Clinton validates McCain as passing commander and chief threshold.

[debatepro]

http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/clinton_ive_crossed_commanderi.html

And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold,”...“I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy,” she said.

So you validate that McCain has crossed the threshold but only believe you have. So if that belief is in question you have only validated that McCain has passed the commander and chief smell test.

[TwilightGardener]

1. She's an idiot. Can we kick her out of the party yet?

[Mooney]

18. I just laughed out loud.

Thank you.

[jgraz]

34. Wait... she's a DEMOCRAT???

Holy shit -- we need a better screening process.

[Blue State Bandit]

2. And that's why I refuse to waste my vote on Hillary.

[vi5]

3. Are you kidding me with this?

One time I can dismiss as a misinterpreted "oops". Twice is ridiculous.

This is just the pathetic "Love me, republicans" desparate plea for approval that I've feared the whole time from her and it's put me over the edge.

[Cant trust em]

6. too right. Once could be just a communications problem

wrong words chosen. This is, like, the fourth time I've heard her do this. Stop complimenting Republicans!

[Cant trust em]

4. again, why does she have to compliment McCain and denigrate Obama in the same sentence?

This is the same stuff we've been dealing with for the last three days re: the "lifetime of experience" comments.

[debatepro]

5. She just handed McCain a gem to use against her in the GE...

McCain: "My opponent knows that I am fit to be Commander and Chief" she already said it. She believes she is... I am not sure we agree."

[arundhatiroyfan]

12. You have a good point.

nt.

[earthlover]

74. You can bet that her words will be part of Republican commercials in the Fall

It also makes it even harder if she is the VP, using her words against Obama....

She really knows how to hurt the Democratic Party and paint it into a corner

[angie_love]

7. Are you fucking kidding?? AGAIN??? What an asshole she is.

Someone kick this ass out of the democratic party like we did to Joe Lieberman.

[TwilightGardener]

8. How has she "crossed that threshold"? From her days of bimbo-eruption guard duty?

[LSparkle]

9. I'm starting to believe the sinister rumors ...

That she REALLY wants Bomb-Bomb (who has agreed he'll be a
one-termer) to win so she can be the Dems' savior in 2012.
Otherwise, why on earth would she be so deferential to McCane?
It's one thing to go after Obama, but WHY is she building up
her potential opponent in this way?

:dilemma:

[writes3000]

10. She won't stop until the Dem party stops her. And they are going to have to. n/t

[earthlover]

11. Clinton never ceases to amaze me.....she IS McCain-Lite!

Hasn't she figured out yet that the enemy is the REpublican side?

Her scortched earth policy is hurting our party. It is quite likely Obama will be our nominee. Not guaranteed, but likely. She has no business saying things that could be used against our nominee in the Fall by the republicans like this. This is the second time in a week for crying out loud!

[TwilightGardener]

13. Let's see if the party elders finally grow the balls to shut her sorry ass down.

[anigbrowl]

14. How many times is she going to keep doing this

This is like, the 5th time she's repeated some variation on 'McCain's OK, I'm OK, Obama's not OK'.

I've decided that some evil mad scientists performed a brain transplant between her and Mike Huckabee. Or maybe Mittens.

[americanstranger]

15. Okay, is this considered 'throwing Obama under the bus' yet?

Or will we get another round of supporters telling us she didn't actually say what she actually said?

Enough. Get her outta here, as they say in New York.

- as

[Bread and Circus]

16. Wow, she literally would be Tombstoned on DU with her behavior.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

17. What a moranic statement.

Holy crap that is either just plain stupid, or incredibly evil in its intent.

[JTFrog]

19. They can put a picture of her under DINO at wikipedia.

At least Lieberman had the decency to leave the party.

As far as I'm concerned her political end will be mired in it's beginnings. Her neo-con enabling Senate record is one small drop in the bucket of proof that she's never truly shed her republican roots.

[TeamJordan23]

20. She is becoming Leiberman right before our eyes. nm

[Lerkfish]

21. gee, an incredible lack of clinton supporters defending her in this thread

you can't defend the indefensible

[americanstranger]

26. Really!

I think she even stunned her own acolytes with this one.

- as

[MadBadger]

22. What the hell has she done to pass this threshold?

[Lerkfish]

24. she voted to approve an illegal war against people that didn't attack us

I guess that makes her presidential material.

[anigbrowl]

32. Voted for the IWR, cluster bombs, and IRG I guess

She has no foreign policy experience OR platform...all her answers are elaborate variations on 'I don't know what I'd do.'

Yeah, she's made speeches in China and supported some Northern Irish groups. That's nice. But she's never negotiated anything. Every time she drags this out as her foreign policy experience I think 'great, more dog and pony show'. I feel sure that if she were in office we'd basically get bush44 because she would not want to be seen as wussy in response to any overseas threat so she'd overreact rather than lay herself open to criticism of being too soft.

Sorry for the rant. Foreign policy is a big deal to me (partly because I come from Europe originally) and I think she is so full of it.

[City Lights]

23. Bite me, Hill. You've demonstrated nothing of the sort. It's your

campaign that's looking like a fairy tale these days.

[sniffa]

25. Oh fuck her

Seriously.

[Shakespeare]

27. McCain should hire her. She certainly has no problem shilling for him.

Disgusting. :puke:

[earthlover]

75. Hire her? She gladly does it for FREE!

[cottonseed]

28. Hilllary's "experience" is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.

She MUST be pounded on this. Bradly hit her hard on this the other night.

[NorthernSpy]

29. holy shit, she did it AGAIN?

Like the first time wasn't enough?

[Lerkfish]

30. this is reminding me of the serial "accidental" racebaiting remarks

oops, I did it again
oops, I did it again
oops, I did it again
oops, I did it again
oops, I did it again
oops, I did it again
oops, I did it again
oops, I did it again
oops, I did it again
oops, I did it again


but its not a pattern.

[americanstranger]

31. Yeah, but I'm not sensing any supporter counter-spin this time.

Maybe she stated what she was saying a little too clearly to obfuscate this time?

- as

[anigbrowl]

35. This is like the 5th time

She repeated the 'Obama has a speech' line 3 or 4 times. There's a youtube of it floating about somewhere, if someone would be kind enough to repost it - she says it on her campaign plane, in a speech, and interviews. It's her new catchphrase.

[elehhhhna]

33. Look, up in the sky: It's LIEBERWOMAN!

[AzDar]

36. Unforgivable.

[americanstranger]

37. Damn. 35 responses, not a single defender.

I think she b0rked their spin thingies with this one.

- as

[npincus]

38. AGAIN???? Why doesn't she switch teams already?

[TheDonkey]

39. What. The. Fuck.

is she thinking????

[Renew Deal]

40. She really is trash.

:puke:

[Orangepeel]

41. It's just dumb. In an effort to win the nomination, she's killing her GE chances

[earthlover]

76. She is also killing the chances of Congressional candidates with a D by their name....

[npincus]

42. kick and puke.

[cottonseed]

43. Keep peeing in the pool Hillary.

It's sad really. Everyone is bailing on her as fast as they can, hell, from what I've heard about 45 more super delegates will be leaving her in the next few days. She's beginning to screw everyone at this rate -- Obama, the Democratic party, Democrats, you name it. She's peeing in the pool and before too long she'll be the last one left treading water in a big green cloud.

[jefferson_dem]

44. That's enough, you fucking scumbag Junior Senator from NY, former First Lady!

How anyone can continue to defend her incessant bilge is beyond me.

[Renew Deal]

46. She's not from NY. She just used us to get elected.

[Catherina]

45. When did a woman who didn't even have a security clearance

cross this mysterious commander-in-chief threshold?

But during those two terms in the White House, Mrs. Clinton did not hold a security clearance. She did not attend National Security Council meetings. She was not given a copy of the president’s daily intelligence briefing. She did not assert herself on the crises in Somalia, Haiti and Rwanda.

And during one of President Bill Clinton’s major tests on terrorism, whether to bomb Afghanistan and Sudan in 1998, Mrs. Clinton was barely speaking to her husband, let alone advising him, as the Lewinsky scandal sizzled.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/us/politics/26clinton.html?ex=1356411600&en=6dba106d8450a413&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

Let's talk about hype baby.
Let's talk about fantasies.

I've now become convinced that Clinton is too delusional to serve as President. She's so out there in lala-land she could hang the phone up at 3am thinking it's one of Bill's girlfriends.

[OwnedByFerrets]

47. Jumped the Snark???

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

48. Kick for spin.

It would be helpful.

[Kittycat]

53. There's no way to spin this.

She's repeated this montra over and over for a few days now. I think she thinks she's cute. However, she's pissing the fuck off of our Dem base.

[heidler1]

49. Archie Bunker tactics at three AM two words from Hillary 'Nuke um'.

Take your village and shove it; there's demons running amok.

[charlie]

60. She had to destroy the village to save it n/t

[americanstranger]

50. 50 responses, NO defenders!

I believe we have ourselves a GDP record right here, folks.

Even the hard core doesn't want to get near this one! I'm stunned.

- as

[Apollo11]

51. Hillary is only saying out loud what the whole country already knows

Senator McCain has 23 years military service + 25 years Washington experience.

I don't see how anyone can pretend that John McCain does not pass the threshold of experience required to be a credible candidate for Commander in Chief of the US Military.

Hillary is only saying out loud what the whole country already knows. No harm done!

[Lerkfish]

54. "no harm done"????? is that the best spin you can come up with?

precious.

[americanstranger]

57. Welp, that's it.

Talking point, issued. 'No harm done.'

Fucking shameful.

- as

[Hell Hath No Fury]

56. It's her trashing of a fellow Dem...

in the process that everyone is pissed -- and rightly so -- about.

[LVjinx]

79. Actually

Most everyone agrees with her. Unless you can produce a number showing that 50+% of all Americans think Obama would be a better CIC than McCain.

[OnionPatch]

59. Well, he wants to keep our troops in Iraq.

That's enough for me to decide that McCain is highly UNQUALIFIED.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

61. It's about her AND McCrazy. And a knife in the back.

“I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy,” she said.

:burningwhitehotfury:

[Shakespeare]

63. Bullshit. She doesn't have to say it AT ALL.

She can talk about her alleged experience, and how she compares to Obama. It is utterly pointless to say "oh by the way, McCrazy'd be great, too!"

What a pile of horseshit.

[Apollo11]

64. But we are choosing who should go up against John McCain

If we want to win in November, we cannot afford to ignore John McCain's perceived strengths.

Hillary is making the case for herself as the best candidate to go up against McCain.

[Shakespeare]

65. No, she's not making the case for herself.

If she's good enough to be president, she should be able to argue that without praising a FUCKING REPUBLICAN over her opponent.

What she did was beyond the pale. And now she's done it twice.

[anigbrowl]

70. So why does she keep saying how great McCain is?

When did you last hear her attack him for his stance on Iraq or his economics?

Oh wait...I guess she's going to do it later. Like releasing her tax returns, even the 2006 ones.

[Sultana]

52. .

:wtf:

that two-faced ...............(you finish the rest) :D

[OnionPatch]

55. She really said that?!

I was fuming mad about the first McCain endorsement and now this? It seems pretty clear she is endorsing McCain over Obama.

That's about the last straw for me. I've been volunteering for the Democratic Party, but if she wins the nomination, I really don't think I can do that anymore. Let her make a few more statements like that and this Yellow Dog will be staying home on election day if she wins the nomination.

[snappyturtle]

58. Is Lieberman whispering into Hillary's ear? Just a thought. eom

[nsd]

62. I hope uncommitted superdelegates take notice of how little loyalty Clinton is showing her party.

At this point, why would they vote for her? Loyalty is a two-way street: if she's not willing to give it to us, she doesn't deserve it from us.

[Bryan]

66. This is repellent.

I try not to spout off about this or that loose remark being made by the candidate in opposition to mine, but this is beyond the pale.

Sure, I can understand that Sen. Clinton is trying to position herself towards a GE run against McCain, but it speaks very, very poorly of her campaign that the only way they can think of to do that is to praise McCain.

It also flags up a host of interesting questions, the most pertinent being whether she'll endorse McCain if she loses the nomination, because he apparently "passes the threshold". Christ.

[Thurston Howell III]

67. If she does then she will have commited political suicide.

"It also flags up a host of interesting questions, the most pertinent being whether she'll endorse McCain if she loses the nomination, because he apparently "passes the threshold". Christ."

[americanstranger]

68. Yes, I'm keeping track: neraly 70 responses, one lonely defender.

This is wild. Nobody, save one Clinton defender, wants to touch this.

I think we've reached a tipping point here.

She. Went. Too. Far. This. Time.

- as

[Owl]

69. What the heck's the matter with her?

Damn.

[johnnydrama]

71. using her own logic

She would have to support McCain against Obama in the GE right.

[BringBigDogBack]

72. What a bunch of shit.

I'm so glad McCain has Hill's blessings. :sarcasm:

[BringBigDogBack]

73. We could call them team WARRRRRRR....

:rofl:

[ourbluenation]

77. JEEEEZUS is she on his fucking payroll or fucking what? She is creating future ads for him.

She is not this obtuse. what the hell is she doing?

[laundry_queen]

78. Simple. She is trying to sabotage Obama.

She knows she cannot win this time, so she wants McCain to win the GE so she can run again in 2012. It's all about her and her ambition, fuck the Democratic party, and fuck fixing the country from GWB's mess. Her narcissism is showing.

[Jamastiene]

80. "commander and chief?"

It's Commander-In-Chief. Damn.

[FrenchieCat]

82. It's a fucking shame is what it is.......

and nothing more.

[HEyHEY]

81. In my country we call this kind of person a "Cunt"

[moondust]

83. How presumptuous of you, Smellary.

She's wrong on both counts. Flying an airplane and living in a prison camp 40 years ago as well as being a hardcore militarist do absolutely nothing to make someone qualified to be CinC. If she believes that she is qualified to be CinC then so is daughter Chelsea for living in the WH without a security clearance and observing some of the things that went on around the place. But then...so is the WH chef.

I think Eisenhower was the last President to have pre-qualifications to be CinC. McBush and McHillary are not in that league by a long shot.

She reminds me of Bush trying vainly to include himself in the pantheon of great war Presidents.

[bridgit]

84. As much as I hesitate to mention it; if you think BO has more military experience...

than McCain...you're just fucking nutz. It's time to get your head right for the benefit of your candidate