Geraldine Ferraro's Place in History Will Overshadow Hillary's Soon.

[David Zephyr]

With the negativity of the Clintons, with Hillary's refusal to accept the mathematical reality that she has lost, with her continued, futile campaign hurting the party, I really doubt that Obama will now be inclined to put someone so divisive on his ticket as VP. That's sad. She could have made history, but is clearly blowing that chance for good now.

How strange it is that when all the hoopla has cleared the fact will be that Ferraro, who has endorsed Hillary, will still have that groundbreaking place in history.

Yes, that means that Geraldine Ferraro's historic role as first VP candidate in U.S. history will remain in place. To think that Hillary might have been the first VP really elected if she had she played her cards right, but she's clearly not a team player.

I can no longer seeing any rationale for Hillary to be Obama's VP. And I was one of the few that hoped for it. Not any more. That day is done.

And so, Ferraro's proud role in U.S. history will now stand. What might have been?

[movonne]

1. Yes she is a team player, I just don't like the team she is playing

on...

[David Zephyr]

6. Mark Penn, Terry McAuliffe, James Carville. Obama can't have that rot in his campaign.

It's over. She can't be his VP. She's missed her moment.

I was wrong when I argued for her to be on his ticket. It took me a long time to see it, but she won't help him. It's too late.

She might as well keep up her Sherman's March of revenge which she is now conducting. Even that will soon lose steam.

[anigbrowl]

2. Ooooh, low blow!

Strangely enough, you're only the 2nd or 3rd person to even mentioned Geraldine Ferraro in the last few months hee on GDP. I remember that race, I was so disappointed when they got creamed. Reagan's landslide victory against Mondale made it tough for women politicians after that for a long time.

[David Zephyr]

4. Not low. Just stating a very sad fact.

I still like Geraldine and was so proud of her and Mondale back in 1984.

Hillary could have been the Vice President, but clearly that time has now past. What a shame.

[LSparkle]

5. I still remember that debate between Ferraro and Poppy ...

He was LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH about how great things were in the country
and I was screaming at my TV, hoping that Ferraro would be able to call him on
it and get the better of him. I don't remember being as angry during the
Reagan-Mondale debates but that one between Poppy and Ferraro REALLY riled me...

[David Zephyr]

7. I always thought (and still do) that Ferraro was the clear victor in the debate.

After the debate, George Bush made his shitty comment: "I think I kicked a little ass tonight."

Why on earth Hillary has allowed herself to be pushed or fooled into continuing this self-destructive campaigning simply is baffling to me. She's lost. She can't win ethically. And she's praising John McCain?!

[TheWraith]

3. I see very little chance of Clinton as Obama's veep.

Sebelius has better odds than her. But 95% says the veep spot goes to somebody with plenty of foreign policy cred. My money is on Wes Clark.

[BuyingThyme]

8. Didn't she marry Flip Wilson or something?

[Bucky]

9. I miss Flip Wilson. His was the coolest show when I was a kid.

They just don't make decent variety shows anymore.

Okay, have we drifted off topic enough now?

[OzarkDem]

18. F*ck you and the horse you rode in on

She's been a great woman who has worked on many political campaigns in spite of the fact that she's been suffering multiple myeloma for several years now.

I'm sure an ignorant jackass like yourself doesn't even know what that is, let alone stop drooling long enough to look it up.

[David Zephyr]

20. I agree with you here. She is an outstanding American.

That's why I posted that pic of her. She's the best.

[OzarkDem]

21. New lows for Obama supporters

and more reason to believe that most are not Democrats at all.

You're not good enough to mention her name, let alone post her picture and use it in a clumsy attempt to bludgeon Clinton.

Fuck off.

[David Zephyr]

22. I can't argue with that.

It's on both sides.

It is, sadly, going to get a lot worse if Hillary continues with a campaign that can only win by overturning the popular vote and the pledged votes through the super delegate process.

Bill and Hillary need to shut out Mark Penn, Carville and McAuliffe and make a call to Obama before the train wreck happens.

This is all so unnecessary.

[DemBones DemBones]

10. Well, David, if Obama's the nominee, I'm voting third party,

as are my husband and adult "kids" and I'll encourage others in the real world to do the same.

I'm not crazy about Clinton but she's better than McCain or Obama.

Obama is a liar with a giant ego. He's no more anti-war than John McCain is and McCain would be more competent as president than the rookie who decided to run too soon after getting to D.C.

[David Zephyr]

11. So why have primaries at all? It's Clinton or a 3rd Party?

Sorry that democracy was excercised on the way to her coronation.

You do remember democracy, right?

[OzarkDem]

14. I'm very close to agreeing with you

Though I wouldn't vote third party. I would stay home instead.

The only times I've not voted for a Democrat is every time the local wife beater Dem runs for office.



Let's hope Obama doesn't join him, though I understand he is helping him with his campaign.

[OzarkDem]

12. More sexist crap from Obama fans

What, you aren't promoting violence against women today?

[David Zephyr]

16. Lamenting Hillary's decline and praising Geraldine Ferraro is "sexist"?

That sort of drivel makes Hillary look bad.

If you really supported her, you'd tell the men that are running her campaign into the ditch (Mark Penn, James Carville and Terry McAuliffe) to take the VP position while the Party can still hold together.

[OzarkDem]

17. No, your post is sexist

I realize it must be giving Obama supporters a "stiffy" every time they put down a Dem woman candidate, but forgive those of us who are offended by it and will continue to call it as we see it.

[rinsd]

13. Hillary never made sense as Obama's VP(the unity ticket itself makes little sense)

She is not needed for her home state and does not bolster an area where he is weak in (experience/foreign policy).

Obama's as Hillary's VP only make sense in his stump cache which would likely be very different in the role as VP vs Prez.

[David Zephyr]

19. Except for this: Combination of Obama & Hillary voters would yield a generational control of Con

That would have truly been historic and good for America and the world.

I may be wrong, but I don't think it's Hillary as much as Penn, McAuliffe and Carville who hate Obama (Carville's wife despises Obama).

It may take Bill Clinton, in the end, to push them aside.

It's probably too late, but someone should step in and show her the math. She can't win without having Super Delegates overturn the popular vote and the pledged votes. And that won't fly.

[IDemo]

15. No small irony that she was also part of the creation of Super Delegates

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/25/opinion/25ferraro.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin