, here. This is one potential scenario.

I'd prefer the nominee be Obama, too. But come november, it may not be his name at the top of the ticket.

It may not. If the situation stands at the end of the process as it does now- more delegates, more popular vote, etc. and HRC ends up taking the nomination via superdelegates, she's going to be in a position where she needs to do something, and putting Obama on the ticket is about the only option available to her IMHO.

Like I said; whether he takes that offer is another matter entirely.

[cboy4]

13. "...backroom dealings and political favors, blackmail

& bullying tactics."

Hillary should be ashamed of herself for stealing your side's game plan.

You sue her RoadRage!!111!@

[RoadRage]

20. You are kidding, right? I mean -

most Clinton supporters will even admit that Hillary's has played far more dirty the Obama. They may not like him for various reasons, but him being "dirty" is not one of them. But, nice spin on that... :eyes:

[NMMNG]

35. Heh heh

And how many of the people who insisted on this poll that they'd never vote for HRC were previously calling those of us who wouldn't vote for Obama all sorts of hideous names? :shrug:

Funny how things are so different when it's them.

[Critters2]

14. 32 bad sports. Very telling. nt

[donheld]

18. Damn, I didn't know so many morans were here

Ready to refuse to vote for a Democrat should she get the nomination.

[Bryan]

23. I'll vote for her if she becomes the nominee

It's too important not to, and she'd be an adequate President.

[Blu Dahlia]

25. I voted only if she has more delegates, but I really can't say for sure

If she pulls a bunch of dirty tricks, then hell no.

[cottonseed]

26. I'll eat a crap sandwich first, then pull the lever for the Dem candidate.

As much as I'd hate to reward her campaign, I would do it. If history is any indicator though, my good faith vote may actually put a big hurt on our Senators and Congressman come 2012.

[Lisa0825]

72. Same here.

In the end, I will vote for her. But if she pulled bullshit dirty tricks to get it, I won't be able to do more (as in volunteer, or donate). If I have any respect for the way she (hypothetically) wins, I will support her with more than just a vote, but not if my heart isn't in it.

[RoadRage]

30. Since it's my poll.. i'll reveal my vote:

If she wins the delegates fair & square - she has my vote. It won't be a happy vote, but i'll do it. But, if she strong-arms the Super Delegates into over-riding the will of the people and the vote of the regular delegates - then I will NOT vote for her. Stealing an election is one of the reasons that ALL of us dispise Bush. How Hypocritical for us to be OK with her doing it, but hate Bush for the same thing?

[JuniperLea]

43. You honestly think it possible that she could steal an election?

Really?

[RoadRage]

48. By getting enough Super Delegates

in her pocket because of the influence, blackmail, etc. that the Clintons have accumulated over the past 20+ years.. i wouldn't put it past her.

And by doing that, I would call it "stealing".

[JuniperLea]

57. Influence = Stealing????

Blackmail??? If you are going to say she is or has been blackmailing someone, you had better put up some linkie-poos!

[RoadRage]

59. She hasn't at all..

The Super Delegates haven't decided anything. That was the point of my poll - IF Hillary wins fair & square, then I vote for her. If she influences (and I consider this stealing) the super delegates to vote against the WILL OF THE PEOPLE, then I will NOT vote for her.

Clinton & co have been in Washington for 30 years.. Obama has been there for 4 - not exactly the same in terms of negotiating "friends" and using favors to garner Super Delegate votes.

[MadBadger]

31. I'll vote for her. Though if Florida and Michigan are seated as they are and Hillary wins that way..

then I dont know what I'll do.

[Johnny Potpie]

34. Vote for her

And the war continues. Look, I originally wanted D. Kucinich to be President. And still do. But the reality is, Obama is the only one with a shot to win, and he's committed to ending the war. I cannot in good conscience vote for anybody who supported this mess. And Hillary seems proud of her vote. Nope, I won't vote for her. I'll cut my losses, keep my good conscience, and work for Dennis Kucinich next time around. And another reason I refuse to support her is my own disenfranchisement. I voted for Obama, and he will most likely win most of the delegates fair and square. If Hillary gets the nod through some backroom dealings, then forget it. What then? Does our vote even count? Do the people really even matter to Hillary? Or is just win at any cost? I feel sick....

[RoadRage]

37. Alright.. even I'M somewhat surprised that 48% won't vote for her no matter what..

I realize that DU is not a microism of the General Public... but if even 1/3 of Obama supporters currently won't vote for her no matter what.. and another 1/3 won't if she "steals" the nomination - that DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR A CLINTON VICTORY IN NOVEMBER.

"cheaters never win".. seems to be the theme here.

[Bluerthanblue]

39. sorry, I can't even vote in this poll right now- I heard Ickkie or what

ever the hell the assholes name is from Hillary's command post on NPR this afternoon, saying that no delegates- be they 'super' or elected ones are bound by any rules to vote in any way- He basicly said that whatever deals Hillary cooks up, can go ahead without ANY legal re-course as per rules changed in 1980.

And I'm beside myself.

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[RoadRage]

41. That's sort of the "point" of my poll though..

the recourse won't need to be legal.. it will be swift justice from the half of the democratic party that truely does dispise Rovian tactics, and really is interested in cleaning up these types of politics.

On principal (as we see in this poll) - most won't vote for her in that situation, which of course helps the republicans. As much as i HATE their views, they're very smart about who they nominate and how they join back together quickly. At least this year. :eyes:

:)

[JuniperLea]

42. So 65 of you would rather see McCain than HRC?

Egads... that is beyond stupidity.

[LeftCoast]

44. I'd like to direct those 65 to this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4873018

[taught_me_patience]

49. Looks like Hillary supporters have "HILLED"

the poll.

[taught_me_patience]

50. I believe Hllary supporters have tainted this poll

let's open it up and see who is answering. They are certainly writing a lot in this thread!

[nonconformist]

45. I'm reminded of the massive amounts of loyalty oath threads that Obama supporters

made here on DU in the last few weeks, insulting and yelling at Hillary supporters who said they wouldn't vote for Obama (or didn't know yet what they would do) and saying they weren't true Democrats.

Now the tide has turned, and we see true colors come out.

[Malikshah]

47. Amazing how short some people's memories are.

It goes beyond embarrassing.

[JuniperLea]

58. Funny how that happens, eh?

What's the line about dishing it out and taking it? Glass houses, etc.

[Yes We Did]

70. Please... You are being hoisted by your own petard.

It's been going back and forth for the past 4-5 months like that.

You guys are not better on this.

[Malikshah]

46. What's next-- separate forums? Can anyone see how flaming this is?

Geez.

[lmbradford]

51. I just can't vote for her......

I am a feminist. Hell, I spent two entire years of my life writing my thesis over feminist issues and believe me it KILLS ME that I won't be voting for HRC for president. There are simply too many other things about her and her tactics that leaves my moral compass in a tail spin. She is unscrupulous and deceiving and just plain nasty. Win at all costs is not the name of the game. Winning because you aught to is. I refuse to hold my nose for one more candidate. I am to the point of "what have you done for ME lately?" I will vote FOR a candidate from now on because "the lesser of two evils" thing has not proven to my benefit. I REFUSE TO DO IT AGAIN! This time it will be someone else sacrificing and not me. BTW, this is exactly why the Dems always have such shitty candidates......they force the good ones out in favor of the MACHINE type candidates and then lose..........I won't be contributing to the machine ever again.

I am fed up.

[Hepburn]

87. I hear ya....

....:hug:...and feel the same way.

[Bongo Prophet]

52. Some people like to game polls to cause trouble. Keep that in mind.

Some are infiltrators, and some are just assholes.

Some folks are SELF-ADMITTED assholes who like to
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
because of some weird reason or another.


Edit to add: I will vote for the Dem nominee, but not in these polls.

[Scurrilous]

55. Yep.

These polls are worthless.

[pbca]

53. kick n/t

[JoFerret]

54. Shocking results. Disgraceful. Pathetic.

Enjoy more republicans folks but why inflict McCain on the nation? We have had enough.
Both Obama and Clinton will represent a HUGE change in Washington and make a strong start on the work that needs to be done.

[BigDDem]

60. Present

[Milo_Bloom]

61. She voted for the war, thus, NO WAY.

[BigDDem]

65. He votes to continue the war..

Okie dokie!

[Yes We Did]

68. And had it not been started, he wouldn't have to, would he?

[BigDDem]

69. FYI

he doesnt "have to" now.
He can vote no. (Not "present" but no)

[Milo_Bloom]

78. What do you THINK voting no will accomplish?

[BigDDem]

81. See #80

[Milo_Bloom]

83. Answer the question... What do you THINK would happen?

[BigDDem]

96. I have no idea, I dont have a crystal ball

like some of the folks around here.

[Milo_Bloom]

122. So you know nothing about how government works... Okay...

At least you admit it.

[RoadRage]

73. He votes to not get more soldiers killed by funding food, armour & weapons..

that's a bit different.

[Milo_Bloom]

77. So?

I never understand this line of reasoning... it seems to come from a basic misunderstanding of how government works.

You do realize, of course, that if he voted against funding, it wouldn't end the war... right? It would just cause bush to divert funds, weakening BOTH other parts of our infrastructure and the troops, thus causing more needless death than necessary.

[BigDDem]

80. So, the Democrats who vote against funding

are in the wrong?
Is that correct?

[Milo_Bloom]

82. Yes and no

They may be supporting one funding bill and voting against another.

Ultimately, if they are simply voting down funding, the are wrong, because it won't have the result they desire... However, they likely know this and offer their votes symbolically.

[BigDDem]

97. "Ultimately, if they are simply voting down funding, the are wrong"

Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken but I believe Senator Kennedy votes no on funding. Is he wrong?
You must be outraged that Obama has embraced him....?

[Milo_Bloom]

124. You are mistaken.

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?cs_id=V3251&can_id=53305
http://www.votesmart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?cs_id=12681&can_id=53305

Kennedy HAS voted for funding.

[Amaya]

71. I will support the democratic nominee

Yes, I prefer Obama-


so does my son :)

[RoadRage]

74. now that is one cute little guy! :) I love ObamaBabies!

[LeftCoast]

76. This poll seems to indicate that it is Obama supporters who want to divide the party.

[RoadRage]

112. Nope.. it indicates that if Hillary chooses to "win" the nomination this way

SHE will be the one responsible for dividing the party. I will not accept responsibility for "dividing" the party because I believe it ethics, playing fairly and choose not to support a candidate who is worse the Bush on this side of the political scumminess line (not issues - but campaign strategy).

Nope.. i'm sorry, it won't be "our" fault.. if 50% of voters don't vote because she decided to "win" this way, she can take the responsibility herself.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

85. No matter.

But if she doesn't have the PD lead I'll be pissed.

[DemGa]

86. Not surprising -- Obama ran on "Hillary-hate"

[Buzz Clik]

92. This is correct. He handed out buttons and has a huge "I Hate Hillary" banner.

Good call.

[DemGa]

93. The Obama fraud is far too slick for that!

He just slyly pointed out Hillary's "negatives"; painted her as "divisive and polarizing."--perceptions created by right-wing attacks.

Democrats won't forget.

[Buzz Clik]

94. I believe it was Pat Buchanan who called Hillary polarizing, not Obama.

Unless you have a quote...

And I know what you mean -- Hillary would never ever ever attack Obama is a GOP-fashioned barrage. No drumming up old fears about Muslims and terrorist attacks. No negative comparisons to, say, McCain in which she say Obama is inferior to the GOP nominee.

Nah. She's upright and too wonderful to stoop to that.

[DemGa]

95. Then Buchanan and Obama share talking points

"Well, I think there's some history there, not all of Sen. Clinton's making," Obama told the program's host, Bob Schieffer. "But I don't think there's any doubt that the Republicans consider her a polarizing figure."

[Buzz Clik]

100. Obama's comment is not a matter of his opinion

There is no question that Hillary is a flashpoint for Republicans.

[DemGa]

101. A right-wing slander generated perception

Obama uses the weapons of the opposition on a fellow Democrat -- pure treachery.

[RoadRage]

113. Ohh.. right.. and "SHAME ON YOUR BARACK OBAMA" Clinton ran on

Hillary Love... and she's just misunderstood. :eyes:

And, further more - if the rolls were reversed, and it appeared as the only way for Obama to win the nomination was to over ride the vote of the people and the allocated delegats - you'd be first in line to cast a vote for him anyway? I seriously doubt it.. you'd be in the exact same boat.

At least have the decency to admit to those of us who support Obama that if that scenario were to occur, it would be entirely logical to be pissed, and stay home.

[Barack_America]

88. I can't say yet.

Honestly. It all depends on how nasty this gets.

[krabigirl]

89. Wow, so 92 people would rather have McCain?

I don't care for Obama, but you bet I'll be voting for him over McLame come Nov if he is the nominee!

[Hepburn]

91. That should tell the Hillary supporters something about her chances, right? n/t

[David Zephyr]

98. I didn't vote because she will not be the nominee. She can't pull it off.

All that Mark Penn can do at this point is to keep on the gravy train of sucking millions of her campaign funds into his fat little pockets and destroy the Democratic Party.

The super delegates will not give her a backroom deal no matter how much her campaign screams and carries on when the math tells them the public selected Obama.

[RoadRage]

114. God.. i sure hope you're right..

Hillary just reminds me of a Zombie movie.. as soon as you think she's dead.. she springs back to live to cause more trouble. After Iowa.. after New Hampshire.. Super Tuesday... now last week after TX & OH... ughghgh! I fear as soon as I think.. nope.. no way can she win the nomination.. the math doesn't work.. a math zombie (ie Super Delegates) will show up to help her.

But, I sure hope you're right!

[Dark]

99. As long as she doesn't steal the nomination, I'll vote for her.

n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

102. If Obama goes to the convention with the most delegates ...

there is no way he can come away from it without at least being the VP candidate. He's on the ticket right now no matter what. The only question is, is he the top or the bottom.

[RoadRage]

115. Right.. but he goes in with THE MOST DELEGATES.. and comes out as a VP??

That would piss me off! I would have a tough time voting for that too! He has the most delegates, and presumably still the popular vote, but he ends up taking a VP spot (so he can get crapped on by the Clintons for 4 - 8 years and REALLY have the hope beaten out of him).

I don't know if i'd vote for that - really. I like him.. and I want him to say "him".. not become a Clinton crapping ground for anything that goes wrong in the administration. Just my opinion..

[npincus]

104. Hard one. But after 8 years of CHIMP-HELL, will not assist a Repub

by abstaining.

Will vote D no matter what.

[Orsino]

105. "No matter how" is a little too vague, but I certainly plan to vote for the nominee. n/t

[damonm]

108. Held my nose and did #3, because

McCain would be an unmitigated disaster.

[mculator]

110. It shows that Hillary haters outnumber BO supporting DEMS. Dream ticket supporters want this exposed

But republicans AND the media HATE the idea.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4927930

[rollin74]

111. kick

[Bucky]

117. My heart may not be in it, but I could never live with myself if I didn't vote Democratic

I really don't care too much about abortion rights. It doesn't affect me at all and frankly I find abortion to be a tragedy. But it's wrong to let the government control people's bodies--and the "pro-life" movement is really a big part of the right wing's reactionary war on women. If the Democratic nominee loses, we will see Roe overturned in the next 10 years. I must show up and vote no matter what.

I'm not Arabic and I'm not even slightly swarthy--flying in an airplane is never a problem for me; I never get singled out. No one's bugging my phone. I have no real secrets to hide. And yet, if the Democratic nominee loses, the Republican Justice Department will continue its war on the Bill of Rights and our country will continue its drift toward a police state. I must show up and vote no matter what.

I'm a teacher with a secure salary, barely acceptable health coverage, and a more or less safe pension to protect me when I'm a dirty old man. I don't need pension protection or improved health care. But Republican economic policies are slowing destroying the middle class and putting at risk all the things that our parents' generation fought to put into place to make this a safe, strong, and prosperous country. If the Democratic nominee loses, jobs will migrate overseas, pensions will by looted by heartless corporations, the middle class will evaporate, the budget will sink deeper into the red, and employers will pursue their long term goals of emasculating labor unions. I must show up and vote no matter what.

I want Obama to be our nominee, but I must show up and vote no matter what.

[krispos42]

118. All capitals... must be important...

:-)

[krispos42]

119. All capitals... must be important

:-)

[Bright Eyes]

120. If she wins solely on those superdelegates,

I won't be voting in November. I won't reward Undemocratic behavior.

Otherwise, I'll be voting against McCain.

[woolldog]

121. Under no circumstances will I vote for her.

It's a matter of principle to me. Even if I could get over all my other problems with her (the dynastic issue, the character problems), which I probably could in time, I can't support a candidate who has run a bigoted, race-baiting campaign. I just can't.