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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:27 PM
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Hillary's "public service" from 1986-1992
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:29 PM
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1. Is this the vanguard of the Obama slander machine?
A doggie doodoo.
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:34 PM
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3. What is slanderous about reporting the facts of her past?
You don't even know the meaning of the word "slander" do you?

I guess it's true that the less educated support Hillary.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:36 PM
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5. then, certainly the terminally rude and obnoxious support her rival here
on this thread.
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:41 PM
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9. Hey, I learned that negative campaigning works
Guess who I learned it from.
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politicks Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:50 PM
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16. It's sad.
It really does work. Obama should tare into her. If she still wins, she'll be stronger for it.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:47 PM
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12. Takes one to know one.
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:51 PM
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17. Maybe this will help sweetie
slander (http://definr.com/slander)

n 1: words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another
2: the act of defaming
v : charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good
name and reputation of someone; "The journalists have
defamed me!" The article in the paper sullied my
reputation" calumniate, smear, sully, besmirch]

http://definr.com/

Waiting to hear how I slandered Ms Hillary...
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:37 PM
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6. It's so weak it it needs a wheelchair. It's a joke.
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:43 PM
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10. Looks like Hillary supporter's lack of education is no tragedy
Doesn't look like they have much potential anyway.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:45 PM
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11. High and mighty!
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 08:46 PM by The_Casual_Observer
Didn't take but a few minutes to start with the personal insults! You stand for shit!
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:49 PM
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15. You still haven't explained how I slandered Hillary
Waiting...
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politicks Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:52 PM
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18. You didn't.
He's just trying to turn people against you.
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:59 PM
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23. Thanks politicks
eom
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:51 PM
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34. you didn't slander HRC. It's just that her some of her
followers are willfully ignorant and can't be bothered with those pesky little things like facts!

Since they can't handle the truth or the facts, they make accusations of dirty politics and slander. Perhaps I should say they PROJECT too much.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:30 PM
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30. Not true anymore, babycakes...
The curve has gone down since Maryland and Hillary is getting 50% of the college graduates lately. The so-called "educated" only vote in large numbers for BO in sporatic pockets in some states and it isn't significant enough to say "all" the more educated voters vote for Barack anymore.

Guess the big brains are becoming less enthralled with Mr. Obama.

I get pretty sick of all this class distinction and the "my dad is better than your dad" mentality. To put people into categories like you just did is the height of snobbery and tells me a lot about you personally.



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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:07 PM
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35. 20% of the people in Ohio who said race is a factor voted for Clinton
That's some demographic she attracts--the Archie Bunkers of society.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:01 AM
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41. Only 20%, gee that's low.
How do you explain 86% of all African-Americans voting for Obama in every state that has a substantial black population?

I guess that doesn't mean anything.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:39 PM
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7. What part of that do you dispute?
Can you justify your use of the term "slander"?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:30 PM
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2. At least you put the inaccurate part in quotes.
So many DU posts are just flat out bullshit. So she took a job on a company board when that company was actually pretty damn popular and advertising that they only sold American products? Scandalous, lol.
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:35 PM
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4. And served on the board of a company that busts unions
Sorta glossed over that part eh?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:39 PM
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8. And got them to change their hiring practices regarding women in management
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:48 PM
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13. Wrong, their hiring practices remained the same regard women
Show evidence of your claim.
You can't.
Because you're wrong.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:25 PM
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39. I responded in post 36
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:54 PM
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20. She said she would, but did she?
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:03 PM
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24. WOW. Sounds like they're horrible to women at Walmart
Thanks for the links anigbrowl.

"LARGEST GENDER DISCRIMINATION IN HISTORY

*
On June 19, 2001 current and former female Wal-Mart employees filed a massive nationwide sex discrimination class action lawsuit in U. S. District Court against Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (Case No.: C 01-2252 MJJ). The suit is seeking class action status that will make it the largest class action lawsuit ever—with well over 1 million participants.
*
The suit charges that Wal-Mart discriminates against its female employees in promotions, compensation and job assignments. It claims that women are predominately assigned to the lowest paying positions and are systematically denied advancement opportunities.*"

http://www.ufcw.org/take_action/walmart_workers_campaign_info/facts_and_figures/walmartandwomen.cfm

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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:25 PM
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38. They really, really have been.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:22 PM
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36. Your NYT article, written to marginalize her efforts at Wal-mart, discusses it.
"...Early in her tenure, she pressed for information about the number of women in Wal-Mart’s management, worrying aloud that the company’s hiring practices might be discriminatory.

The data she received would have been troubling: by 1985, there was not a single woman among the company’s top 42 officers, according to “In Sam We Trust,” the 1998 book about Wal-Mart by Bob Ortega.

John E. Tate, who served as a director with Mrs. Clinton from 1988 to 1992, recalled that by her third board meeting Mrs. Clinton had announced “that you can expect me to push on issues for women. You know that. I have a reputation of trying to improve the status of women generally, and I will do it here.”

Mr. Walton appeared relieved to have a woman on the board to deflect criticism, telling shareholders during the annual meeting in 1987 that the company had a “strong-willed young lady on the board now who has already told the board it should do more to ensure the advancement of women.”

Still, the board’s discussions did not translate into significant progress. By the late 1990s, after Mrs. Clinton had left the board, Wal-Mart had added a second female director, but the number of women in senior management remained paltry, according to company records..."

~~~
The reference above talks about women on the baord and in senior management positions, not the increase in other areas of management. I need to dig through bookmarks to find the site which discusses the percentage of actual increase in women in management during that time. It's Wal-mart, so you already know the increase isn't huge, but it did increase.

I'll find the link and post it asap.


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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:55 PM
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21. Not according to the video
Do you have a link to support the claim?
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:41 PM
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33. No she promised change but failed to deliver
Harbinger of things to come?

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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:24 PM
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37. I responded in post 36
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:58 PM
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22. What company in the USA doesn't want to bust unions?
there ain't one. She didn't personally set that policy and it was not within her power to change it. She did have a moderating effect on that board based on stories I have read. You ask for the impossible.
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:05 PM
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26. I don't ask for the impossible
I ask for the law to be observed and enforced.
Unions are protected under US law.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:06 PM
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27. Are you going to cite some illegal action
or just leave that unsubstantiated smear hanging?
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:23 PM
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28. What smear?
Unions and union organizing is protected by law in the US.
That's what the national labor relations board is supposed to be for.
The NLRB has to sue Walmart for their union busting:

"Wal-Mart's war on its workers claimed its latest victims in Aiken, South Carolina where the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) is prosecuting Wal-Mart for waging an illegal, systematic union-busting campaign against workers. The NLRB is also charging Wal-Mart for violations of federal law in Palestine and Jacksonville, Texas."
http://www.union-network.org/unisite/Sectors/Commerce/Multinationals/Wal-Mart_union_busting_operator_named_for_threatening_workers.htm

Again, what smear?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:27 PM
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29. Answer from rosetta: No. nt
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:31 PM
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31. What smear? What smear? What smear? What smear?
Called your bluff.
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politicks Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:49 PM
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14. LOL! Funny!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:53 PM
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19. Hillary: "One of the reasons we want to buy America is because we love America"
Wha'? :crazy:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:04 PM
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25. wow, she was in some kind of cult
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:34 PM
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32. The mother of them all, MO's thesis, Racial Divide
Which has been locked up at the library until after the GE and people, including me have a copy of it. Good read I might say and why we can understand what she meant by "I'm finally proud of america".
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:25 PM
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40. You don't think there is a racial divide?
I've been watching the media report on it ever since this primary started.
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