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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:09 PM
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Has Zogby been apprehended yet?
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 07:12 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
I assume he's laying low in a dilapidated Arizona motel with a bottle of cheap hooch, peering through the filthy, dented slats of the Venetian blinds, waiting for his subscribers to catch up with him.

Seriously... I thought American Research Guess was looking ridiculous this primary season, but ARG actually hit yesterday's results fairly well.

Hats off to DemocratSinceBirth for citing in advance that Zogby's Obama wave in OH, aka "the mortal lock of the week," was probably bad news for Senator Obama.

Please Mister Zogby, stay out of Pennsylvania, if not for yourself then for the children.

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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:09 PM
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1. Zogby was dead on in Texas
But off in OH.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:10 PM
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2. He was so far off in Ohio...he WAS in Texas
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:12 PM
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6. Thanks for the fact update. I edited OP to reflect it.
Just a note, the OP is strictly to make fun of Zogby who has annoyed me for years, not to dis Obama supporters.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:24 PM
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19. Yesterday I Was Feeling Brave
And tried to register at Intrade and put $100.00 on RI, TX, and OH but couldn't log on...

If you would have bet on Hill in NH you could have got $100.00 or $200.00 back on your $1.00...

But even Hillary's own pollsters were flummoxed by the results...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:12 PM
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7. He Was Dead On In TX Because He Probably Saw What Everybody Else Was Coming Up With
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:15 PM
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11. He changed Ohio to even on the last day, maybe after seeing the other polls.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:18 PM
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17. Exactly..
I have read he doesn't release the crosstabs...If you don't see the crosstabs it's hard to figure out what's going on...

I'm not a big fan of Rasmussen but I read he's one of the most transparent pollsters...

Maybe he does for his paid subscribers...

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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:40 PM
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28. They all do that
They all weight their polls to reflect trends observed by other polls.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:11 PM
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3. ROFL. nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:11 PM
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4. Strange since he did catch the last minute momentum for Hillary in Texas.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:13 PM
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9. See Post Seven
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:11 PM
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5. Ohio machines are probably still switching the votes like they were programed
to do in 2004.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:13 PM
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8. I think I recognize your handle
from the UFO's are real website. lol.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:16 PM
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13. What are you doing there?
:)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:16 PM
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14. a little out of control
I guess. :)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:14 PM
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10. You Can Ask For A Recount
Maybe it will work as well as the one in NH that showed HRC actually picking up votes...
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:24 PM
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20. I think she picked up
a ten thousandth of a percent give or take a couple decimal places. But what the heck, let Obama file an offical protest.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:15 PM
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12. put on your tinfoil
:tinfoilhat:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:16 PM
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15. Some blog had a chart with every polling firms accuracy thus far.
I can't remember it though.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:18 PM
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16. Zogby
Two days before the Ohio election, Zogby had Obama ahead. The day before the election, he had it as a dead heat.

SurveyUSA's final poll, released Monday: Hillary ahead by 10 points, 54-44.

Hillary won Ohio 54-44.

It's almost an exact replay of the California primary, where Zogby and SurveyUSA were at opposite ends of the spectrum and SurveyUSA nailed the exact final vote.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/181548.php
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:21 PM
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18. Survey USA Is A Very Reliable* Pollster
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:27 PM
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21. That one is a bit older. Zomby has dropped to 23rd place
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:30 PM
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23. Ron Lester needs to poll another state... get back on that horse.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:31 PM
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24. !!!
:spray:
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:33 PM
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25. Wow... Rasmussen isn't doing so well either... in the Zogby/ARG zone
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:35 PM
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27. Ras has not done well.
I can't believe that hack Republican outfit Strategic Visions is doing better than many of the big guys.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:28 PM
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22. You think its an effect of robocalling or do you think their methodology is just better?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:33 PM
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26. I Think Because They Don't Have To Pay Callers They Can Get Huge, Huge Samples
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 07:33 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Perhaps that outweighs not having live callers...

There's lot of literature on the efficacy of robo v live callers...
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