The ad, the decision not to reveal Clinton tax returns, etc. - A work of genius!

[Cronus Protagonist]

All that outrage over a completely inconsequential item makes the Obama people look like crybabies. And their outrage is everywhere, on the news, on the net, in blogs, on the street!

It's free advertising! Hillary's OPPOSITION are all saying "Clinton did this!" blah blah blah "Clinton won't do that!" - they say Hillary Clinton more often, and with more emotion, than they say their own candidates name! And the snotty attitudes makes most of them appear like smarmy nitwits: like the people in school who ratted on you for having a penknife in your pocket, all the while expecting other people in the class to think they're "good" boys and girls.

And they come across as simply annoying because no one really cares. The "issues" are total bullshit! It makes not a whit of difference to the average American if Hillary releases her tax return or not. No one cares about how dark the "black Obama" video was or how unfair it is of Clinton to go negative, or any of that crap. The people who care about such things are clearly highly partisan and they look like they're clearly not "the sharpest kives on the Christmas tree" either, for not knowing how damned annoying they appear to non-partisans.

Add to that the storm over how BLACK OBAMA looks in HILLARY's AD, how his lips are fatter and his nose broader (FAT LIPS AND NOSE) and his face darker, blacker (BLACK FACE), well darned gosh, he's SO BLACK looking in HILLARY's ad. (One wonders just how black he should be.)


As for the rest of us, let's look into my crystal ball where we can all see the future.... .... ... ... all we want is Bush gone, it's time to vote, and who's running for president? Oh yeah HILLARY CLINTON and that other guy, the one who's always whining about HILLARY CLINTON and he's TOO BLACK or something...

I sometimes wonder if the most fervent Obama "supporters" are really Clinton operatives.


:evilgrin:

[islandmkl]

1. anusamusinus

[Cronus Protagonist]

49. Off topic, what does that mean?

n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

53. Something about an anus.. and then I got lost.

:shrug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

2. I guess a candidate that is losing cannot afford to show their tax returns if same are

filled with horror stories that would cause people to be further against her.

[Cronus Protagonist]

8. Even in this thread, you carry the meme

I don't think you understood the OP.

:)

[Sarah Ibarruri]

12. I carry only my fit bod. And Hillary is behaving like the GOPer she was

in the 60s when she was president of Young Republicans and campaigned for Goldwater and other Repukes.

[Cronus Protagonist]

17. Good work on behalf of the Clinton campaign

I'm just flabberghasted you would do it in this thread, that's all.

What was that about Hillary again? Tell us more about Her. We need to know. We demand to know more about Hillary!!

[Sarah Ibarruri]

22. I didn't lie did I? These are facts, you can google them yourself if it's not too much

trouble

[Cronus Protagonist]

24. You forgot to mention Her name... what should I google?

Obam... no wait... Clinton.. what?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

46. Google yourself. I think you're the most important person in your life. :) nt

[Cronus Protagonist]

47. I hope so, but I don't need to google that.

n/t

[yardwork]

52. Another example of the OP's point.

Psst. Nobody really thinks that anybody's tax return contains "horror stories," least of all a politician as savvy as HRC. She's been around the block a couple times. There's not going to be anything interesting in her tax return.

People expect politicians to cheat on their taxes and real estate deals - that's why nobody cares about Rezko whatsisname. People expect politicians' tax returns to be (a) boring and (b) withheld just for the hell of it, mostly because they're attorneys and they don't release documents unless they're subpoenaed or something.

There's nothing in Hillary's tax return of interest. She's withholding it because she does that - she's stubborn that way. There's nothing interesting in Obama's dealings with Rezko either. A politician benefited from his friendship with a crook. Yawn.

[merwin]

3. Uh oh, Cronus

You're going to stir the Obama crowd here if you keep talking like that. :)

[Cronus Protagonist]

6. haha, I know....

Why do you hate black people...????? and lots of invective, but hey, it's only entertainment anyway. :P

[tabatha]

4. empty post

[JBoy]

28. Not quite.

There is elaborate use of bolding and underlining. For emphasis.

[Cronus Protagonist]

37. That was necessary in order to not have the thread shut down

Some people can't tell when you attack an idea as opposed to a person so, on DU, one must be clear.

[still_one]

5. I am sure YOUR candidate will vote for mccain if Obama gets the nomination

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P21PRmUzN-A

[Cronus Protagonist]

10. Hahaha, you almost make me laugh

My candidate is Dennis and he will surely NOT vote for McCain. As for Hillary, she will also vote for the Democratic candidate as she has stated in the past. We don't know Obama's position on this matter, but his wife clearly has doubts that she would vote for the Democratic nominee if it were not her husband. I guess she's not a Democrat, she's an Obamanian.

:P

[still_one]

14. I don't trust anything that comes out of the Clintons. I won't vote for mccain

and I won't vote for Hillary who effectively endorsed mccain over Obama

You have every right to do as you wish, and so do I, and that is MY message to her and her campaign, if she get the nomination she won't get my vote in the general election

[Cronus Protagonist]

21. So you want Predient McCain then?

Because that's what you will be voting for if you don't vote against Him.

I guess your principles are worth more than the lives of yours and our children. I don't agree with your choice, but as you say, it is yours to make. I don't know why you are a member of Democratic Underground if you won't vote Democratic.

[still_one]

30. nope, and I don't want clinton either, view it anyway you wish. I have

heard enough Clinton supporters saying much the same thing, and I took your position for the last several months, but when that video came out, that did it for me

Don't worry, my vote won't matter one way or another, very little has also been done in that regard since the 2000 election


I wish you well however

[Owl]

44. So you want Predient McCain then?

"Because that's what you will be voting for if you don't vote against Him."

Baloney.

[yardwork]

54. Really? It's going to be a close election. The rethugs will cheat, as usual.

They'll rig the machines and block people from voting and do the things they do to steal the vote. Every Democratic vote will matter. We need to make sure that the election isn't too close to be stolen again.

I wouldn't dream of failing to vote for the Democratic nominee, whomever it is. Seriously, it could be a yellow dog and it would have my vote.

In 2000 a lot of people said that there was "no difference" between Gore and chimpy, and look what we got. I hope we don't make that mistake again.

[KittyWampus]

18. nothing sadder than a self-deluded DU'er pretending to be neutral. Except maybe a DU'er

that thinks they're way wittier than they actually are.

[Cronus Protagonist]

23. hahahaa, thanks doc!

By the way, your mind-reading skills are up to par, way out of the ball park, as usual, and that surely is a crying shame. :P

[bigtree]

7. thanks for this

I would have wasted a post and not have laid it down nearly as well as you have here.

"no one really cares" Bingo.

[Cronus Protagonist]

13. My work as a hypnotist gave me "spidey sense" when people are being manipulated

The subconscious, seat of emotions, does not understand language, so you have to read between the lines a bit to discover the real message of some of thse sophisticated ad campaigns. Oh, and I work in advertising too :)

[bigtree]

19. we won ugly with her husband

we probably can't win unless the Democratic campaign knows how to fight dirty and doesn't hem and haw about it.. All the handwringing over the tactics is hilarious. Obama looks like a rube today.

[anigbrowl]

31. Bookmarking!

Thank you for your contribution.

[bigtree]

33. of course, we'll give em heck

and they'll claim it's hell (like Obama)

[blm]

63. Baloney - Bush1 NEEDED To lose in 92 to avoid being totally exposed by impeachment.

Bushies expected impeachment after the release of BCCI report in Dec 1992.

Poppy ran the worst campaign in history and Jackson Stephens set up his boy from Arkansas to get the Dem nomination and he proceeded to deep-six all BCCI's outstanding matters throughout the 90s for GHWBush, Jackson Stephens, Dubai and Saudi royals, AQ Khan, Marc Rich, Bin Ladens, Adnan Khasoggi and many more BFEE operatives.

[Straight Shooter]

26. Ooooh, did someone say "hypnotist"? Ladies and gentlemen, may I present ....

HYPNOBAMA!

[Cronus Protagonist]

38. lol n/t

[ClassWarrior]

9. Fearmongering. Chronic secrecy. Just what we need in a President again.

NGU.

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. Probably Hillary is going to outdo rove & release the returns & there

will be nothing to it.

[Cronus Protagonist]

15. I agree, and She'll do it when she gets the most bang out of it

And the fun thing about it is, it will be on Her timetable, her decision. Once the Hillary fever builds up to a pregnant boil, she'll pop it and everyone will laugh at the nutty complainers and be soooo pleased with Hillary for shutting the complainers up.... it's masterful. 21st century advertising is ingenious.

[CyberPieHole]

16. Great post and spot on. Kick and recommend...

won't sit well with the Obama croud...but **** 'em.

[msallied]

20. Sort of a random thought...

But is there anything more hypocritical than a Democrat who fudges his/her taxes? Or of a fellow Democrat who thinks it's inconsequential?

The level of cognitive dissonance among Clinton supporters is staggering.

[Cronus Protagonist]

25. Thanks for that post about Clinton

quod erat demonstrandum, you prove my point precisely.

:)

[msallied]

35. Yeah, as in CLINTON is a crook and a liar

Merely mentioning a name isn't enough. Usually it needs to be associated with something. Like 30 years of corruption. An impeachement. And blowjobs.

[Cronus Protagonist]

36. Once again, a contribution in favor of HILLARY CLINTON

We ARE all talking about who? ....... oh yeah, CLINTON!!

:P

[msallied]

41. My god you are thick.

[Cronus Protagonist]

43. One of us is, I wonder which?

I'm betting on you.

:P

[msallied]

45. Your logic is flawed and your game has been exposed.

Have fun at the kids table.

[Cronus Protagonist]

48. Thanks Pop!

I'm surprised someone would willingly act so arrogantly, but I suppose you have your reasons.

[LiberalAndProud]

62. See #60.

boomerang

[bigtree]

27. so, you've seen the returns?

the bullshit of the Obama camp is escalating.

[msallied]

34. Tell you what...

Given the shady history of the Clintons regarding money, and the fact that the returns haven't been shown yet, I have to say I'm pretty goddamn suspicious.

Oh but you're probably right. I'm sure that they're squeaky clean, those Hillary Clinton tax records. Like pretty much every Clinton dealing over the last 30 years.
:sarcasm:

[Cronus Protagonist]

39. "Clinton" = Twice --- "HIllary Clinton" = Once

Good work, comrade. Did I mentione Hillary Clinton myself twice there?

:P

(the sarcasm wasn't lost on me, but I predict someone will not notice it)

[yardwork]

58. Of course they're squeaky clean! Do you think that HRC is stupid?

Do you really think that a politician as seasoned as Hillary is going to have something look fishy on her tax returns? No way.

[yardwork]

57. What I hear in your post is this:

...Democrat....Democrat....Clinton.....

That's the OP's point. In a primary there is no such thing as bad press. The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.

[Cronus Protagonist]

64. You got it!

From some of the responses here I was beginning to think my point went way over their heads. At least some people DID get it.. like you! :P

[seabeyond]

29. well, rush limbaugh and hte others would say the same when bush did dirty politics

or they used the swiftboats to lie about kerry's military. all that may be good politics to you, but your post is right there with the republicans.

[cui bono]

32. what an idiotic post.

[Cronus Protagonist]

40. Thanks for kicking these posts about Hillary Clinton

I really apprecaite it.

:P

[Cronus Protagonist]

42. I don't see enough "ignored" comments yet, please try to do better n/t

[bvar22]

50. Your opinion is nice, but doesn't matter anymore.

What matters is THIS reality:

Obama WILL go to the convention with the MAJORITY of pledged delegates.

No wishful thinking or negative posts about Obama or his supporters will change this fact.

[Cronus Protagonist]

65. Pledges are just pledges, not unchangeable votes

What matters is who is most electible at the time of the convention. Pledges are nice, but that's not the same as an actual vote.

[yardwork]

51. LOL! These are very good points, actually.

Add to this, the incredible folding of some of the supposed Obama supporters here yesterday. I've never witnessed such wimpiness, such fair weather fans, such.....giving up when your candidate has a slight setback.

[OzarkDem]

55. Ken Starr must be so proud of Obama

[snappyturtle]

56. Slimeball, evasive genius. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

59. Clinton has been sniveling about the process every step of the way.

1. internet crybaby

Internet Crybaby - A person who disagrees with something they see, read, or stumble upon while browsing the internet. Upon feeling this disagreement, internet crybabies typically express that disagreement under their online alias by using their keyboard when they otherwise would not have expressed such distaste in person. Internet Crybabies typically forget what they were crying abount after a month or two have passed as this is their nature. When pressed further to give sufficient evidence for their opinions, Internet Crybabies typically resort to cliche and meaningless statements to divert your attack. Though Internet Crybabies raise valid points with their html, the delivery of those points often show that they have no idea what they're talking about. Internet crybabies can be found in forums, Blogs, online journals, and friendship networking sites.

"Have you read Steve69's latest Blog on Bush's plan to remove Social Security?"

"Yeah, he's an internet crybaby."

[LiberalAndProud]

60. It would be wise for you to compare the candidates' websites.

Now what is it you were saying?

[bunnies]

61. Thats an interesting interpretation of the word "genius".

I believe Obama supporters set the bar quite a bit higher.