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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:18 AM
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party seems split down the middle, and thats just the way it is...
how will this resolve?

the supers will have to perform their function and be the tie breakers, but they dont want too.

that means someone must tell the candidates to make a deal and settle it. or else destroy the party.

so this means a deal is inevitable? theyll flip a coin or something? lol


just seems crazy they way this has gone.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:19 AM
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1. right down the middle . . .
except for

Obama has a million more votes
150 more elected delegates
100 more net delegates
more money
more donors
more primaries
more caucuses
more dem senator endorsements
more dem govenor endorsements


other than that its just about even lol

if you guys can't count can you even read?

Obama's magic number is 465 and only needs 45% of the remaining 1030 delegates to win.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:27 AM
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2. yeah.. true.. but its the people im worried about. half the voters..ignoring them is not an option
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 03:28 AM by meow mix
its the people themselves are that are severly split and that is the problem. not the math heh

i think the supers and the candidates themselves are also worried.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:31 AM
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3. Voters are not as split as you might think......
which is why the Hillary for Veep theme is taking roots. I don't think it is going to happen, but I do believe that if anything, more of the regular voting kind have had a hard time choosing between them for the most part. Don't let the Internet be so much of your guiding light of what's going on in the day to day world....

Although I do think that pissed off activists may not want to work for the opposite camp if their candidate doesn't prevail. But that sound more like a Hillary problem, because Obama is the one with the actual grassroots organization.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:44 AM
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8. Unfortunately, it's ordinary voters who will not
vote for the candidate they don't support. Activists will hold their noses and vote Democratic no matter what. Each candidate has voters who either will not show up or will vote Republican. It's time for a deal, and it had better be a really good, genuine deal that brings the candidates and the party together. Otherwise, I personally might as well write in Edwards' name. If Obama and Hillary are going to throw the whole election away by putting themselves first and forgetting that the American people are what counts here, I might as well vote for the guy who was always remembered that winning was second to doing what is right for the American people. And that guy is Edwards.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:34 AM
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4. Most democratic voters are not nearly as polarized as the crowd here.
There will be strong support for Obama when Hillary drops out.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:35 AM
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5. we have rules and one person is going to follow the rules and win the nomination
are you suggesting that we change the rules now that Obama is going to win because he won but is not unanimous.

This is not going to the convention. The Clintons know full well that unless a miracle happens they are not going to get the nomination but they are getting $ 1 million a day but are not spending very much - only $ 5 million ad buys for the big primaries on Tuesday.

They are going to hang this out as long as possible to get as much money as they can and then she will stage a withdrawal and everyone will think that she has taken the high road. In the meantime she will have accumulated $ 25 million in primary money not yet spent and has another $ 25 million in unspent GE money to put in warchests for future use.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:37 AM
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6. the popular vote is currently basically evenly split nationally
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:31 AM
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7. no its not now go spend some time and look it up
1,000,000 votes in a primary campaign is pretty significant. Don't be so lazy.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:28 AM
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9. Well, yes, Hillary
is willing to make a deal that puts her at the top of the ticket.

Don't know where she gets her negotiating position on that, but it's out there.
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