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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:31 PM
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Robert Parry: War on Obama by frontline of Washington Establishment - HRC's campaign
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consortiumnews.com

Why the War on Obama

By Robert Parry
February 26, 2008

While some cynics still view Barack Obama’s appeal for “change” as empty rhetoric, it’s starting to dawn on Washington insiders that his ability to raise vast sums of money from nearly one million mostly small donors could shake the grip that special-interest money has long held over the U.S. government.

This spreading realization that Obama’s political movement might represent a more revolutionary change than previously understood is sparking a deepening resistance among defenders of the status quo – and prompting harsher attacks on Obama.

Right now, the front line for the Washington Establishment is Hillary Clinton’s struggling presidential campaign, which has been stunned by Obama’s political skills as well as his extraordinary ability to raise money over the Internet. Obama’s grassroots donations have negated Clinton’s prodigious fundraising advantage with big donors.

Powerful lobbies – from AIPAC to representatives of military and other industries – also are recognizing the value of keeping their dominance over campaign cash from getting diluted by Obama’s deep reservoir of small donors. It’s in their direct interest to dent Obama’s momentum and demoralize his rank-and-file supporters as soon as possible.

So, neoconservatives and other ideological movements – heavily dependent on grants from the same special interests – are now joining with the Clinton campaign to tear down Obama by depicting him as unpatriotic, un-vetted, possibly a “closet Muslim.”

On Feb. 25, the New York Times’ new neocon columnist William Kristol attacked Obama’s patriotism by citing the Illinois senator decision to stop wearing an American flag lapel pin because, Obama said, he saw how George W. Bush was exploiting the flag to stampede the nation toward war with Iraq.

“You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin,” Obama said when asked about his lack of a flag pin in October 2007. “As we’re talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest.”

In a column entitled “It’s All About Him,” Kristol mocked this explanation as an example of both Obama’s dubious claim to patriotism and his pomposity.

“Leaving aside the claim that ‘speaking out on issues’ constitutes true patriotism,” Kristol wrote. “What’s striking is that Obama couldn’t resist a grandiose explanation. … Moral vanity prevailed. He wanted to explain that he was too good – too patriotic! – to wear a flag pin on his chest.”

Kristol then turned on Michelle Obama for her comment about how excited she was by the public outpouring for political change that has surrounded her husband’s campaign: “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country,” she said.

Kristol wrote: “Can it really be the case that nothing the U.S. achieved since has made her proud? Apparently.”

Clinton Money Woes

Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign – having burned through $130 million and needing a $5 million emergency loan from the Clintons’ personal finances – has gone hat in hand to some of the special interests with a strong stake in protecting the Washington status quo.

For instance, campaign finance director Jonathan Mantz met with donors from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in a Washington hotel lobby when these pro-Israel AIPAC supporters were in town for other business, the Wall Street Journal reported on Feb. 14.

The approach made sense because these pro-Israeli lobbyists remain wary of Obama’s advocacy of high-level talks with Iran, his opposition to the Iraq War, and his skimpier record of supporting Israel when compared with Hillary Clinton or John McCain.

One former Israeli official told me that the Israeli government feels it can work with Obama, Clinton or McCain, but that the Israeli lobby in the United States is adamantly opposed to Obama, preferring Clinton because “they own her.” The ex-official said the lobby has some concern, too, with McCain because of his independent streak.

Like other powerful lobbies, AIPAC is threatened by Obama’s ability to raise large sums of money from everyday Americans, thus reducing the need of Washington politicians to hold out their tin cups to AIPAC’s legendary network of wealthy donors.

After having lost 11 consecutive contests, the Clinton campaign is now turning to what its “kitchen sink” strategy of throwing whatever it has at Obama.

Over the past few weeks, Clinton surrogates have been spreading rumors about Obama’s association with people with Arab names and contributions he has received from 1970s-era student radicals (though they’re now gray-haired, middle-class professionals). Some are packaging the attacks under the title, “The Obama Scandals.”

On Feb. 26, Internet gossip Matt Drudge reported that a Clinton staffer e-mailed a photo taken of Obama during a 2006 trip to Kenya when he was dressed in a turban and other traditional garb of a Somali Elder. That reinforced earlier rumors spread about Obama as a secret Muslim, though he has long belonged to a Christian church in Chicago.

Obama’s campaign manager David Plouffe denounced the Clinton campaign for circulating the photo with the goal of “shameful offensive fear-mongering.”

The Clinton campaign denied knowledge of how the photo was disseminated, but campaign manager Maggie Williams attacked the Obama campaign for overreacting. “If Barack Obama’s campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed,” she said.

Two Faces of Hillary

Sen. Clinton herself seemed torn between showing voters her softer side and releasing her inner combative persona.

At the end of a Texas debate on Feb. 21, Sen. Clinton extended her hand to Obama and expressed how “honored” she was to be on the same stage with him. But she soon switched tactics and launched harsh attacks on Obama.

On Feb. 23, reacting to flyers that the Obama campaign distributed in Ohio criticizing her positions on the North American Free Trade Agreement and the mandate included in her health insurance plan, Clinton rebuked her rival.

“Shame on you, Barack Obama,” Clinton shouted, before instructing him to “meet me in Ohio, and let’s have a debate about your tactics and your behavior in this campaign.”

To some observers, Clinton’s outburst had the look of an angry queen scolding a misbehaving servant boy, or a principal pulling a wayward student by the ear to the school office.

“Enough with the speeches and the big rallies and then using tactics right out of Karl Rove’s playbook,” she added, suggesting that the flyers contrasting the positions of the two rivals were somehow a novel or diabolical concept.

In reality, the Obama flyers were pretty standard stuff, more from the playbook of Tom Paine than Karl Rove. If Rove’s playbook were in use, the flyers would have claimed to come from a pro-Hillary group while advocating legalization of child pornography.

But the Clinton campaign was only warming up. On Feb. 24, during a stop in Rhode Island, Clinton mocked Obama’s speeches calling for change:

“Now, I could stand up here and say, ‘Let’s just get everybody together. Let’s get unified. The sky will open. The light will come down. Celestial choirs will be singing, and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect.”

Amid some chuckles from her supporters, Clinton added, “Maybe I’ve just lived a little long, but I have no illusions about how hard this is going to be. You are not going to wave a magic wand and the special interests disappear.”

Though this Clinton line of attack is popular among some of her backers – ridiculing the supposed naivety of Obama’s young supporters – Obama has never suggested that countering the entrenched special interests of Washington would be easy.

Obama’s argument has been that only an energized American public can elect representatives to bring about change and then the people must stay vigilant to make sure there is no backsliding.

While it’s true Obama doesn’t spell out all the difficulties ahead, his argument is at least as realistic as Clinton’s – that Republican obstructionism can be countered with “hard work.” That approach failed miserably when her initial health care plan collapsed in 1994 despite her strenuous efforts on its behalf.

More to the immediate point, however, Obama’s success in getting out from under the special-interest financial dependency may be the most significant political development of this election cycle.

That success also helps explain the emerging war on Obama – and the rising hysteria among Establishment figures about his surging candidacy.



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Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Neck Deep: The Disastrous Presidency of George W. Bush, was written with two of his sons, Sam and Nat, and can be ordered at neckdeepbook.com. His two previous books, Secrecy & Privilege: The Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq and Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth' are also available there. Or go to Amazon.com.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:34 PM
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1. Obama and his supporters are
fighting everyone who is connected to the corporate teat and his vows to change that are not sitting well.

It's come down to The People versus the corporatewhores.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:35 PM
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lol Obama is THE corpwhore in the race.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:41 PM
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10. ...
:spray:
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:02 PM
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17. say hi to JimRob for us
Is THIS Barack Obama?



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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:41 PM
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25. are you familiar with the DLC-DEMS who LOVE CORPORATIONS? Or perhaps this will make the case:
ARTICLE | posted May 17, 2007 (June 4, 2007 issue)
Hillary Inc.

ARI BERMAN


-snip
It's a rousing speech, though ultimately not very convincing. If Clinton really wanted to curtail the influence of the powerful, she might start with the advisers to her own campaign, who represent some of the weightiest interests in corporate America. Her chief strategist, Mark Penn, not only polls for America's biggest companies but also runs one of the world's premier PR agencies. A bevy of current and former Hillary advisers, including her communications guru, Howard Wolfson, are linked to a prominent lobbying and PR firm--the Glover Park Group--that has cozied up to the pharmaceutical industry and Rupert Murdoch. Her fundraiser in chief, Terry McAuliffe, has the priciest Rolodex in Washington, luring high-rolling contributors to Clinton's campaign. Her husband, since leaving the presidency, has made millions giving speeches and counsel to investment banks like Goldman Sachs and Citigroup. They house, in addition to other Wall Street firms, the Clintons' closest economic advisers, such as Bob Rubin and Roger Altman, whose DC brain trust, the Hamilton Project, is Clinton's economic team in waiting. Even the liberal in her camp, former deputy chief of staff Harold Ickes, has lobbied for the telecom and healthcare industries, including a for-profit nursing home association indicted in Texas for improperly funneling money to disgraced former House majority leader Tom DeLay. "She's got a deeper bench of big money and corporate supporters than her competitors," says Eli Attie, a former speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore. Not only is Hillary more reliant on large donations and corporate money than her Democratic rivals, but advisers in her inner circle are closely affiliated with unionbusters, GOP operatives, conservative media and other Democratic Party antagonists.

It's not exactly an advertisement for the working-class hero, or a picture her campaign freely displays. Her lengthy support for the Iraq War is Clinton's biggest liability in Democratic primary circles. But her ties to corporate America say as much, if not more, about what she values and cast doubt on her ability and willingness to fight for the progressive policies she claims to champion. She is "running to help and restore the great middle class in our country," Wolfson says. So was Bill in 1992. He was for "putting people first." Then he entered the White House and pushed for NAFTA, signed welfare reform, consolidated the airwaves through the Telecommunications Act of 1996 (leading to Clear Channel's takeover) and cleared the mergers of mega-banks. Would the First Lady do any different? Ever since the defeat of healthcare reform, Hillary has been a committed incrementalist, describing herself as a creature of the "moderate, sensible center" whom business admires and rewards. During her six years in the Senate, she's rarely been out front on difficult economic issues. Given her proximity to money and power, it's not hard to figure out why she keeps controversial figures close to her--even if their work becomes a liability for her campaign.

-snip

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070604/berman
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:27 PM
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31. I wonder why they are so quick to post hooey and never respond to the refutation
of their hooey?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:01 PM
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58. LOL!....
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:14 PM
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60. More LOL!



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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:26 PM
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62. What reality system do you live in?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:05 AM
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54. Obama is a fighter for the people - he's fighting the ESTABLISHMENT.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 11:06 AM by sparosnare
It's beyond comprehension how people refuse to see this. Charlie Crist came out this morning demanding the DEMOCRATIC PARTY allow DEMOCRATIC delegates to be seated at the DEMOCRATIC conventions. Why? Two reasons - to damage the Democratic Party and to give Hillary Clinton the nomination.

The establishment picked Clinton a long time ago. Obama is a wrench in their plans and they're doing everything they can to stop him.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:27 PM
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63. Amen to that.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:35 PM
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2. K & R
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:35 PM
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3. I find it interesting that although conservatives hate her, neocons seem to like her...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:39 PM
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8. True conservatives don't run the newsmedia, either. The fascists and neocons do.
.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:35 PM
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4. Never underestimate the Establishment and the people who go right along with them
We saw that last night. A lot of good people with good intentions jsut go along with the Establishment.
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bleowheels Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:37 PM
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5. Absolutely correct. At least one journalist is calling out the media...
on their bullshit. It would really be nice if they actually reported the news rather than repeat the Clinton talking points.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:37 PM
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6. Thanks for posting this!
:thumbsup:
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:38 PM
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7. I've read this before. It's a good read. Won't make any difference, but a good read nonetheless.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:56 PM
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15. The truth repeated can ALWAYS make a difference.
Never give up on the truth.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:12 PM
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22. ...
:thumbsup:
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:45 PM
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26. The problem is people mostly hear the lies from the echo chamber on the TV
The truth is usually given short shrift.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:50 PM
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27. Which is why we are here and why we press our case to spread the truth.
Make the truth viral. Yes, we can.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:40 PM
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9. A recommend for we the people power.
Let us pick a candidate for a change.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:41 PM
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11. Fuck it! I'm going to donate again today!
Democracy and Democrats my ass! :mad:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:37 PM
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24. This is why I press the issue of Open Government, FC. It's time we ACT as citizens to be respected
and not as voters to be manipulated by these people wearing donkey masks.
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:36 PM
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32. I heard Hillary likes open "govt" as well...they just differ on what that means.
She wants every agency to have a blog.
A blog I say! To report TO the people, whether truth or spin.

He wants cameras in the meeting rooms where negotiations will be held, broadcast on the net and c-span.
The taking in of ideas and suggestions via internet on Health care, Green energy solutions and more.
Full disclosure of money spent by Congress, and where it goes.
Public comments on newly proposed legislation.
Dialog WITH the people, whether praise or complaint.



There's more, but that is the gist of it.

Bottom up or top down?
A pretty clear choice.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:39 PM
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33. Exactly - You will NEVER see Hillary supporters bragging about her on this issue.
Never.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:42 PM
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12. Yep. This looks like the supporter list on a non-Washington insider all right:
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 05:43 PM by wlucinda
DNC John Davies (AK)
Rep. Artur Davis (AL)
Stewart Burkhalter (AL)#
Del. Eni FH Faleomavaga (AS)
Theresa Hunkin (AS)
Gov. Janet Napolitano (AZ)
Rep. Raul Grijalva (AZ)
Rep. Anna Eshoo (CA)
Rep. Xavier Becerra (CA)
Rep. Barbara Lee (CA)
Rep. Adam Schiff (CA)
Rep. George Miller (CA)
Rep Zoe Lofgren (CA)
Rep. Linda Sanchez (CA)
DNC Hon. Eric Garcetti (CA)
DNC Norma Torres (CA)
DNC Jeremy Bernard (CA)
DNC Mary Ellen Early (CA)
Rep. Ed Perlmutter (CO)
DNC Dan Slater (CO)
Debbie Marquez (CO)
DNC JW Postal (CO)
Sen. Chris Dodd (CT)
Rep. Chris Murphy (CT)
Rep. John Larson (CT)
DNC Stephen Fontana (CT)
DNC Martin Dunleavy (CT)
Rep. Rosa DeLauro (CT)
Anthony Avallone (CT)
Toby Condliffe (DA)*
DNC Liv Gibbons (DA)*
DNC Brent O'Leary (DA)*
DNC Connie Borde (DA)*
Mayor Adrian Fenty (DC)
Sen. Michael Brown (DC)
Sen. Paul Strauss (DC)
Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC)
DNC Dr. James Zogby (DC)
DNC Arrington Dixon (DC)
DNC Jeffrey Richardson (DC)
DNC Anna Burger (DC)
Mike Panetta (DC)#
Rep. Robert Wexler (FL)
DNC Allan Katz (FL)
DNC Joyce Cusack (FL)
Rep. Kathy Castor (FL)
Rep. Sanford Bishop (GA)
Rep. Hank Johnson (GA)
Rep. John Lewis (GA)
Rep. David Scott (GA)
Rep. John Barrow (GA)
DNC Mary Long (GA)
DNC Jane Kidd (GA)
Rep. Neil Abercrombie (HI)
DNC Hon. Gail Bray (ID)
DNC Grant Burgoyne (ID)
DNC Jeanne Buell (ID)
Gov. Rod Blagojevich (IL)
Sen. Barack Obama (IL)
Sen. Dick Durbin (IL)
Rep. Melissa Bean (IL)
Rep. Jerry Costello (IL)
Rep. Danny Davis (IL)
Rep. Luis Gutierrez (IL)
Rep. Phil Hare (IL)
Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (IL)
Rep. Bobby Rush (IL)
Rep. Jan Schakowsky (IL)
DNC Constance Howard (IL)
DNC Margaret Blackshere (IL)
DNC Hon. Emil Jones Jr. (IL)
DNC Hon. Iris Martinez (IL)
DNC Tom Hynes (IL)
DNC Willie Barrow (IL)
DNC Michael Madigan (IL)
DNC John Rednour (IL)
DNC Steve Powell (IL)
DNC Cordelia Lewis Burks (IN)
Rep. Dave Loebsack (IA)
Gov. Chet Culver (IA)
DNC Michael Fitzgerald (IA)
DNC Sarah Swisher (IA)
Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (KS)
DNC E. Lee Kinch (KS)
DNC Randy Roy (KS)
Rep. John Yarmuth (KY)
DNC Ben Jeffers (LA)
DNC John Knutson (ME)
DNC Marianne Stevens (ME)
Rep. Albert Wynn (MD)
Rep. Elijah Cummings (MD)
DNC Karren Pope-Onwukwe (MD)
Gov. Deval Patrick (MA)
Sen. John Kerry (MA)
Sen. Ted Kennedy (MA)
Rep. William Delahunt (MA)
Rep. Michael Capuano (MA)
DNC John Walsh (MA)
DNC Paul Kirk (MA)
DNC Margaret Xifaras (MA)
DNC Raymond Jordan (MA)
DNC David O'Brien (MA)
DNC Alan Solomont (MA)
Rep. John Conyers (MI)
Rep. Jim Oberstar (MN)
Rep. Keith Ellison (MN)
Rep. Tim Walz (MN)
Rep. Betty McCollum (MN)
DNC Mee Moua (MN)
DNC Ken Foxworth (MN)
DNC Brian Melendez (MN)
DNC Donna Cassutt (MN)
Rep. Bennie Thompson (MS)
DNC Johnnie Patton (MS)
Sen. Claire McCaskill (MO)
Rep. Russ Carnahan (MO)
DNC Ed Tinsley (MT)
Rep. Lacy Clay (MO)
Mark Bryant (MO)
Sen. Ben Nelson (NE)
Vince Powers (NE)
DNC Frank LaMere (NE)
DNC Kathleen Fahey (NE)
Rep. Steve Rothman (NJ)
DNC Christine "Roz" Samuels (NJ)
DNC Donald Norcross (NJ)
DNC Dana Redd (NJ)
DNC Steven Horsford (NV)
Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (NH)
Rep. Paul Hodes (NH)
DNC Hon. Martha Fuller Clark (NH)
Fmr DNC Chair Fred Harris (NM)
DNC Marianne Spraggins (NY)
Rep. G.K. Butterfield (NC)
DNC Everett Ward (NC)
DNC Dannie Montgomery (NC)
Sen. Kent Conrad (ND)
Sen. Byron Dorgan (ND)
Rep. Earl Pomeroy (ND)
DNC Jim Maxson (ND)
DNC Renee Pfenning (ND)
DNC Mary Wakefield (ND)
DNC David Wilhelm (OH)
DNC Sonni Nardi (OH)
DNC Mark Mallory (OH)
DNC Rhine McLin (OH)
DNC Kitti Asbury - (OK)
Rep. Earl Blumenauer (OR)
Rep. Patrick Murphy (PA)
Rep. Chaka Fattah (PA)
DNC Carol Ann Campbell (PA)
DNC Leon Lynch (PA)
Gov. Aníbal Acevedo Vilá (PR)
Dr. Celita Arroyo de Roques (PR)
Rep. Patrick Kennedy (RI)
DNC Patrick Lynch (RI)
DNC Waring Howe Jr. (SC)
DNC Carol Fowler (SC)
Sen. Tim Johnson (SD)
Fmr Sen. Tom Daschle (SD)
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD)
DNC Jack Billion (SD)
DNC Sharon Stroschein (SD)
DNC Nicholas Nemec (SD)
Rep. Jim Cooper (TN)
Rep. Steve Cohen (TN)
DNC Lois DeBerry (TN)
DNC Will Cheek (TN)
DNC (Rep.) Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX)
Rep. Chet Edwards (TX)
Rep. Al Green (TX)
Rep. Lloyd Doggett (TX)
Rep. Charlie Gonzalez (TX)
DNC Rep. Hon. Yvonne Davis (TX)
DNC Moses Mercado (TX)
DNC Senfronia Thompson (TX)
DNC Roy LaVerne Brooks (TX)
DNC Bill Orton (UT)
Sen. Patrick Leahy (VT)
Rep. Peter Welch (VT)
DNC Ian Carleton (VT)
Gov. Tim Kaine (VA)
Rep. Bobby Scott (VA)
Rep. Jim Moran (VA)
Rick Boucher (VA)
Gov. John P. deJongh, Jr. (VI)
Cecil Benjamin (VI)
Judy Bevans (VT)
DNC Chuck Ross Jr. (VT)
Rep. Adam Smith (WA)
Rep. Brian Baird (WA)
DNC Pat Notter (WA)
Gov. Christine Gregoire (WA)
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (WV)
Gov. Jim Doyle (WI)
Sen. Russ Feingold (WI)
Rep. Gwen Moore (WI)
Rep. David Obey (WI)
Rep. Ron Kind (WI)
Rep. Steve Kagen (WI)
DNC Stan Gruszynski (WI)
DNC Jason Rae (WI)
DNC Joe Wineke (WI)
DNC Peter Jorgenson (WY)
DNC John Millin (WY)

:eyes:
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:49 PM
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13. It's not full of IranContra, BCCI criminals the way Clintons were funded in order protect BushInc.
.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:51 PM
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14. PS: Do you know the difference between Dem lawmakers and Establishment Powerstructure?
.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:03 PM
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18. Yes, I do, actually.
But thank you for asking. :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:07 PM
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21. Hint: Anyone who protects the interests of BushInc would be ESTABLISHMENT POWER PLAYERS.
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 06:08 PM by blm
Republicans or Democrats.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:05 PM
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20. actually, it does. nt.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:31 PM
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37. Did you notice Russ Feingold on that list, or did you just cut and paste
without reading it?

Also,

Gov. Janet Napolitano

Rep. Linda Sanchez

Sen. Chris Dodd

Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton

Rep. John Lewis

Rep. Russ Carnahan

Fmr DNC Chair Fred Harris

Sen. Patrick Leahy


A superdelegate by definition is an office holder or former office holder.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:42 AM
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49. They prefer Mark Penn, James Carville, Lanny Davis and the Clinton-Lieberman wing of the party.
That Kennedy-Kerry wing is just far too progressive and open for the Clinton-Lieberman wing of the party that prefers closed government.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:59 PM
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16. I find it hard to believe...
...his misspelling of the "naivete" would make it by an editor.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:04 PM
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19. One of the best investigative journalists of the last 40 years. Old school or new school.
na·ive·ty or na·ïve·ty (n-vt, nä-, n-v-t, nä-)
n.
Artlessness or credulity; naiveté.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:17 PM
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23. I raised the issue of neocon infiltration of the Clinton campaign weeks ago...
The neocons absolutely have it in for Obama. I am certain of it. They will gladly destroy the Democratic Party if that is what it takes to stop our little rebellion against the status quo.


And it is they who have been whispering in Hillary's ear. Their advice prompted her to adopt her current tactics.


Now are people ready to believe it?

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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:00 PM
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28. This is the article that the Clintonites do not want us to read.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:04 PM
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29. Notice how diligently they stay AWAY from this and any BushInc corruption thread.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:47 PM
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57. It's staggering to me how much willful naivite there is among some establishment Dems
It's as if they have an override switch -- an all-powerful self-censor inside their heads -- that makes them avoid any exposure or contact with the cruel truth that some of their heroes -- e.g., the Clintons -- are compromised and playing both sides.

They refuse to deal with the record that documents Clinton's involvement with some of the most notorious intelligence and corruption scandals,. That's a long list of groups and individuals that includes Jackson Stephens, Iran-Contra, BCCI, Mena Airport, WAL*MART, Infosystems, the CIA, the NSA, Chinese Intelligence, Saudi GID, etc. Atop that, there are serious questions about Hillary honesty in advocating for the neocon agenda, and her role as an advocate for the Iraq War Resolution and escalation of conflict with Iran.

This is not to say that the Clintons are worse than the Bush family, just that they are involved together in the same spooky underworld of global power players, crooked bankers, spies, terrorists, arms and drug dealers. Are they competitors or partners? Both. Frankly, that would normally disqualify someone from high public office. But, for those who want power in DC, some things have to be ignored.

Their heads must hurt from fighting cognitive dissidence all these years.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:27 PM
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30. I call it the Kerry effect.
Once a real Dem gets a little wind in his sails, he's up against the NYT, WAPO, CNN, the White House, the GOP, and of course, the Clintons and their operatives, clients and paymasters -- basically the entire establishment.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:32 PM
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56. It's the Kennedy-Kerry wing of the party v Clinton-Lieberman wing of the party.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 12:41 PM by blm
heh
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:12 PM
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34. This needs to be read. Highly recommended.
n/t

:dem:

-Laelth
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:18 PM
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35. K&R. Important story, one that has been forgotten or never learned by some...n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:53 AM
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38. At this point some don't WANT to learn anything that challenges lies they tell themselves everyday.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:21 PM
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36. K&R
This is food for thought, in fact quite a substantial meal. :)
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:59 AM
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39. so she has her supporters. Obama should wish for that support. He'll need it IF he gets the nom.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:08 AM
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41. Well, we know now how Clinton 'loyalists' help other Dems BEHIND THE SCENES, don't we?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:12 AM
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42. there's only enough knowledgeable (and willing) Democrats available
to JUST fill out a Democratic administration, no matter who gets to hold the top job. Most all of our party's present political class will find their way in the door, in one form or the other.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:15 AM
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43. As a Democrat do you PREFER the next administration have more Open Government Dems in it
or more of the same Dems who side with secrecy and privilege of closed government?

And what are you doing to promote YOUR preference?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:17 AM
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45. I don't buy your premise that the alternative -O- isn't predisposed to warm to the same influences
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:18 AM by bigtree
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:27 AM
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46. Well, I trust that fewer of them will warm to the degree the Clintons have to BushInc.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:28 AM by blm
And I also trust that Kerry and Hart and Durbin will be FAR BETTER influences in that regard than the people around the Clintons.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:30 AM
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47. but, Obama hails from Illinois, and I imagine his posse will follow him to D.C.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:30 AM by bigtree
. . . much like Bill's did from Arkansas. They both strike me as similar. Young, ambitious. O's only just begun . . .
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:39 AM
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48. Bill was groomed by Jackson Stephens for his and GHWBush's protection.
What Chicago guys are international financiers funding global terror networks?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:01 AM
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53. I don't see any reason at all to go there.
I just don't have the interest in spending the time arguing it out.

But (wading into the river of fire), I've said to you before that these associations can be strung out to look like some direct line to something or someone nefarious. I do see that Obama has many longtime friendships with Illinois political operatives, some of which have their own exotic and insinuating connections . . .
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:12 AM
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55. Clinton-Jackson-Bush are DIRECT and have been far more SERIOUS to our nation
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 11:13 AM by blm
than any that could come out of Chicago.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:04 PM
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59. well, they don't seem to be warming to him...
Does that tell you anything?

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:06 AM
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40. a mid-morning kickie....
:kick:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:16 AM
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44. she's a *****
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:46 AM
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50. You know that this is my soapbox issue!!!
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:52 AM by GumboYaYa
Power protects power. Any time the people try to raise up and be heard, the media, special interests and entrenched powers line up to protect the estblishment.

It is easy to use the combination of a bought and paid for corporate media, special interests, and existing political machine to hold onto power when the people aren't paying attention. When the people get involved, get ready for a battle royale. The establishment wins the battle most of the time, but I am firmly convinced that the people can and will win the battle. This election is our best chance yet.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:50 AM
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51. Best chance yet was in 2004. This is the LAST chance we have at this point. If we fail we
will have no chance left to reverse the fascist course this nation has been on for so long.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:56 AM
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52. K&R. Thank you, blm. n/t
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:18 PM
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61. Booked.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:28 PM
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64. K & R
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 04:29 PM by IsItJustMe
It's all beginning to make some sense now. You know, all those things you wonder about and now the chips are falling in place.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:12 PM
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65. Some of us have taken quite a few hits over the years because we started to notice
the betrayals and who they benefited in the long run and it was never the Dem party or other Democrats standing against the DC powerstructure.

Now that Clintons are operating under the glare of her public campaign the level of deceit they have used to undermine and attack other Dems when they stayed so silent while BushInc attacked the left for 8 years - well- NOW it's easier for people to see.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:17 PM
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66. Amen. Time to take out the garbage and clean out the trash.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:27 PM
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67. Thanks for this article. Very well written.
As always, thanks blm! :hi:
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