How would a Clinton-Obama ticket do against McCain?

[mwb970]

I hate having to pick between Hillary and Obama - I think both are great. What if they teamed up? Put Ms. Experience at the top of the ticket and Mr. Charisma in for vice. After eight years he will be experienced too!

It seems as if a Clinton-Obama Experience-Charisma ticket would soundly trounce the oldest man ever to run for president, a man who promises a third term of failed bush policies, a man who wants to stay the course forever in Iraq, keep the tax cuts for the rich, and privatize Social Security.

Or am I wrong?

[jakem]

1. if only he could be first lady, to get all that extra bonus experience!

[rndmprsn]

10. hahahaha

[LeftCoast]

2. I don't think you're going to get a lot of support for this idea around here today.

I like them both too, though I favor one over the other.

[tekisui]

3. They would trounce him.

But, why not have Obama be the Nominee if he wins the Primary?

[leftofcool]

4. Probably bring out the Republicans in droves to vote

But a tight race I would imagine.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

5. They'd Steamroll His Ass And Be UNSTOPPABLE. Guaranteed Victory. Period.

It's the best possible ticket by far we could have running in the GE, hands down. I'd say it is a huge possibility that's what we'd get, too.

[dkf]

6. If Clinton does something underhanded, I don't care if Obama is on the ticket

I'm not voting for her.

I don't reward bad behavior.

[DemzRock]

8. It amazes me how newbies think. All polticians do underhanded things....

Even Barack

[0007]

13. dkf is no newbie by any stretch of the imagination.

dkf thinks a lot like genhappy babby.

[dkf]

15. Other politicians may do a few bad things but not as bad as Hillary.

I've been around long enough to have zero, in fact, negative confidence in her candor and honesty.

Its my non-newbieness that forms the base of my dislike for her.

I think McCain is more honest than she is. Not that I would vote for him over that, but I do trust him more than Hillary.

[zulchzulu]

7. Lizards under rocks would sign up to vote Republican

Having a Clinton anywhere near the Presidential ticket only invites defeat for the Democrats. Let's not give the Repigs an early Christmas present.

[Renew Deal]

9. Instant failure. Hillary is unelectable.

Any ticket with Hillary on it will sink.

[Apollo11]

11. It would be a landslide for the blue team!

And up to 16 years of progressive leadership for America! B-)

Now - pass me another jug of that Hope-flavor Kool Aid! ;-)

[Zenlitened]

12. I like the idea. I think they'd win in a landslide.

And I think they would accomplish great things for our country.

I'm not a True Believer in any political candidate, to be honest... but here are two smart, creative and driven people who -- with some steady prodding from an engaged, progressive citizenry -- could get America back on track and reaching for our ideals once again.

As a nation, we have lost our way under Bush/Cheney. Sixteen years of Clinton and Obama at the helm (and, again, ourselves as citizens helping chart the course) might very well produce the sort of American Renaissance we've all been working and hoping for.

[Nine]

14. Very well

I don't think an Obama/Clinton ticket would be nearly as strong, which is part of the reason I chose Clinton over Obama after Edwards dropped out.

But I agree you're not going to get a lot of civil responses around here today.

[IndyOp]

16. In my opinion, you are wrong. The thought of continuing any dynasty makes me angry.

The GOP wants to run against Clinton -- they know that she will be like red meat for their base.

Yesterday morning on FOX news, they asked people who listen to Rush Limbaugh to email or call in if they had followed Rush's advice and crossed party lines to vote in the Texas or Ohio primary for Clinton - they got 1200 emails in 14 minutes from people who said that after they voted for Clinton they had to run home and take a shower.

Putting Clinton on a ticket with Obama would be rewarding the bullies among Clinton's campaign staff who've been going negative against Obama.

No.

[mwb970]

17. Is it about basic quality, the dynasty issue, or electability?

If we're just talking about basic quality, I'd say Hillary and Obama are both pretty darn good and would be even better as a team.

If the dynasty issue is a deal-breaker, then obviously Hillary is out.

If we nominate based only on electability, are we not allowing our choices and our votes to be determined by Rush and the other far righties? Rush tells his people to vote for Hillary even though they despise her. Are we then to vote against Hillary because they despise her? That just doesn't seem right somehow.

[IndyOp]

19. Are we then to vote against Hillary because they despise her? Not quite.

The issue is that if a fraction of Rush' listeners are motivated enough to cross party lines to vote for Clinton because they believe that she will activate their party faithful during the general election, then Republicans will turn out in droves to vote for the Clinton in the GE. The Conservative Political Action Committee met some weeks back and Air America's Thom Hartmann attended to see what the buzz was among those folks. He said that they had clearly already invested MILLIONS of dollars in anti-Clinton materials -- fliers, dartboards, books. "Clinton hate" is one of the last remaining uniting factors for the GOP faithful who put the Bushes in office and they'll turn out in droves to vote against Clinton in November and will wind up putting McCain in office -- this will be true whether Clinton is in the P or VP spot. If she is the VP on the ticket then the GOP faithful will be rallied by the cry that a Clinton will be just a step from the oval office and they can't allow that! Clinton is a divisive figure and we can't allow the GOP to use her to swing the general election their way.

I won't dislike her because they dislike her. I will be realistic about the person who gives us our best chance to win the GE -- that is Obama.

And for quality -- Senator Clinton has many, many good qualities -- but Obama is, in my opinion, far superior in terms of foreign policy and in terms of activating citizens to be intensively involved in government. We desperately need both.

[robbedvoter]

18. 16 years in the WH and the MSM would implode!