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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:53 PM
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The 60%+ Win Club a MUST to Win the Nom (Hill Only Has 1)
Obama has won 25 states, Clinton 14
Obama has 1,307 pledged delegates to Clinton's 1,175

1,627 is fifty percent plus one of the 3,253 democratically selected delegates to the Democratic nominating convention.

Once a candidate has 1,627 of these "pledged" delegates, he or she will win the nomination -- unless the 796 superdelegates overturn the judgment of voters.



The ONLY way Hillary has any hope is if she accomplishes what Obama has already accomplished.

She has only done this in ONE ... ONE ... ONE state won by > 60%. Arkansas.

Take a look for yourself at the contests so far.



Yikes ... the graphic doesn't include the March 4 primaries, but heck Hillary supporters should be glad. While she got close to 60% in R.I., she didn't get so close in OH or TX.

Oh yeah ... Obama added ANOTHER state to the 60%+ win club with Vermont.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:57 PM
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1. Thanks for the info, easy to understand and great news for us Obama people.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:58 PM
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2. Great post!
K & R :thumbsup:
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:59 PM
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3. um...WRONG
for the general election does not award electors proportionately, and he can't get the delegate numbers with all the charts in the wooooorld. He can't carry swing states, and using the electoral map, she mops the US with his hiney.

sorry, but she is just more electable than him. I know lots of Republicans who will vote for her, but wouldn't consider voting for him.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:04 PM
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4. And I know many Republicans that voted for him because they believe he's right for the WH.
They don't want a continuation of Bush, but would sooner slit their wrists than vote for her.

And he is proving that the 50state plan works, in the process. Dem states will continue on as Dem States - he's also won big states, and cut her margins in big states very thin. She only netted 9 delegates out of Ohio... And most of those voters are going to vote for him in the GE.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:22 PM
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5. Obama Will Beat McLame
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:33 PM
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6. lmao.
Holy shit.

I think he was being serious too.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:11 PM
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7. Cincinnati Ohio yesterday hubby's GOP coworker called to say he was voting for Hillary because they
don't want to face Obama

They fear the charisma, the resources of a candidate who gets lots of small contribution so the donor base isn't up against limits.

I believe they are also very nervous about future macaca eruptions.

A single macaca moment ended the presidential aspirations of George Allen
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:18 PM
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8. The delegate count is almost over
Remember, the magic number is 1,627, which is fifty percent plus one of the 3,253 democratically selected delegates to the Democratic nominating convention.

As of today (3/5/08) the Associated Press gives Obama 1,360 (see: http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/)

Delegates needed for Obama to reach 50% + 1: 267 <<This number will get smaller after the caucus results are known out of TX>>

On the Superdelegate front.

According to AP (same source as before)

Obama 207
Hill 242

If that math is right then 449 supers have made their choice, with 345 remaining in the well.

According to a certain Tom working for MSNBC, Obama has 50 Supers waiting in the wings.

The well gets drier with only 295 delegates left.

After Penn. Obama will be considerably closer to 1,627 and magic number needed to get there will get smaller and smaller. Kind of like a team in first place in their division at the end of the baseball season.

Getting to the playoffs takes prolonged performance over the course of an entire season. Even if a team's performance in the final weeks of the season isn't up to the high bar they've set, it doesn't mean you disregard the whole season.

Take the 2006 St. Louis Cardinals for example. Not doing so well in the final stretch of 2006, but their talent and hardwork throughout the year EARNED them the Division title and a playoff shot.

Maybe you remember how the story ended that year for my Cardinals and the Democrats in the Fall of 2006.





So it will go with Obama despite the MSM and the GOP licking their lips of this thing going to the convention.

GO OBAMA!!!
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:27 PM
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9. Well lets have Florida and Michigan revote, as well as other States and we will see.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:15 AM
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10. Florida and Michigan ...
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 12:16 AM by Khaotic
... said fuck the rules.

Why should they get to revote?

They knew what they were doing ... they decided that it was more important to make a statement than for their delegates to count.

Perhaps they figured one of the candidates would sew things up quickly and that their delegates wouldn't matter. In that case, their statement would have been made and no one would care about their delegates.

They gambled with their state's delegates ... pathetic.

Michigan AND Florida's Democratic Parties are to blame. Scream at them.

Instead of Hillary being pissed at them and siding with the DNC, she decided to be a true blue DLC sellout and turn her back on the rules. Ah, what does Edwards and Obama know? Hell with them, smoking crack can't be as bad as they say right?

She used bad judgment and gave the finger to the DNC, why should anyone give MI, FL, or Hill a second chance?

There's a reason why Obama didn't campaign in either state. The only ads shown were national ads, no local buys. His name wasn't even on the ballot in MI. Why, because he played by the rules.

Obama felt it was better to play by the rules than to be branded a rule breaker. Maybe he would be seen in a better light. He was, he should have been, and he took the lead in delegates.

Bottomline, as MI, FL, & Hill ask the DNC and the Democratic Party the question, What Now? ...



Well, we're gonna tell you What Now.

MI/FL ... You done lost all your delegate privileges for 2008, that's What Now.

As for this crying, shrill, two-timing, red phone fear mongering, McLame lovin', 'I take him at his word' Bitch!

We're gonna call up a nation of millions of progressives ready to take this country back ...



That's right Hill ... you hear us talkin' to you! We're gonna get medieval on your ass!!!!

GO OBAMA!!!
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:17 AM
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11. She can still win.
And she's not going to give up. Whats your fucking point? That time has long been passed...maybe you should advise Ommpa to come up with actual policy?
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:31 AM
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12. Long Been Passed?
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 12:47 AM by Khaotic
So, I take it that you'll be backing your candidate even after Obama receives 50+1 percent of the of the 3,253 democratically selected delegates?

You'll be screaming, "You Go Girl," when she not only after she makes it all about the supers, but you'll be smiling when her campaign goes after the pledged delegates????

You're okay with average non-political people, who are taking time out of their schedules to represent the voters in their precincts, being harassed and pleaded with to defy the primary and caucus results and to walk on the convention floor and vote for someone else????

You're cool with that???

Fuck the guy who earned it? Doesn't matter that he did good throughout the season, he faltered a little in the home stretch and now the second place team goes to the playoffs. Is that cool with you????

Why the fuck have a system at all? Why did we have these primaries and caucuses???

You can replay your Arkansas dream over and over and over and over. It's the only dream so far where Hill earned more than 60%.

Without doing it again and again and again she loses ... that's a fact. Regardless of the MSM, the manufactured "Big Mo" she's supposed to have. Obama gets the nomination.

The only question left is whether she wants to tear the party apart. Well does she???

I'm starting to seriously wonder if she's down with doing exactly that. My gut feeling is that it's hype and that she will bow out when the odds are stacked soooo high that her Arkansas dream isn't happening in any other states.

Props to Hill for winning OH & TX, but MAKE NO MISTAKE, in the Democratic race it matters by how much. She's getting points for getting close, but she's only had ONE 60%+ ringer. Not good enough ... even in horse shoes.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:08 AM
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13. Super Dels
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