Since Obama loved Reagans policies is he planning another 'trickle down theory'?

[Seeker30]

Sorry, I don't want another Reagan era.

[Cant trust em]

1. Isn't this, like, 6 weeks old at this point? nt

[papau]

9. ? the cut corporate taxes and reduce regulations remains an Obama plan

[Cant trust em]

16. The cutting of corporate taxes is for companies who do business here

and eliminating tax cuts for companies who ship jobs overseas. Also in every debate he's talked about the lack of oversight as one of GWB's biggest problems. The line is something like "the housing crisis isn't an inevitable part of the business cycle. It was a failure of the administration in Washington." Or something like that.

[roguevalley]

39. this thread is beyond the pale. we have all officially lost our minds

JOHN EDWARDS!!! WHERE ARE YOU!!!

[Cant trust em]

45. I'm for Al.

I like Obama, but if Gore hopped into the race I'd drop Barack like, well, a rock.

[roguevalley]

52. me too. did you read the huffingtonpost.com today? Clinton has

compared Barak to Ken Starr.

She from Lazio onward demanded full disclosure of tax returns. Obama gave them last year. She is hiding a lot of income from tyrants and lobbyists and the like.

Also, this is from Talking points memo:

Seems the NAFTAgate leak started with -- surprise, surprise -- the Chief of Staff to Canada's conservative PM Stephen Harper. Only the first hint wasn't about stuff the Canadians had heard from the Obama camp. It was about reassurances the Canadians got from the Clinton campaign. According to a reporter who heard the original conversation, Brodie said "someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. . . That someone called us and told us not to worry."

Only somehow this evolved into a story about the Obama campaign giving such reassurances.

The Globe and Mail has the latest details.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080305.wharpleak0305/BNStory/National/home

So was Hillary bashing Obama for what her own campaign had done? Did they both do it? Was it all a set up? I think the overarching story here is that friendly governments should not interfere in our elections.

Hillary Clinton is beyond the pale.

[roguevalley]

53. me too. especially after this:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080305.wharpleak0305/BNStory/National/home

[FrenchieCat]

47. No, he's offering the opposite, from the ground up.......

if you hadn't heard.

[Cant trust em]

50. I think you misposted

Sounds like your response is to the OP, not mine.

[BeatleBoot]

2. You mean "Trickle On" Theory

[tridim]

3. No. You wasted a post for that?

[surfermaw]

4. Last night or today , he mentioned Reagan...something that isn't helping him

he might pick up ind. in primary but come Nov the rep. will be voting McCain

[anonymous171]

5. Man, you're funny.

Educate yourself.

[Seeker30]

6. Not trying to be funny, Obama keeps praising Reagan

That doesnt concern you?

[anonymous171]

8. He didn't praise his ideas.

Just the way Reagan energized the nation. You can't deny that he did that.

[amborin]

48. Obama did praise Reagan's ideas...

Obama spoke of the entrepreneurialism....

entrepreneur is just a sanitized word for capitalist

and Reagan was all for advancing their interests over workers....that's the essence of reaganomics

[damonm]

62. You did not read what Obama said about reagan...

You do not know what you are talking about, and are therefore DISQUALIFIED.

[cui bono]

7. If you're that far behind on the smears that have been debunked

you shouldn't post about it on a message board.

[Seeker30]

10. He mentioned again last night how great Reagan was

Do you not listen to him or are you so star struck you can't think straight when he speaks?

[cui bono]

63. Where have you seen me be star struck?

I'm no Obama supporter, but I'm sick of the Hillbots and her smearing him with lies.

[bowens43]

11. Are lies all that you people have left?

Truely pathetic.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

12. Didn't say he " loved Reagans policies". no no no he didn't say

that.

[Seeker30]

15. What exactly did he say then?

Are you denying he mentioned Reagans name last night in his speech?

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. You're saying Reagan's name right now

Does that mean that YOU loved Reagan's policies?

Post a quote or be a liar. Doesn't really matter to me one way or the other.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

19. How in the hell by mentioning Reagan's name made him love his

policies, I've heard him say that Reagan had a style that Americans liked, when Reagan lied to them, they believed it.

[Telly Savalas]

36. You mentioned Reagan in your post. You must love Reagan too.

[Spider Jerusalem]

13. And Hillary cites Margaret Thatcher as a role model...

how would that influence her policies as president? Could we expect further erosion of labour unions and more belligerent militarism?

[Danger Mouse]

14. I call bullshit. Provide evidence that he said specifically

that he 'loved ronald reagans' policies.
I'm waiting.

[Danger Mouse]

18. Well? No evidence? No link? Nothing to back it up?

That's what i thought.

[Seeker30]

20. Here's your link, now are you going to still say he didnt praise Reagan?

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=XVf4ZYOYgeY

[Spider Jerusalem]

21. Hillary has praised Margaret Thatcher.

Care to defend that?

[Danger Mouse]

25. He mentioned Reagan in reference to foreign policy.

Basically, saying that Reagan met with our enemies and conducted diplomacy.
Uh...didn't Reagan, you know, do that?

[Seeker30]

27. Hahaha! You said 'Provide evidence that he loved ronald reagans' policies.'

And yet you still defend it.

If he wasnt praising his policies then what the fuck was he doing?

[Danger Mouse]

29. He was acknowledging that presidents meet with our enemies and conduct diplomacy.

That's not evidence that he 'loved reagan's policies.'

[Danger Mouse]

So...your argument is absolutely empty.

Just as I thought.

[Cant trust em]

26. Here is the text from the speech.

You're going to hang your argument on this?

"It's the same course that continues to divide and isolate America from the world by substituting bluster and bullying for direct diplomacy – by ignoring our allies and refusing to talk to our enemies even though Presidents from Kennedy to Reagan have done just that; because strong countries and strong leaders aren't afraid to tell hard truths to petty dictators."

http://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/2008/03/barack-obamas-speech-in-san-antonio.html

[Seeker30]

31. Again, why does he continually praise Reagan?

Did you think Reagan was great also?

[Cant trust em]

32. no, but I'm not dumb enough to think

that everything he says is garbage. "Mr. Gorbachev. Tear down this wall."

Not bad.

I know this is DU and I'm supposed to think that everything Republican is 100% evil, but I'm more willing to settle on 90% evil. No I don't love Reagan and am not a freeper. But the mere mention of his name doesn't send me running for the hills.

[Seeker30]

33. I see, so Obama and his followers believe Reagan talked Gorby into tearing down the wall?

Is this what you're saying?

[Danger Mouse]

34. Don't distort what he said.

He said he agreed with something reagan said.
And though he did a lot of evil things, not everything he did was evil.

[Cant trust em]

35. I'm saying that it was a pretty cool sound byte.

Shows good leadership. BTW, I can't speak for other Obama supporters. I am but one man.

[Seeker30]

37. Thats fine, but the original point is that he praised Reagan..AGAIN

At first you all deny it, then try to defend it. Why can't you just admit thats what he did?

Seriously, I'm not trying to stir shit, but this is the second time (that I'm aware of) that he's made remarks praising Reagan and to be honest I liked Obama until his first remarks. There is no fucking I would ever support a candidate that thinks Reagan was great.

[Danger Mouse]

38. Well I denied it till I saw the evidence.

And I still deny that he 'praised' Reagan. You're the one who has been distorting this over and over.

[Cant trust em]

44. praising reagan and saying he's great are two different things

I don't deny that he praised Reagan. Obviously he made some nice remarks. But I don't think that he thinks Reagan was greatMaybe other people deny it, but I don't. I totally see what Obama is saying. I think that he believes in building a coalition to widen your base is great. It attracts more people to your cause. Reagan unified conservatives, but the political idea of a coalition remains the same. Even a broken watch is right twice a day.

[Bluerthanblue]

54. any effective FOREIGN POLICY by it's very nature REQUIRES

discussion-

If you see that statement as "praising Reagan"- you'd better not try and pass 8th grade Social Studies.

:shrug:


You are disingenuous to the max-

"continually praise Reagan"-


:thumbsdown:

[fishwax]

58. that's what you're referring to as praising Reagan?

saying that "presidents from Kennedy to Reagan" have talked to our enemies? :shrug:

[Beregond2]

22. Reagan

He never said he loved his policies, jackass. He was talking about his ability to inspire and be a transformative figure, which he certainly was; for the worse, but that's another story.

[Seeker30]

24. Wrong, he was admiring Reagans foreign policy

Defend his admiration of Reagan all you want, but its more and more apparent he loves Reagan...jackass.

[gristy]

23. And your unexplained and unverified premise is supported by...

what? Inquiring minds want to know.

[thevoiceofreason]

28. Maybe, assuming Clinton intends to mimic her hero, John McCain's foreign policy

[cooolandrew]

30. Barack was highlighting Reagans unity something Obama's campaign shows more of in itself.

Reagan did once have unity explain Reagan democrats....

[davidinalameda]

40. welcome to DU

now go back under your bridge

[Seeker30]

42. About time you welcome me after 4 years

Guess I havent been under the bridge for a while

[davidinalameda]

43. I've been cruising freeperville for about the same length of time

[Seeker30]

46. You and the rest of the Reagan lovers

:rofl:

[apocalypsehow]

41. "Sorry, I don't want another Reagan era." Uh-huh - something about your OP tells me this is false.

n/t.

[cali]

49. Stupid is as stupid does and hillbots seem to do a lot of fucking

moronic. He never praised Reagan's policies. Ever. Saying so makes you a flat out...

[Bluerthanblue]

51. liar- he didn't say he 'loved Reagans policies"- PROOF????

without proof, you are no better, - no, not as good as the "National Enquirer"-

Put up, or be quiet-

peace~

[angie_love]

55. just shut up

[ProSense]

56. Obama didn't say anything about loving Reagan, but Hillary did

Hillary on Reagan: He played the balance and the music beautifully.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

57. Why distort what Obama said to make a point? Just shows the weakness of your argument.

[lmbradford]

59. What he praised was..

how Reagan talked with foreign leaders when others before him hadn't and got results.......and how he brought swing voters (independents) to his side by being willing to listen to their concerns.......in case you missed it that is what Obama is doing as well. And for the record, Obama believes in bottom UP economics not trickle down. Geez...don't you guys ever read his policies and ideas. The people on this board are suppose to be the junkies and it's obvious that so many of you know nothing about the 300 pages of policy that Obama has put out there for our benefit. Then we true junkies have to hear day in and day out about how he has no substance. It is actually people on this board who don't take the hour to go read who have no substance. RANT OVER....Geez!

[redqueen]

60. He didn't love his policies. (nt)

[amborin]

61. and the Obamas donated less to charity than the state average for their income levels

not very caring for the less fortunate

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

64. "That is not the case"

"When Senator Clinton or President Clinton asserts that I said
that the Republicans had had better economic policies since 1980, that
is not the case."

- B.O., S.C. debate.

Maybe you should pay a little more attention.

[Orangepeel]

65. Congratulations! You said something idiotic and got a flaming post!

Woo hoo!
:woohoo:
:thumbsup: