sorry hillary supporters, the math is not in your favor.

[mathewsleep]

she'd have to win every remaining state by 62-38 to regain the delegate lead.
that's highly unlikely. sorry. just the facts. her only realistic hope to win is to persuade the super delegates to overturn the will of the people. the math is solid.

try it out for you self. be realistic.
here is the link.

there is not conceivable way that she'd win all the remaining states. especially by 62-38. that's not going to happen unless obama fucks up big. like big enough at this point that he'd go to jail.

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. It's not in Obama's either, so big deal.

Yours is a particularly stupid talking point cast out by the Obama fax gazette after his defeat last night, picked up by every sore loser in the country.

[politicks]

3. How is it stupid?

The facts are real. How does she catch up in the delegate count. He's right, do the math. Hillary loses.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. How does he get enough to defeat her?

[pbca]

9. Unless she wins all the remaining states

By wide margins - he'll have the delegate lead going into the convention.

She'll have to be way better in future than last night.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/03/05/clinton-obama.html?ref=rss

Last night she only picked up a baby step forward.

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. Delegate lead is no guarantee of anything. It's a sham.

[pbca]

14. Funny...that's how it's always been decided before

What alternative would you suggest?

[politicks]

15. Do you suggest the super delegates subvert the will of the people?

[The_Casual_Observer]

19. What are the rules exactly?

[politicks]

22. It's not about the rules.

It's about logic. Do you really, honestly think the party insiders should change the will of the people, go against the popular vote, vote against the person who won more pledged delegates. That would KILL the party. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if that's how she wins.

[The_Casual_Observer]

23. "It's not about the rules" - Say no more!

[politicks]

24. You're dumb.

Address my point.

[The_Casual_Observer]

27. Your it, I quit!

[politicks]

30. You can't address my point.

Which is why you want to quit. Because I am right.

[politicks]

31. And it's "you're" not "your".

[The_Casual_Observer]

34. Guess what?

That's what!

[politicks]

37. Ha!

I won. Thanks for the discussion.

[The_Casual_Observer]

35. Stick out you're thumb

Gee your dumb.

[Emit]

25. What are the rules governing superdelegates?

[politicks]

26. There are no rules to who they have to vote for.

The could all go to Gravel if they wanted. BUT! they better go with the winner. Or the party will lose.

[politicks]

28. So you're saying if Hillary was in the delegate lead,

and the super delegates broke for Obama you would be okay with that.
BULLSHIT.

[Emit]

18. lol!

so silly

[politicks]

10. Yes, but he'll be in the lead.

The super delegates will follow the will of the people, or split the party.

[daa]

39. He won't get enough either

did you flunk math?

[Emit]

2. Aside from having the delegate lead, Obama's got the popular vote, too

contrary to what many are saying on DU, unless Florida and Michigan are counted. Bottom line, though, is the delegate count:

2008 Democratic Popular Vote

Popular Vote Count
*******************Obama***********Clinton
Popular Vote Total - - 12,989,852*******12,403,174
Popular Vote (w/FL) - - 13,566,066*******13,274,160
Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)* - 13,566,066****13,602,469

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

[daa]

40. Big deal, so did Gore eom

[politicks]

41. And he should be president.

[cynatnite]

4. What about MI and FL...

Have you used those states in your figures?

[pbca]

6. FL and MI haven't had primaries yet

It remains to be seen if they will

[Emit]

16. Well, they did, sort of.

[pbca]

21. Not according to the DNC

and they are the ones who made the rules for this whole show. Set aside the DNC and we might as well quit the primaries altogether and both candidates can go forward into the general election.

[mathewsleep]

8. there're not my figures.

go to the link, try it yourself.

[nomorewhopper]

7. she cannot catch up to obama

but she will try to steal the election regardless

[zulchzulu]

12. You expect a college dropout who supports Hillary to figure that out?

[Mezzo]

13. The RULES apply to him too, and he can't get there...so settle down nah.

she is more electable.

He outspends her, and she still wins? Unreal.

[pbca]

20. He'd still be in a much stronger position than her

going into the convention. I don't know how you'd talk the person who has the lead in electoral votes AND the popular vote into conceding defeat.

[pbca]

17. You forgot the other math

Her campaign is broke. Even if there is an upsurge in donations after yesterday - they won't get back to even, they are sinking in debt right now. If Michigan and Florida were to hold do over primaries, she might not be able to afford it. Right now she may not make it to Pennsylvania unless she's very careful.

[elixir]

29. And the math isn't in his favor either. Both cannot win the nomination with the delegates left...

they will both go to Denver. Unless, FL and MI....

[high density]

32. So the only option left is

A fight to the death in Denver. I guess?

Dean has already said the rules aren't going to change, so don't get your hopes up over FL and MI.

[HughMoran]

33. My head is big and plump so I post Mr. Obvious stuff

Are you implying that Hillary supporters are morans?

[mathewsleep]

36. i think they protest too much.

they want their candidate to win. i want my candidate win.

[politicks]

38. *Bling.*