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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:02 AM
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Democrats fear an ugly end to race: Odds rise that outcome will anger large blocs of voters
LAT: Democrats fear an ugly end to race
Without a clear-cut delegate leader, party activists worry the outcome will turn off the losing side's voters.
By Peter Nicholas, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
March 6, 2008

WASHINGTON -- Leading Democrats scrambled Wednesday to prevent the closest, most riveting presidential contest in decades from tearing the party apart, as the odds rose that neither Hillary Rodham Clinton nor Barack Obama could clinch the nomination without angering large blocs of voters. Anxiety within the party swelled after Clinton's victories Tuesday staved off elimination and gave her fresh momentum, yet did little to eat into Obama's lead among delegates -- the people who will formally pick the nominee at the Democratic National Convention in August....

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Frustrated by the impasse, two prominent Clinton supporters said the only fair resolution might be to place both Clinton and Obama on the ticket, though one would have to renounce presidential ambitions and stand for vice president. Thus far, neither has shown any interest in the No. 2 job....

Even if she strings together victory after victory in the coming months, Clinton is not likely to net enough delegates to draw even with Obama. That is because party rules award delegates proportionally according to vote totals. So even the loser in any given contest can pick up a respectable number of delegates. Clinton would get a dramatic boost if the Michigan and Florida results counted toward her total. By some estimates, she would net about 120 delegates based on her strong victories in the two states. Yet that strategy is a risky one....If black voters who have supported Obama think he lost the nomination because the rules of the contest were unfairly changed, the backlash could be damaging, some civil rights activists said....

An Obama victory could split the party in a different way. Like Clinton, the Illinois senator is likely to need the votes of Democratic superdelegates -- party activists and elected officials who are free to back any candidate. Suspicion among Clinton voters that Obama courted superdelegates through backroom deals could upset female and Latino voters loyal to the former first lady.

For now, the party's focus seems to be Florida and Michigan. Some leading Democrats would like to see another election in those states or perhaps a compromise. "The only way you could make it work is if both candidates agree on how to divide up those two delegations," said Leon Panetta, a Clinton supporter who was chief of staff in Bill Clinton's White House. "Both campaigns would have to agree on a formula. On the other hand, if it's a fight -- and let's assume Hillary should win -- (Obama supporters) will be very angry that somehow they were robbed."

Panetta said a better solution might be a shared ticket....

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-delegates6mar06,0,7199969.story
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:04 AM
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1. That's why they need a solution in place before the Convention..
Instead of hoping that one will get the 2025 delegates. I doubt that will happen.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:06 AM
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2. Just posted here confirming your doubt. Neither can win that number before the Convention --
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:07 AM
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3. I just hope the Democratic party will not blow up in front of us
something has to give, and we know any conflicts between our party will be smeared by those rat repigs. They will feast on this.
and thus they will get back into the WH. For all our sakes we cannot let this happen. No way.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:10 AM
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4. I hate to see Clinton forced on Obama
when he has the lead in delegates and pop. vote. He should be free to choose his own v.p.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:10 AM
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5. I hate to see the shared ticket idea being shouted out suddenly
This will result in precisely zero kumbaya points for either candidate or the Democratic Party. There is a reason that the selection process for Vice President exists: it works (neverminding that Lieberman thing). It is not simply about not upsetting the supporters of the top two remaining primary candidates, but appealing to the greatest cross-section of voters in the GE.

No to O/C or C/O.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:21 AM
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6. they want to "prevent" the contest from "tearing the party apart" -- it may be too late for that
And I'm wondering if that was the intent all along.

Fracture the Dem Party...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:52 AM
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:54 AM
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8. Hillary was pretty upset with Obama for running after she announced her candidacy.
He knew it was politically opportunistic to be able to make the situation a split vote, essentially. Two minorities to chose from. Two big faces. It was a great move on his part.

But it may cost us the party in the long run.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:55 AM
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9. Oy, ignorant comment alert. n/t
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:56 AM
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10. Shove it with the racist remarks
"If he was white he wouldn't have made it past the first round."
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