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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:11 PM
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I Always Thought The Scared White Women
the pollsters talked about in 2004 were mostly Republican!

I thought women in the in the democratic party were smarter and stronger than to fall for those scary "we're all gonna die, unless I'm the President" ads.

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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:12 PM
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1. National security is very important, maybe not to you but to the marjority of Americans it is.
Kumbaya, ain't on my playlist.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:15 PM
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3. If That Were True
how do you explain the 2004 election!

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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:15 PM
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4. You mean Bush's reelection or Kerry having the election "stolen"?
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:20 PM
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12. Well For Arguments Sake
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 04:22 PM by otohara
he did win the popular vote in 04! Which means more people than not bought into his shit!

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:16 PM
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6. I know!
Bush's wolf ads were not fear mongering, they were just reminding us that we have enemies out there and that Kerry doesn't know how to fight them. His policies would've made our country weaker blah blahj bakhfsd.
:sarcasm:

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:17 PM
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7. "national security" is about #89 on my list
nt
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:18 PM
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8. It's important to send other kids to War?
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 04:20 PM by cottonseed
It's not important enough to pay more taxes, it's not important enough trade in their SUVs, it's not important enough to stop tuning in to the Oxygen network and Lifetime to actually do something to stop this war. They don't even know what National Security is. If they did, they wouldn't be voting for the Clintons and the Washington elite who's doing more to damage our national security than any enemy could ever do.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:18 PM
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9. National security? You mean, defending ourselves against
the terrorists in the White House?

I love the right wing cr@p that gets posted here.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:55 PM
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15. LOL
You're 3 out 4 alright. :hi:

NGU.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:10 PM
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18. Shhhhhhhhhh! I'm about to sneak up on my gardener.
He has a leafblower and must have an al Qaida laptop in his truck. I'm going to hum "Kumbaya" so he doesn't notice. Or, "Jalisco". Or, maybe Mozart's Requiem Mass in D Minor.

You can't be too careful after

nine eleven.





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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:51 PM
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31. LOL
Anybody ever tell you you look like Janet Leigh?

NGU.


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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:18 PM
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10. oh, come on...
:eyes:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:59 PM
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16. Yeah gotta keep us safe from the
Commies, I mean the drugs.. oops sorry I meant Rock & Roll.. oh wait.. comic books? Harry Potter? D&D? Libyans? Iran? Iraq? China? North Korea? Russia? Oh wait I got it, TERRORISTS. The latest in the boogeyman of the month club.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:18 PM
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19. You forgot Sesame Street.
Which the pinkos are calling "Plaza Sesamo". How do you like that for a fifth column?! Where do they get off, speaking that way before we spoke this way? Socialists never learn!

And look at this: two guys LIVED TOGETHER just to put our nation in peril with their debauchery and anti-American happiness !!!!!!!!!!!!111

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:01 PM
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33. One of the biggest national security threats we have is when
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 07:02 PM by Skidmore
our industrial base was sold out and America was auctioned off to the highest bidder. We are no longer self sufficient but a nation of customer service providers. I don't worry about terrorists that the ad conjures--I worry about the economic terrorists we have in elected office and corporate boardrooms.
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FedoraLV Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:18 PM
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34. Maybe it should be
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 07:19 PM by FedoraLV
"The mocking of this song popularized by the Civil Rights Movement strips it of its place in history and ignores the power of the Civil Rights Movement. That's the movement that popularized it. That's the movement that made it a nationally known song by all people.

The right-wing demonized it in real time, so it's no surprise they continue to. That the so-called left joins in is shameful ....

We'll just note "Kumbaya" has a glorious history, that it spoke for and to the struggle for a world where racism didn't exist ....

One of the songs of the Civil Rights Movement has been turned into a punchline and there's no excuse for the left to assist in that. There's no excuse ... (for) "Kumbaya" to be used derisively ...."

source: http://thirdestatesundayreview.blogspot.com/2008/01/editorial-kumbaya.html

-FedoraLV
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:23 PM
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35. Nah
If that were true, Biden, Dodd, or Richardson would be our nominee; and Rudy would have walked away with it on the Republican side.
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ExFreeper4Obama Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:14 PM
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2. They are women who are easily manipulated
The Republicans call them "Security Moms." I call them scared little sheep.

:scared:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:47 PM
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14. Looks like the men were also "easily manipulated" by looking at the returns from last night.
Security Dads, too.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:01 PM
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17. Ohioans aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, that's for damn sure.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:21 PM
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21. I beg your pardon? I think I missed you're sarcasm smilie...
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:15 PM
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5. possibly because they weren't scared and weren't turned off by the add, because they
didn't see it as fear mongering. Maybe that is the reason?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:20 PM
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11. That ad was so wrong on so many levels, I'm not sure
why women were not offended by it.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:23 PM
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13. "Scared White Women"
:rofl:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:20 PM
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20. Polls show concern is about the economy
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 05:22 PM by OzarkDem
not terrorism.

And yes, Dem women voters are very attuned to that issue. They also feel its better to have someone with experience fixing the economy than taking a risk on someone new. The last "new" guy didn't work out so well.

IMHO its a very sensible and pragmatic approach to a severe problem. Laugh if you wish, but worries about the economy are valid and should be every voter's top priority.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:23 PM
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23. There's little or no sunlight between these two with regards to the economy.
And Hillary Clinton never did anything but cheerlead Bill's policy.

Please.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:44 PM
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27. Dem women voters feel differently
tell it to them, I'm just relaying what is showing up in the polls. That's how they feel and they have a valid point.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:49 PM
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28.  Dem women voters are voting their feelings.
Is that what you meant to say?

That doesn't bode well for the thinking party.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:18 PM
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29. They're making an honest, practical assessment
No one needs to tell them they should "feel" afraid because of the state of our economy. They know it all too well.

Their choice of candidates reflects a practical, common sense analysis - Clinton has more experience and speaks more clearly and in greater detail to their concerns. Obama is an unknown quantity who speaks in generalities and talking points. Dem women voters have heard enough of that in past elections and know to choose the candidate with substance.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:24 PM
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30. And that would be the spin.
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 06:32 PM by sfexpat2000
Obama is no more an unknown quantity than Clinton is a populist.

Really. That's just silly.

Eta: What the hell kind of populist would take that kind of money from Big Pharma, the defense industry and not to mention, this guy.

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:27 PM
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25. Then why did all of the candidates with any economic experience drop out?
Neither Clinton nor Obama have significant economic experience.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:22 PM
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22. I really don't know who you are referring to here but this white woman learned a long
time ago not to trust smooth talking men!
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:26 PM
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24. It's the scared white men that gave us a second term of GW Bush
Look at the demographics for that election. It shows most women voted for Kerry and most men voted for Bush. So the whole "scared white women" stereotype is a bunch of bullshit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:28 PM
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26. No, that was election fraud. The stories that were made up
are bs.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:58 PM
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32. Older white women..
the younger ones are a bit more saavy. j/k I'm really not sure except that they really believe that this particular woman can handle things better. A lot of older women already decided to vote for her and then there's the fear factor that older folks seem to grasp onto more than younger people. Personally, i think it's b.s. As long as she doesn't start telling us to buy duct tape and plastic sheeting...
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