Hillary Campaign "Op" on Tweety says she needs to do more to"Slap Up Obama!"

[KoKo]

OOPS! ...Sorry...REWIND THAT ONE:

Obama Spokesperson, Ed Gordon who is host of "World of Black Enterprise" told Chris Matthews on MSNBC tonight that: "BARACK needs to 'slap up Hillary,' more!

I thought Obama Folks were saying Hillary was FIGHTING DIRTY?

What the heck does "SLAP UP HILLARY MORE" mean?

Are Obama's OP'S now going in to advocating "SLAPPING UP FEMALES?"

That's how I saw it...and the guy seemed to be a JERK from his other comments. :shrug:

[skooooo]

1. Maybe you'll like Hillary's cute little statement to...

..Joe Scarborough. She was on his show and said she is thinking about asking him (Joe) to be her running mate.

CHARMING, Hillary.

[Kittycat]

3. Personally... She had me at pandering to McLame.

[Fredda Weinberg]

2. Yes, I caught that. He was rebuked by the female panel member

And reminded of the sensitivity of older women voters. I say, it's the reason we fought for the sufferage.

[KoKo]

6. You mean a bunch of "old lady crones" had a VOICE in that? I didn't see that...

I saw the two females deferring to Ed Gordon... Maybe they didn't want to "take him on." It was :puke:

[katty]

4. Slap?! o, nice going...very classy of them

[OzarkDem]

5. Advocating violence against women

talk about playing into racial stereotypes. They had better put a muzzle on that guy.

I'm really shocked that Obama is such a sore loser he resorts to this kind of stuff. Do we really want this guy trying to negotiate peace in the ME? Hell no. He would be no better than Bush.

[KoKo]

8. That's what flagged me.. Obama's folks saying Clintons are pushing "Sex and Race" and some

guy whose head of some Black Entertainment Group advocates "Slapping Hillary up more?"

Sheesh....I feel I'm going back to some dark time in our history. I can't believe that this sexist shit is going on...and coming out of our first viable African-American Candidate's Camp of Supporters.

:shrug: What is going on here?

[OzarkDem]

10. A**holes, there's no way I would trust Obama

That kind of stuff, like the rest of the garbage he spews, is beyond the pale.

Can you imagine the outrage in this forum if Bush or one of his cronies said something like that? But coming from Obama, his supporters think its just fine.

[KoKo]

12. I know...I think that Obama's supporters have hired all our RW Foes...and are using their Playbook..

there was another Obama Op on earlier who sounded just like Ken Mehlman ...but I didn't get his name written down so couldn't post about him. He sounded like every RW Bush Bot pushing Obama in terms that we who have been watching all this for years on DU would flag immediately as RW RoboTalk. It made we want to barf...but I'd just gotten home and trying to cook dinner...and I almost hurled...:-(

[OzarkDem]

14. The similarities to GOP tactics is very disturbing

I'm shocked his campaign would resort to hiring these people, it goes against everything our party stands for.

[KoKo]

18. I think that there are many who are attaching their Hopes for Stars to his coat tails...

and it goes way beyond those of us who want to see the Civil Rights Movement finally succeed. It might succeed in ways we never imagined..because it "morphed" into something that MLK and his supporters...weren't envisioning...but it's the natural flow of success.

It just means we all can't be as "romantic" about our past and the 60's and 70's that we have been. (those of us who have lived through that and are "by nature" idealists.) :-( This is a NEW WORLD...and we need to deal with it all in CURRENT TERMS...with what we are faced with as the fruition...for all the warts and ambitions. :shrug:

[NashVegas]

21. Obama's People Have Been Using GOP Tactics All Along

Starting with the 1984 video.

[KoKo]

48. What 1984 video....can you give more info? n/t

[NashVegas]

57. I'm Sure You Recall This?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

======

It was done by someone under Obama's ad agency's employ, allegedly on his own time, and he was relieved of his position. If you listen closely you'll be struck by the message of ye old rugged individualism v socialism.

[KoKo]

60. Thanks for link....I missed that one... n/t

[tishaLA]

11. How is violence against women a "racial stereotype"?

It seems to me that violence against women is something practiced primarily by men, but that the men who do it have no particular color. Perhaps you can elaborate on the racial dynamics of violence against women for me.

[OzarkDem]

15. Make it a two-fer then

add gender stereotyping, too.

[tishaLA]

17. Again, how is it racial stereotyping?

Everyone recognizes violence against women, almost by definition, as a gender-based crime. How is it racial stereotyping?

[NOLALady]

51. Because other races are not violent towards

women.

[KoKo]

22. I said in my post that I though Obama was "above all this" and accusing Hillary of a dirty campaign.

I said nothing about "racial stereotyping" in that post. I asked what would it seem to Obama supporters if they heard a Hillary Campaign Op was urging them to "Slap Obama Around, more."

But...it wasn't a Hillary supporter saying that...it was Ed Gordon saying "Obama needs to slapp Hillary around, more." This person was speaking for OBAMA and not Hillary. It wasn't "racial sterotyping" but advocating "violence against women."

:shrug: You can go to MSNBC and get the tape from Matthews Show...it was ugly. Gordon said other ugly stuff before that...but I was cooking dinner and didn't get it written down yet...but I dropped everything when he said "slapp Hillary around" and got my pen and wrote it down on the back of my recipe I was so outraged.

Obama needs to ditch this guy...if he's serious. Ed Gordon.

[tishaLA]

25. You'll notice I responded to someone other than you...

so the question about racial stereotyping was not directed toward you, but toward someone else. Although, for the record, it is inaccurate to call Ed Gordon an Obama spokesperson; he is an Obama supporter.

[KoKo]

29. Gordon was "speaking for Obama"...so Obama needs to ditch him...

as for the wrong answer...sorry...but I answered what you said even though your post was addressed to another person...it deserved another answer.

[tishaLA]

31. OK, so you make two mistakes and

still blame me.

1. I wasn't responding to you
2. Gordon is a supporter, not a spokesperson.

And no, you didn't answer the question about how violence against women is "racial stereotyping." But that's really because it's not and to suggest it is, frankly, is race-baiting if not something even more scurrilous.

[KoKo]

35. Because you are making an "argument" that's specious..and not in my OP..

[tishaLA]

37. And that's why I didn't reply to you, but to the person who asserted

that violence against women was a "racial stereotype." Again, this is not something asserted in your OP, although you did mistakenly call Mr Gordon an Obama spokesperson.

[KoKo]

40. oyy...okay...sorry about that..n/t

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

7. You can edit the headline as well as the text. n/t

[KoKo]

9. WTF are you talking about? n/t

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

38. Does the headline match the OP... is it a Hillary person or an Obama person?

Sorry. I'm confused.

[KoKo]

42. Read the body of the OP...it was an Obama person...Ed Gordon (Host of Black Enterprise)

speaking on a panel on MSNBC's Matthew's "Hard Ball" show. There were two females on with him.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

45. Gotcha

[tabatha]

13. Throwing the kitchen sink, slapping up ....

this the democrats?

[AtomicKitten]

16. Hillary's VICTIM politics of fighting dirty and hiding behind her gender is bullshit.

[OzarkDem]

23. You condone this kind of talk?

I find it abhorrent in any situation, any time, directed at any woman.

[robbedvoter]

19. "I hope his boot crushes her larynx" - the Audacity of Hope DU way:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4908242&mesg_id=4908269

[AtomicKitten]

24. thanks for the link :)

but you got the quote wrong ... typical of a Clintonite

[KoKo]

33. Oh...dear God...I can't believe that wasn't locked...if this is the way we talk to each other

then I know for sure our country is lost. I'm shocked a long time DU'er would post something like that. And that it's still there is even more shocking ...given that many long time DU'ers (including my own humble self...flub up from time to time).

Boot on her Larynx......

Should we all ARM OURSELVES NOW? Is THIS what OBAMA is bringing to us with his "Hope and Change?" :shrug:

[seabeyond]

54. beat you upside head, kick ass.... geez people, we mouth off shit (not

that real shit is coming out of our mouths) all the fuckin (not that we are fuckin) time.

boot on larynx in no more bigger deal than any of the other stupid shit people are saying. no one is advocating literally causing violence to a "woman". this is going to far on female sensitivity and i have been the first to yell out about sexism.

but koko really, need to chill, and i am not saying throw your ass in an iced pond.

[KoKo]

61. Well...did ya ever thinking of "kicking the habit" of "shit language" that

may be cool between your buddies...but outside that comes off looking like you are too dumb to communicate unless it's in agressive, hostile or demeaning ways?

And, hey...I've seen you be pretty literate around here...so you can do it when you try to...so why act like an uncouth idiot...in your "down time." Doesn't it get stale? :shrug:

[seabeyond]

64. because i want to. and if you want it to mean that i am hostile aggressive or dumb

it is your way. i prefer to be out of the box. the fact is i am an old woman so far from being cool with the friends. a piece of me who i am. the good girl with this little bad. and with all the kick ass and the rest, people pretty much know from minute one i dont do demeaning for any reason and take it in the spirit. i probably cuss simply because of the people that tell me it makes me come off looking dumb, when in fact all evidence is contradictive to that assumption and makes a person have to actually expand and see a person beyond some words.

i do that in a lot of ways with myself. if you want the obvious with me, inevitably a person will be wrong. have to free up the brain, be flexible to get a more accurate read. just who i am

the reason sharing so much of this,

i have seen a lot of sexist bullshit on media with hillary. pisses me off (ya aggressive and i would get mouth washed out with piss when i was a kid). but because we may be against a person, we have a greater responsibility to not jump on every word to make them look bad and go after the real stuff. too much people dont see the bullshit they are saying or the media is saying and this is too big of stuff.

[Hoof Hearted]

34. How utterly disgraceful. I can't BELIEVE that's been allowed to stand.

Just revolting.

[KoKo]

36. There used to be a DU "rule" about "urging violence" against Candidates

and fellow DU'ers... I guess with everything in these times...that rule is no longer applicable. :eyes:

[AtomicKitten]

41. It's a quote from "Con Air," but please keep sniveling.

There's nothing like sniveling to convince people you/your candidate are strong independent women!

As long as Hillary continues to fight dirty, she will not be allowed to hide behind her gender. Too bad if that offends your delicate sensibilities.

[KoKo]

43. You want somebody to put a "boot on Hillary's Larynx?" What kind of talk is that?

:shrug:

[AtomicKitten]

49. I LUV the way some of you turn a blind eye to her blatant racism towards Obama (links inside)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4898950&mesg_id=4916852

She has run a disgusting campaign employing all kinds of dirty tricks, and apparently you expect her to be able to remain unscathed hiding behind her gender?

That's VICTIM politics and I'm calling bullshit on that noise.

[Hoof Hearted]

58. Nice change of subject to try to excuse your disgraceful behavior.

You disgust me.

[AtomicKitten]

59. back at ya

I despise weak women that scream "sexism" gratuitously. It sets back women's causes decades. Your kind of whiny sniveling disgusts me.

[Hoof Hearted]

63. Your continual sniveling exuses for hateful, bigoted behavior by yourself and others

reveals you as the apologist of cretinism you are.

[mmonk]

20. It means fight back for those that don't make more out of it than

is there. Feign outrage if you like. Pass around another photo and whisper something to a neighbor or reporter while straightening your halos.

[KoKo]

44. Are you lookin' for a "Street Fight with Guns and Knives?" Isn't that what Bush Thugs would want?

:shrug:

[Hoof Hearted]

26. They just cant stop mixing in their violent sexual misogynistic imagery can they?

How DISGUSTING.

[cottonseed]

27. I reject and denounce slapping up Hillary.

The spokesperson needs to think about his words. No room for any of that on either side.

[Freida5]

28. I agree I don't think Mr. Obama should be slapping anyone.

[OzarkDem]

30. Obama needs to apologize

if he doesn't this will cost him a lot of votes.

[cottonseed]

39. Obama doesn't need to apologize for this.

Ed Gordon can apologize.

[OzarkDem]

46. He should at least denounce it

and make a promise that his campaign will no longer promote such sexist remarks.

[Bongo Prophet]

32. I dedplore such a statement. Pick a better metaphor, ya jerk.

"We have to be tougher", or "fight back" or "match blows" in a boxing ring metaphor maybe.
but slap. no. just . no.


I don't even like sports metaphors at all, (unless i am making them ;)) -- but that is too provocative.

Obama voter here. Not liking it.

[stillcool]

47. Clinton is one female...

who is so deserving of getting slapped down...don't know what slapped up is?

[KoKo]

52. Clinton is one "female so deserving of getting "slapped down?"

Yeah...you are correct...I have no idea the difference between a female getting "slapped up...or slapped down."

Could you inform me of the difference in violence? I'd appreciate it... :eyes: But, I feel ashamed to share the same web space with a neanderthal like you...just so you know...:puke:

BTW...Your "DU PROFILE" says you are "female." Amazing.....that one of my own would advocate shit like this.

[stillcool]

53. anything can get slapped down...

it has nothing to do with violence. Actually a law can get slapped down. I'm sorry you are so ashamed of verbiage. Don't you dare talk to me about violence, or rape. You have no idea who I am, or what I have endured in my life.

[BadgerLaw2010]

50. ...Wow.

[IsItJustMe]

55. A steam roller maybe.

[seabeyond]

56. so.... are the hillary people gonna make things so very fuckin tough for all of us

that shit we would say to a man we cant say to hillary cause it is offensive to female, or advocating violence. one of my favorite saying is kick ass..... i am ot suggesting literally kicking someones ass and we all know that. but now i can say obama kick hillarys ass cause now i am advocating a man beating up a woman

hey..... hillary supporters and hillary, .... you want to be the first woman president, better not want special treatment.

what was it said to jackie robinson the first black in baseball

[KoKo]

62. yeah...maybe we could do better at how we treat each other...ya think?

:shrug: