I propose that my fellow Obama supporters leave GD:P till we have a nominee.

[ClassWarrior]

Let the Clinton defenders have the forum. Let 'em think they've got it all wrapped up. Let 'em bicker amongst themselves about their favorite fear tactics.

We have more important things to do. I propose that each of us devote at least half of the time we'd otherwise spend here doing phone banking, or some other important volunteering, for Obama.

Who's with me?

NGU.

[Maddy McCall]

1. I second this proposal.

:P

[0007]

7. Have a toke

[Maddy McCall]

12. Have a sit.

[LostinVA]

70. ...

:spray:

[ClassWarrior]

152. PHONE BANK FROM THE COMFORT OF HOME... LINK HERE...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[Jamastiene]

120. Priceless.

Where do I go to nominate that one for a DUzy. :rofl: Damn, yer good.

[NDambi]

143. Oooo..I love that toon and it fits so perfectly..thank you for posting

[ClassWarrior]

162. HAVE A PHONE... LINK HERE...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[yourguide]

102. you would...

of course you would.

[anamandujano]

2. Me.

[Maddy McCall]

4. I'm going to K/R this thread.

I think it's a great thread!

:rofl:

[ClassWarrior]

6. Bush** likes echo chambers too.

NGU.

[Maddy McCall]

9. I'm just supporting you in your proposal.

If it's getting to you this much, take a break.

[robbedvoter]

14. Your idea, remember?

[ClassWarrior]

75. It was my idea to do some good...

...for my candidate and Party. But I never said you had to stay.

:shrug:

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

153. PHONE BANK ON YOUR OWN SCHEDULE... LINK HERE...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. Let 'em

[sandnsea]

5. It's a terrific idea

I'm going to have to do more in Oregon as it appears we're going to come down to every vote this time. It would be quite embarrassing to have any surprises here.

[ClassWarrior]

11. You go sandnsea!

Never Give Up.

[anigbrowl]

37. I'm down for spending les time on GDP and more on the phone...

except after contest results, hehe.

[ClassWarrior]

38. No one said we shouldn't lurk.

LOL

And I still plan on visiting the rest of the forums on DU.

:hi:

NGU.

[Name removed]

41. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[ClassWarrior]

148. .

[boppers]

57. Know the Obama Oregon contact numbers, perchance?

I'm in PDX, didn't know it would actually make it this far...

[sandnsea]

59. I have a Eugene contact

I'll dig up what I can and post it in the Oregon forum in the next few days.

[ClassWarrior]

92. .

[Beausoir]

8. Obama would approve.

[maddiejoan]

10. I agree!

That way Hillary supporters can talk about substantive issues.

[spag68]

39. substantive issues

Everyone should be talking about those issues now, who know we might come up with something useful!

[ClassWarrior]

89. That would be novel, wouldn't it? Well, you can talk substansive issues...

...directly with the voters if you volunteer. They're more open to listening, anyway.

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

126. .

[joshcryer]

13. HAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[anamandujano]

52. That laughter is infectious!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Zhade]

15. As someone who doesn't support Obama, but wholly opposes Clinton - bad move.

Her supporters will just continue to lie for her (many of them, anyway), and those lies would go unanswered.

[ClassWarrior]

21. So what? We're not changing any minds here. But we can influence lots of...

...real voters by phone banking and campaigning.

NGU.

[Zhade]

34. You're not changing posters' minds, but maybe some readers are rethinking her.

I do support the idea of more IRL campaigning, though - couldn't hurt your cause.

[ClassWarrior]

35. The few lurkers who aren't turned off by the bullies are pocket change...

...compared to how many an hour of phone calling could convince.

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

42. .

[ClassWarrior]

154. PHONE BANK FOR AS MUCH AS YOU WANT... LINK HERE...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[Jamastiene]

121. Oh, trust me. We are real voters too.

I'd show you my official voting record, but it has my personal info all over it. I have voted in every single election, including local referendums, since I was 18 years old. My vote is going firmly to Hillary.

[ClassWarrior]

127. Case in point O supporters. We're convincing no one of nothin' here.

NGU.

[billyoc]

87. They'll go unanswered because they'll go unread. nt

[bridgit]

16. Yeah, no shit! You guys have been crapping in it long enough don't be a bogart...

Maybe Admin will setup a We're All Way More Important Than Anybody And You Know It forum :bounce:

[Maddy McCall]

19. LOL.

:yourock:

[Cameron27]

131. lol

:thumbsup:

[Phillycat]

133. ...

:rofl:

[Phillycat]

134. ...

:rofl:

[ClassWarrior]

161. PHONE BANK ON YOUR TERMS... IT'S EASY, JUST CLICK HERE...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[Eurobabe]

17. Fuck that noise, I'll stand and fight for Obama until Skinner turns off the last light. n/t

[ClassWarrior]

22. Against people whose minds you'll never change? Why not fight in the real world...

...where it's going to count?

NGU.

[Eurobabe]

28. Well, you see, I live in Europe, so all I can do is

send money. It really sucks that I care so much about my home country.

:sarcasm:

[DLnyc]

18. Not a bad idea. And I think I might be able to find some things in

Pennsylvania to keep me busy for the next six weeks or so.

Actions are better than spin, most times.

[ClassWarrior]

40. Thanks. Rock the Keystone State for us!!

Never Give Up.

[Name removed]

20. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[psychopomp]

23. Hell no! Don't you realize what a valuable megaphone DU is?

Who reads DU? Politics junkies like myself, but also journalists, radio hosts, staffers for various news outlets and blogs and, most importantly, people involved in the Obama campaign itself. They might not post here, but you can bet that they check this site.

:bounce: :hi: :bounce:

[ClassWarrior]

25. And what a wonderful example we're providing for them.

:puke:

NGU.

[psychopomp]

30. Welcome to the anonymous world of teh Internets

It's a political message board and we have bit of a serious troll problem.
:shrug:

If it is peace you need, you might want to check the DU Group for Sen. Obama.

[ClassWarrior]

31. It's not that I need peace, it's that our time could be better spent.

NGU.

[MediaBabe]

24. Sounds like a great idea to me

It would enable those who remain to engage in some decent conversation, explore issues, plan for the general election, etc. without a constant barrage of slurs and slams for a change.

[ClassWarrior]

156. BE THE MEDIA - PHONE BANK FROM HOME... LINK HERE...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[CitizenLeft]

26. or...

..."ignore" is your friend. I can't tell you how much more peaceful it is to turn off those people who contribute nothing to any discussion whatsoever other than continuous non-stop nasty anti-Obama comments and attacks, thread after thread after thread, as if their very lives depended on the next cutthroat comment they can make and how much blood they can shed with it. In any other forum, the argument that you're closing off one side of any discussion, and thereby limiting ideas, would be valid. But not here, not in this toxic atmosphere. There are no ideas from these people, just pure hatred that I'll never understand. The people on my ignore list have absolutely nothing positive to say at all, and I'm the better for it for not having to see that ugly vitriol 24/7.

[ClassWarrior]

27. I don't use ignore. I'm not afraid of others' thoughts. And that still doesn't do anything...

...to help our candidate.

NGU.

[CitizenLeft]

32. I'm not afraid of their "thoughts"

...I don't want to raise my blood pressure by having to get into a back-and-forth ongoing bloodletting argument. It's not worth it. My sanity takes precedence over "their thoughts." I can't stand that ugliness, so I choose not to see it. There's no shame in using "ignore" - that's what it's there for. And I won't apologize for it. You deal with them your way, I'll deal with them mine, and I'll meet you in the middle.

BTW, I'm a new Obama supporter... I'm not even signed up on his site yet. I'm getting there.

[ClassWarrior]

33. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with your solution. But our time...

...could be better spent by convincing actual voters. And once the bullies don't have anyone to bully anymore, they'll leave too.

NGU.

[Jamastiene]

123. The same works for the anti-Hillary vitriol too.

We agree on something then. :evilgrin:

[rodeodance]

29. I support your proposal--great one.

[donheld]

36. If you Vant to Be alone you can always post in the Obama room

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=388

[Kukesa]

112. Thanx, it's calm and peaceful over there. n/t

[RummyTheDummy]

43. I'm not with you

People should fight for their principles....including free speech.

[ClassWarrior]

46. By engaging in pissing matches with bullies? Jefferson would be proud.

:eyes:

NGU.

[apocalypsehow]

48. Sometimes, it is important to out-piss a bully.

n/t.

[ClassWarrior]

50. You haven't dealt with many bullies, have you?

The only way to deal with 'em is to walk away. Tormenting others is their only source of power. If you don't let 'em torment you, they have no power.

NGU.

[apocalypsehow]

55. I don't think we disagree about the nature of bullies. Just on the way to deal with them.

BTW, the "bully" in this thread is the one person at DU I have on "ignore," so I guess I'm following your admonition in practice while preaching otherwise in principle. Go figure. :shrug:

[ClassWarrior]

65. LOL...

Well, at any rate, I hope you can help with the campaign.

NGU.

[FDRoosevelt]

49. Ahhh....not a big Jefferson fan

[ClassWarrior]

79. You're not? Why?

NGU.

[dailykoff]

44. Nah. They'd just claim another phony "mission accomplished,"

Why turn the place over to rhymes with moles?

[ClassWarrior]

47. Let 'em. That's the beauty.

Let 'em congratulate one another about having it in the bag, while we're out on the ground actually winning the thing.

NGU.

[dailykoff]

51. Well, to some extent the internet IS the ground, or part of it.

The perception war is not insignificant. If we did abandon DU, the New York Times would "notice" it and spin it into a story about Obama's collapsing internet support, which CNN would spin into a full-blown tsunami.

[ClassWarrior]

53. Yeah, right.

:rofl:

I wish I had a nickel for every time some DU Kreskin predicted what "would" happen "if" thus-and-such.

Believe me, one hour of phone calls for Obama will produce far more positive results than a week of butting heads with bullies here.

NGU.

[dailykoff]

54. Well, I predicted that Hillary would pull a New Hampshire in Ohio

and maybe Texas

[ClassWarrior]

140. .

[Name removed]

45. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[CoffeeCat]

56. My husband said pretty much the same thing...

The primary is wearing on me and he is concerned about me.

He told me to shut off CNN, stop posting on that ridiculous messageboard and forget about the primary
for a while. He said just as you said...Hillary is going to play dirty and deluded for a while, but
Obama will end up winning.

I agree. This is unhealthy. Clinton is going to spend the remainder of her campaign time acting
like a rabid clown on acid---lying, distorting, insisting that some states don't count while others
are sooooo important, attacking, cherry picking, manipulating, cheating--and whatever else she's got
up that drain pipe on her rancid kitchen sink.

Personally, I've had enough. I think it's gotten to the point of being dysfunctional and sick. This
isn't a campaign anymore. It's a vivisection.

I'm considering unplugging the computer and doing fun things--hanging out at old bookstores, shopping,
organizing, jogging, painting.

Thanks for your post...I need to seriously consider taking some time off.

[ClassWarrior]

60. Thanks Sparkles... I hope campaigning for Obama is among those fun things...

...you're looking forward to doing.

Never Give Up.

[LVjinx]

58. They enjoy causing drama too much

But valient attempt :)

[ClassWarrior]

157. INFO ON PHONE BANKING FROM HOME HERE...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[Catherine Vincent]

61. I think you guys should leave and never come back.

How's that?

[annie1]

139. lol

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

62. You're Absolutely Right. Wise Words.

:thumbsup:

[seabeyond]

63. ya.... time for me to get off computer, (three days on, wow) and get back

to reading my books

[bigtree]

64. seconded

not really. C'mon, stay. You KNOW you want to . . .

[Jim Lane]

66. I'm unable to do that, and here's why...

(Be sure to mouse over my head for an additional comment.)

[ClassWarrior]

71. ROFLMAO...

I know the feeling!! But we need you out here in the real world...

:toast:

Never Give Up, my friend...

NGU.

[goldcanyonaz]

72. I love that graphic!

[Raejeanowl]

83. I Like Your Cartoon

It applies to many of us around here, regardless of candidate. I have to keep reminding myself that life will go on (and is going on) despite ANYTHING that happens here, and especially, despite who has the last word of the moment on any thread topic.

TIME OUT, Y'ALL!

[ClassWarrior]

86. How true.

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

128. .

[Jamastiene]

122. Hell, I'm a Hillary supporter and I liked that one.

I'm sooo stealing it. :rofl:

[4themind]

67. Agreed

adios

[BigDDem]

68. See ya!

[ClassWarrior]

158. PHONE BANK INFORMATION IN ONE EASY CLICK...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[DrFunkenstein]

69. I'm More of a Multi-Tasker

That said, I will do what I can for Obama in Pennsylvania and still keep my job.

[Armstead]

73. Not likely, but I love your phrase about what it would be like

"Let 'em bicker amongst themselves about their favorite fear tactics."

If left on their own, it would probably devolve into

"yeah you're a member of the Penn Cult! He's a marshmellow."

"No I'm going for experience, Bill Clnton."

"But you're all overlooking Lanny Davis!"

[ClassWarrior]

74. Thanks... LOL...

I'd love to watch that...

NGU.

[Seabiscuit]

76. GREAT IDEA!

Don't go away mad.

Just go away.

[sybylla]

77. I've always thought of you as an idea man, ClassWarrior

This is the second suggestion I've seen today to avoid GD-P and I think I'll take you up on it.

I'm beginning to doubt I have enough room on my ignore list for all the bottom feeders. I see even your post snared a few.

My rule was to put anyone who personally attacked another poster on ignore (since the mods now allow name calling and personal attacks), but I had to break it because even some of my favorite DUers got pulled down into the slime and I didn't want to ignore them. I think you're right, blocking GD-P is the best solution.

[ClassWarrior]

78. Thanks syb...

Be sure to rec this thread, too.

:hi:

Never Give Up.

[mculator]

80. I propose people start supporting the dream ticket.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4927930

[rug]

81. Door. Let. Don't.

[ClassWarrior]

82. It's interesting to note that...

...apart from one poster who ended up getting all of his posts deleted, the bullies on this thread are all Clinton defenders telling their fellow Dems, "Good riddance."

On the other hand, the Obama supporters have been civil and reasonable, even when they've disagreed with my premise.

Just an observation.

NGU.

[FogerRox]

84. I generally have been avoiding the primary wars here @ DU

I think the Mods have been cutting people way to much slack, not even enforcing the 3-4 paragraph rule.

[ClassWarrior]

91. I admire your discipline. I hope you're campaigning...

NGU.

[FogerRox]

93. Ive already shifted to Congressional mode

Organizing in field and organizing fundraisers, 1st one is march 28th.


Roger Fox
Essex County Coordinator
Tom Wyka for Congress

Plus I'm running for County Committee.

[ClassWarrior]

98. You go!! FogerRox for County Committee!! I want that bumpersticker!

:toast:

NGU.

[Zachstar]

85. Phone Backing and other efforts yes. Just leaving for whatever is not.

This forum is a great place to continue to expose Clinton and get feedback from others before you go expose it elseware.

[ClassWarrior]

88. That's a good point... But...

...the valuable-feedback-to-petty-BS ratio is much higher at your local Obama Campaign HQ or Dem Party HQ than it is here. And on the phone banks, you'll be exposing Clinton's nonsense to far more open-minded people than you will find here.

Besides, nobody said we shouldn't lurk, and listen in on what the other side is plotting. Hey, if they think we're gone, they'll let their guard down even more...

:evilgrin:

NGU.

[HughMoran]

90. OMG - that would be a blessing from above

I can't imagine this place without all the constant bitter attacks.

[ClassWarrior]

163. OMG - PHONE BANKING INFO HERE... LINKY-LINK...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[FogerRox]

94. KNR for the basic sentiment of the OP

Suggestion, switch to Congressional mode. WE need to pad out the margins in the House and Senate.

[ClassWarrior]

116. Yes!! Many Congressional campaign opportunities!!

NGU.

[Renew Deal]

95. I'm not leaving this forum to the republicans.

Sorry

[ClassWarrior]

100. Bullies get their power from having victims to bully.

Why empower them?

NGU.

[QC]

96. Excellent idea! n/t

[Liberal In Texas]

97. It would sure cut down on a lot of the traffic. But no.

There are too many outrageous statements being made to not answer them with facts.

[ClassWarrior]

103. Take a look at this...

Post #66: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4920880&mesg_id=4925298

Let 'em make outrageous statements to themselves. The number of people you'll convince here in a week is microscopic compared to the number you'll convince in an hour or two of phone banking.

NGU.

[sloppyjoe25s]

99. I'm ALREADY doing this... Great Post!

In fact - our work paid off - we made both TX and OH much MUCH MUCH closer than
they would have been.

Even if there is a re-do in FL and MI - we will make those at least a total wash in
delegates.

Our campaign is just MUCH better organized, funded and run.

Don't worry - no matter what she tries now - it won't matter. Obama is the nominee.

So let's get off of here and GET TO WORK!

And DONATE!

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/dt275?source=mainnav

AND Make Calls!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/contact/splash/callwyoming

[ClassWarrior]

109. Links to phone banks here!! Thanks sloppyjoe!!

Great job!

:toast:

Never Give Up.

[ClassWarrior]

111. .

[ClassWarrior]

125. .

[ClassWarrior]

129. .

[ClassWarrior]

135. .

[ruiner4u]

101. will you fight on the beaches?

[Arkana]

104. I'm thinking about doing just that.

If I hear one more shitsmear about Rezko I'm going to reach through the internet and kill someone.

[Catherine Vincent]

105. Obama was mentioned in the Rezko trial today.

:)

[Arkana]

137. In reference to what?

For chrissakes, he has not been implicated in anything. Fitz has said so--and I'd trust his word before any federal prosecutor's. He didn't even have to give a deposition--what does that tell you?

[ClassWarrior]

144. You expect anything besides cheap potshots here? Instead...

...get out into the real world and debate with human beings instead of the Heathers.

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

108. Naw, they're just a bunch of insecure bullies looking for a reaction.

No reaction, no power.

NGU.

[rug]

113. Rezko just signed a cooperation agreement.

[tandem5]

106. I support this!

110% no 120% wait okay... 150% but no more!

[ClassWarrior]

159. PHONE BANKS NOW OPEN... LINK HERE...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[End Of The Road]

107. GO, please GO! All of you! Out! Now! nt

[sueragingroz]

110. Cool!

Catch ya later!

[NoBorders]

114. I'm already on my way out

My time spent here has dwindled to a tenth of what it used to be.

[ClassWarrior]

115. Any campaign stories?

NGU.

[Dinger]

117. I Am A PROUD Clinton Supporter Who Thinks We Clinton People should Do The Same Thing

Damn good idea. Is that o.k. if I'm with ya, but as a Hillary Clinton supporter?

[ClassWarrior]

118. And a Cheesehead too?

How can I resist? :toast:

NGU.

[Jamastiene]

119. Door please do not meet ass. n/t

[ClassWarrior]

160. OBAMA SUPPORTERS, MEET PHONE BANK... LINK HERE...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

NGU.

[Asia Expat]

124. That is such a wonderful idea.

[ClassWarrior]

130. You know the amazing thing about this thread is how many...

...Clinton defenders have kicked (and probably will continue to kick) a "volunteer for Obama" thread. If we convince just one person to spend less time online and more time on the ground for Obama, remember, we did it together.

B-)

NGU.

[Phillycat]

132. God, that would be GREAT.

GTFO!

[ginnyinWI]

136. Best idea I've heard all day!

Let them have it all to themselves. No more posting here until we have a nominee. ;)

I've tried Ignore, and all that does is make threads incoherent.

We aren't changing any minds that couldn't be changed by the candidate himself, or by being finally turned off to their candidate through her own actions.

bye-bye GDP for as long as this takes.

[ClassWarrior]

138. Thanks ginny!

Let's Ba-rock Cheeseland!

:toast: <-----(Brewtown brew)

NGU.

[Blondiegrrl]

141. I see your point, and I'm inclined to agree, but ...

... the main reason I started coming here was to get all the latest scoops and news updates about the Obama campaign. I wish I could find a board that is solely for Obama supporters. (I've looked at the Obama thread here on DU, but it's not very active.)

[ClassWarrior]

142. That's cool. Nobody said we shouldn't lurk. Just...

...don't feed the trolls, and use the time you save to help Obama.

NGU.

[JackORoses]

145. why would we do this? the Hillarites are the ones who will have to leave shortly.

[ClassWarrior]

146. Note that I said, "Till we have a nominee." In the meantime...

...we have work to do that doesn't involve neener-neener matches with closed-minded children.

NGU.

[JackORoses]

149. but we don't have to let them have the clubhouse

When we get back we won't even recognize the place.
The piles of rotten trash and fecal matter would take weeks to clean up.

No, I say we stay and defend what is ours.

[ClassWarrior]

151. Why not? If they're wasting their time bickering with one another...

...here, they're not out getting their candidate elected. Plus, without victims to bully, I'm sure it'll get pretty old pretty quick, and most will probably drift away anyway.

Win-win-win!!

NGU.

[doni_georgia]

147. I think I am with you

I've had enough and frankly there are things we can be doing to help Obama secure the nomination. Please go to his web site and sign up. We can all put our time to much more constructive use than arguing with people who would rather trash our party than lose.

[ClassWarrior]

150. Good for you, doni! Here's the link with info on phone banking from home...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/actioncenter

:toast:

Never Give Up.

[ClericJohnPreston]

155. Yes leave

No matter what excuse you concoct. Leave, leave, leave.

Take your wild-eyed fanaticism and cult-like naivete with you.

Maybe after you leave we can open the doors for some LEFT-WING Democrats instead of your faux populism.