Hillary was better off BEFORE Texas and Ohio.

[Blarch]

Before Texas and Ohio she had the potential to win with the margins needed to continue....Today she doesn't.

She needed to win Texas and Ohio with large margins to close the delegate count, this didn't happen.

Today those delegates are accounted for, and the potential is lost.

The math hasn't changed...she should now drop out.

[Guava Jelly]

1. Must we do this?

This is freeperlike shit

[Blarch]

4. LOL.Wrong.

Bill prasing Rove is freeper like shit.

Hillary running her race like Rove is freeper like shit

Hillary claiming she was always against NAFTA is freeper like shit.


But pointing out that Hillary can't win at this point is not freeper like shit.

[Guava Jelly]

7. I was commenting on the picture

It is a cheap shot IMHO
BTW I am an Obama voter.

[Blarch]

30. I wanted a picture where she looked defeated.

She is defeated at this point, maybe Huckabee should let her know.

How about these ?

[Guava Jelly]

36. Any of those would be better.

I'd prefer none of them though.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. I'll Bet She's Hotter Than Anything You Ever Had

~

[Cha]

73. Thanks! You're a

trooper. :)

[Cant trust em]

65. What's wrong with that picture?

Looks like two democrats who like each other personally.

[Cha]

31. That is an ugly picture..do we have

to look at..we know how ugly she is without a visual.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. Why Don't You Post Your Picture

Or send it here so folks can rate you:


http://www.hotornot.com/

[Kittycat]

5. Please tell us... While she's busy playing Rove's best friend...

How exactly does she get the delegates she needs? She doesn't.

[Guava Jelly]

16. I don't believe personally that she will either

I just disapprove of the photo.
We can argue our case in more productive ways and so could they.

[msongs]

2. obama didnt get the delegates to win. he should drop out as well ha ha nt

[Maddy McCall]

3. Hillary won last night. Twist it as you might...

[Blarch]

6. Jeeesh.

winning isn't enough. ...she needed to win by larger margins ..and it didn't happen.

[Maddy McCall]

She won. 3 states.

Tough for you, I know.

[Liberal Veteran]

14. So, you think she's the frontrunner now?

[Maddy McCall]

18. She won three states last night. I know it hurts...

but it's the truth.

[Liberal Veteran]

22. Ooo....and Obama won 14 of the last 17 contests. I know it hurts....

...but it's the truth.

(Btw...weren't you one of those people crying about how all the Obama people were assholes and jerks? Funny how you decided not to practice what you preach, sister.)

[aquart]

55. And yet, with all that momentum, he didn't win these three.

How funny is that?

[Liberal Veteran]

67. A month ago, Clinton was overwhelmingly beating him in Ohio and Texas.

Yet, he all but erased her victory to the point that she got a single digit bump in the delegate count.

That's an accomplishment in and of itself.

[aquart]

81. No, sorry. The EXPECTATION was that he'd finish her off in Texas.

If you do worse than expectation, you're a loser. Ask any market analyst.

This is the side effect of having the press get all mushy and adoring of you. They bury your opponent too fast...and when the voters say otherwise, it's a freaking resurrection.

[WVRevy]

24. You can count to three. Congrats.

When you can make it to 27 - as in, he's won 27 elections - let us know.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

[tridim]

Well, 2 at least. The Texas results aren't in yet.

50% aint bad, but it's nowhere near enough to overcome Obama's lead.

[beezlebum]

17. didn't she need

65% of the delegates or something?

i'm so confused. one thread says suck on it- hillary won. another says no she didn't, suck on that...

[ClassWarrior]

28. She needed at least 60% of the delegates in every remaining contest, including...

...last night.

:shrug:

NGU.

[JackORoses]

9. Hillary didn't win by the required margin. So in the long run, she lost.

You can comprehend that, correct?

Or are you one of those hardcore MI/FL/SuperPoachedDelegate Hillarites?

[Maddy McCall]

15. 3 states. Obama lost his mo.

And Hillary gained hers. She'll take PA, too.

I know it sucks for you Obamites...but you'll get over it.

[BringBigDogBack]

45. She'll take PA, only after losing Wyo and MS by bigger margins

than she could ever hope to pull out of another big state squeeker in PA.

And then...... flatline.


Reality is going to set in for you. And I am going to be here to see it.

[Maddy McCall]

52. Oh, she'll lose red states. The pain! Yet she's taking the big blue states...

which I know stings.

[JackORoses]

57. Haven't you heard the News? Obama Two-Stepped his way to Victory in Texas.

Hillary may call it Momentum but it doesn't have any weight behind it.
No real power.

It's like comparing a Firefly to a Freight Train. Both move fast, but one dies on impact the other crushes anything in its way.

Hillary had 'wins' but they gained her nothing. Momentum without Mass.
When Obama wins he has been picking up Delegates. Momentum and Mass.

For example, Obama's +8 delegate win in DC netted him more Delegates than Hillary gained yesterday in contests with 370 delegates up for grabs.

Obama's win in little ol' DC gained him more ground than all Hillary's hoopla from yesterday.

[Liberal Veteran]

12. And despite her "impressive" victories, she barely got even a bump in delegates.

[Maddy McCall]

19. Obama fatigue has set in.

She's going to continue...just wait for PA.

[BringBigDogBack]

13. Did she? She gained 4 delegates on him, and 35% of the remaining delegates flew off the table.

She looks worse off where I'm standing.

60% of remaining delegates is gonna be tough. (That's over 65% of votes)


Good luck.

[Maddy McCall]

20. Obama fatigue. It's catching.

[BringBigDogBack]

25. I'd hate to be in your position.

Arguing what you have to now, must suck feeling backed into a corner...

:hi:

[Maddy McCall]

42. Feeling great today. We won last night.

I imagine, though, that you feel like this:

[Madam Mossfern]

68. Is that the latest of Hillary's slogans?

Boy her campaign is good at that.

[Blarch]

34. It's impossible.

Well...Maybe if a few pics of Obama with Osama surface.

Besides that, it's over. Obama sealed it up last night, yet the media can't see it.

[BringBigDogBack]

37. agree.

Maybe someone should send them a fucking memo.

[Guava Jelly]

27. That one isn't much better

I hate seeing both camps do this.

[Maddy McCall]

33. I'm trying to remember the last time your opinion mattered to me.

Hmmmm....oh yeah. Never.

[Guava Jelly]

44. fair enough

Have fun with your crusade

[Maddy McCall]

47. I think there's a naughty sex thread in the lounge calling you.

[BringBigDogBack]

48. I think there's a bug up your ass.

Perhaps a frog with teeth.

[Maddy McCall]

50. You're so cuute when you're angry!

[BringBigDogBack]

54. ...

:rofl:

[anamandujano]

8. "Three more days! Two more days! One more day!" Oops!

He couldn't close the deal.

You were better off before Ohio and Texas. Now Hillary is better off.

[Maddy McCall]

10. LOL....

:rofl:

Which made her victory last night all the sweeter.

[WVRevy]

29. One word:

SCOREBOARD

[northzax]

49. this is correct

because tree is no way for either candidate to get enough delgates to clinch without supers, you look at other things. And they went head to head in two huge states, very different states, for two weeks, spending freely, campaigning like mad. She won them, both of them. Head to head, no Edwards to muck it up, she beats him when they are both all in. If you are a superdelegate, and you have to pick, where do you lean? To the guy who is ahead, marginally, on delegates, or the one who wins when they go head to head for all the marbles? He still has won only one of the top ten states in population, his home state. She has jersey, new York, California, Texas, Ohio. Even without counting Michigan and florida...

[CatnHat]

58. LOL

I love it . . was it only yesterday, we were bombarded with the countdown posts!!!! :rofl: :rofl:

[Gore1FL]

83. Speaking of deal closing....

How is it that Mrs inevitable is going to end up in Denver with a substantial delegate deficit?

[AJH032]

11. spin all you want.

fact is Hillary got more votes and won more delegates last night.

[jgraz]

21. So were we all.

:banghead:

[jgraz]

23. I gotta say, that picture of Hillary is really sexist and insulting

At least put her in a white turban and darken her skin a bit! :P

[Cha]

35. And widen her nose? They

did not do that!

[ORDem]

26. K&R n/t

:kick:

[tabatha]

32. dumb thread - from both sides

[cbayer]

38. Why don't you call here and tell her?

I am sure she will drop out if she hears it from you.

[sniffa]

39. Ditch the pic

And I give you one more Rec. Unnecessary.

[Blarch]

71. Done.

[sniffa]

74. Now done on my end

Thanks.

[CatnHat]

40. I really hope

when Clinton wins the nomination, she has the sense NOT to ask Obama for the VP slot. If these Obama supporters think they're doing anyone favors by posting sexist photos to help their candidate, they're screwed. Once Clinton wins, I hope these parasites leave the DU once and for all. They have done nothing but disrupt the boards with their vile personal attacks at Clinton. Why don't they start their own political party and take Obama with them.

[Blarch]

43. If you noticed..

I posted the OP like I was talking to a four year old ...Trying to reach the simplest of minds.

I failed. The Hillary supporters STILL think it is possible for her to be the nominee.

[bleowheels]

60. How is it a sexist picture? Is it not a picture of Hillary Clinton? I..

agree that it is not flattering. Does that make it sexist? I think not. I would not have included a picture like that if I was the original poster but just posting a picture of a tired looking Hillary does not make it sexist. Would it be chauvanistic to post a picture of * falling asleep? The answer is no.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

64. Not As Much Sexist As Fucked Up And Mean Spirited

~

[bleowheels]

66. I'll give you that one.

I remember in the nineties when Rush Limbaugh had a short lived TV show he used to find the most unflattering and outdated pictures of those he disagreed with. I thought that was a dickish thing to do.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

70. As If He Was George Clooney

~

[Beausoir]

41. That pic of her looks JUST like

how I feel after reading your childish post.

Numb-nuts.

[CatnHat]

53. At least I don't

pretend I'm something I'm not, like your candidate. Always judge the candidate with the company he keeps, and if these zealot Obama supporters are any indication, he is the same caliber. Just like Obama's pals, yeah, always surround yourself with be best :sarcasm:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. Why Don't You Post Your Picture , Pretty Boy?

~

[Kahuna]

51. My Eyes!!! Darn youm Blarch!! nt

[ExFreeper4Obama]

56. Actually she is worse off if you think about it

The potential is no longer there and 370 delegates are now off the table and she only gained +4. She's done. Thats why she talked about sharing the ticket in november. Thats not gonna happen. She should bow out now and save the party.

[CatnHat]

63. Obama should leave

If Obama is the "uniter" as he claims he is, he should leave now and spare the party.

[CyberPieHole]

61. Obama might as well go back to working as counsel for Slumlord Antoin Rezko...

Obama just lost three primaries in a row.


http://www.news.uiuc.edu/ii/04/0805/obama,barack_w.jpg.png

[Liberal Veteran]

69. Hillary ought to go back to being an advocate for Wal-Mart.

[CyberPieHole]

76. What's wrong with Wal~mart?

The Syrian born Slumlord, Antoin Rezko, is a crook and Obama is tied to him.

[Liberal Veteran]

77. Oh, sweetie. How sad that you even have to ASK "What's wrong with Wal-Mart?"

[CyberPieHole]

80. Is it so "low rent", Cupcake, that it's beneath you?

[stray cat]

72. she failed to achieve the margins to catch up on delegates..

but at least she didn't lose.

[mohc]

75. First get rid of the picture

It takes away from any argument you may have.

If one only focuses on the raw counts, you are indeed correct. Clinton went into last night needing to win about 58% of the remaining pledged delegates in order to win at least half of the total pledged delegates. She comes out needing 64% of the now remaining pledged delegates to get half. So numerically, yes she is falling behind as far as the available delegates. But what this analysis misses is the change in the dynamics of the race. Most Clinton supporters are not going to claim this as a large win in terms of delegates or states, but as a turning point. Obama held a narrow lead after the 4 early states, won a tiny margin on supertuesday, and then racked up big leads for the rest of February. With two more favorable states before the 6 week break before Pennsylvania, Clinton needed to show movement to remain viable. And regardless of the delegates she netted, winning states and breaking the streak of losses as well as least starting to cut into Obama's lead stopped her losses. While she certainly could have done better, Clinton did what she needed to do and thus yesterday was a strong win.

Clinton will not have the benefit of being able to play to this scenario with Pennsylvania. With the rest of the schedule fairly favorable to Obama, and him holding a sizable lead, Clinton can not just show progress. Clinton must win decisively, and this time it must exceed the level she must maintain. This probably means she needs to win about a 2/3 margin in order to stay in the fight, although she could obviously come close to that and remain in the race. A 55-45 victory like she had in Ohio simply will not cut it.

[bigtree]

78. you should drop out now

for the good of the party

[Beregond2]

79. Math

This is completely correct. Don't buy into the media hysteria, it's over.

[amborin]

82. Hillary won crucial states...and most important, Ohio, w/o which you can't win the GE

[Hawkowl]

84. Nonsense. Ohio is not essential

Review the 2000 race. Gore lost Ohio and could've won if any other state had gone his way.

[amborin]

85. nonsense post

[amborin]

86. why is Obama drinking water from a plastic bottle?

just gives money to the corporations who market it, pollutes the landfills, takes resources away from nations that don't even have funds for potable water