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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:20 AM
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Guardian UK: Clinton braces for release of White House records
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"Hillary Clinton has rebounded in the Democratic race, partly by delivering bruising blows to her opponent, but the imminent release of her White House schedules could give Barack Obama fodder for attacks of his own."

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"Clinton has struggled with questions about the records from her years as first lady that remain unreleased, despite requests filed under US freedom of information laws. During the most recent Democratic debate, Clinton depicted the current administration as complicit in the delay — prompting George Bush's aides to direct blame back at Clinton.

The final word came quietly this week from the national archives, which is clearing Clinton-era records for release to the conservative interest group Judicial Watch. The group has been promised 10,000 pages of Clinton's White House schedules in advance of a court hearing scheduled for March 20.

The schedules are a potential treasure trove for Obama. The Illinois senator has hammered Clinton for refusing to release her tax returns, but his aides need only to wait a few days before poring over the decade-old records for any evidence of impropriety."

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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:23 AM
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1. I believe it's only a partial release.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:25 AM
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2. Tissue time is over. It's now time for Depends.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:26 AM
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3. All stocked up and ready to go! Let 'er rip!
:popcorn: :beer:
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:26 AM
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Hmmm... this could be interesting.
Finally, we will have a look at Hillary's "experience".
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:26 AM
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4. They do not need to find impropriety. All they need to show is that the first lady
was busy meeting girl scout representatives while Bill was shaking hands with Mandela.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:47 AM
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9. another small snide piece of sexism
how nice
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:58 AM
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11. How is it sexism?
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:17 AM
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16. Yeah! Maybe she was meeting with BOY Scout representatives!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:19 AM
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17. So... was the 'sexist' part the part where the person said "girl scouts"
Frickin hell.

:crazy:
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:40 AM
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19. That was my read - but who knows - Las Clintonistas are so sensitive.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:42 AM by Divernan
Here I am - a female professional who even taught in the Womens Studies program at a large university for a few years back in the 70's - but now I stand accused as a betrayer of all women because I support Obama (originally Richardson, then Edwards - but never, never, never HRC).

I don't agree with her triangulating positions in the Senate, I don't like her need to out-macho, out-testosterone, out-militaristic any man when it comes to supporting the military-industrial complex with it's all war/all the time agenda.

And when it comes to Supreme Court appointments, I'd expect her to go with corporate-friendly, conservative appointments, if only because she'll be focused her entire first term on re-election and won't want to piss off her corporate donors.

You can fight hard and fair, or hard and dirty. HRC is ecstatically fighting hard and dirty. We learned from Bush/Rove that people who fight dirty to get into the White House, fight dirty once they get there to promote their own personal agenda. And HRC has a need to avenge herself. If she's elected she'll do all in her then considerable power to destroy the progressive wing of the party.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:55 PM
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25. You're okay in my book.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 02:55 PM by votesomemore
Las Clintonistas . heh . They determined that even though I was born in Texas and have been an almost life long resident, that suddenly I am bigoted against Mexican Americans. I work, live, socialize, and shop with more MAs on a daily basis than Clinton has in her entire life.

That's the best they could do! All they have is a paint brush of ugliness.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:57 AM
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20. I'll be damned for saying "girl" on DU. Clintopaths should get a grip. nt
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:38 PM
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21. it isn't sexist. its just anti-hillary, which is sexism now.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:02 AM
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14. bullshit-
your claims of sexism are sexist in them self-

get a grip.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:27 AM
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5. It's past overdue; if there's nothing incriminating, that's okay, too.
The secrecy is what's stirring inquiring minds.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:31 AM
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8. Absolutely right. eom
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:28 AM
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6. Good. If she wants to play dirty and say Obama has no experience,
then let's see just how much she has herself.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:30 AM
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7. At least there IS a record
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 09:31 AM by JoFerret
and I am sure it will be full of potential questions.
That's what politicians have - records. And they are never unbesmirched.
And the longer they are there - the more complex and compromised they become.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:56 AM
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10. .
:popcorn:
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:00 AM
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12. Who do you suppose might be on that list that she'd hide it so long?
What? Almost 8 years out of the White House and they are still hiding appointment records for the First Lady?

Gotta be some real goodies on that list.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:34 PM
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27. Kick!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:01 AM
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13. Bush has been blocking release of the Clinton records since about day one
of his reign of terror. It was part of a devious rationale to prevent his father's records from being released. I forgot the details but he decreed that presidential records couldn't be released for some long, maybe indefinite, period of time. No, he probably had no authority to do so, but that's never stopped him.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:41 PM
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22. Bushistas won't release anything really damaging on Hillary unless she gets nomination
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:11 AM
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15. What about BushCheney records??
Now those are the ones we need to see .. now.

Oh wait.. we've tried. The records are either
withheld for "national security reasons" or have
simply been disappeared.

Must be nice to be completely above the law and
outside any boundaries of behavior or accountability.

One law for Dems, no law for Reeps.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:29 AM
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18. These records are mainly diversions from the still held back tax returns
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:30 AM by Divernan
Now when she gets pushed on the tax returns, we'll get the "You mean old people are just picking on me. I can't do everything at once! I just gave you 10,000 thousand pages of (meaningless) records."

The impact from her White House schedules may have some impact when someone has been able to plow through them and determine the statistics. Like 60 % of her appointments were for ceremonial photo ops; 20% meeting with WH staff to plan/oversee ceremonial functions/state dinners; 10% for her everchanging hair styles/clothes fittings, etc. How many hours did she actually work per week?
If it was 10 to noon and 2 to 4pm? How many one-on-one staff meetings with Huma Abedin?

The absolute real dirt is in the Clintons' tax returns - particularly 2006 (reported income of $34.9 MILLION) and 2007 (I'm predicting it will have jumped to $50 Million - given the access that kind of wealth gives you to very exclusive, high yield funds.)

You don't make $34.9 million or anywhere near that from speaking fees and publishers' advances. Bill brokered some deals with foreign interests. Which foreign interests would those be? He also funneled money through his own foundation and I want to see the tax returns for that outfit too.
HOW MUCH TAX DID THEY PAY ON THAT HUGE INCOME?

WHAT WAS THE TAX RATE they ended up paying? With the right tax advisers, the very wealthy often pay next to nothing.

COME ON HILLARY ! ! ! INQUIRING VOTERS WANT TO KNOW ! ! !
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:44 PM
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23. Woohoo! Karma on the way Hillary!
Batten down the hatches Hill, theres a shit storm coming your way!:rofl::popcorn:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:45 PM
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24. Hillary should also release the tax returns immediately. n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:38 PM
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28. Whatever - Ken Starr
:crazy:
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:31 AM
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26. K&R
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