Hillary Clinton should concede:

[FlyingSquirrel]

Poll question: Hillary Clinton should concede:

Let's see just how polarized DU is these days. I'm envisioning an upside-down bell curve.

:evilgrin:

For the record, most estimates show that the only way for her to get even close to Obama in pledged delegates would be for MI and FL to be seated as-is, and for her to take the remaining states by wider margins than expected.

[skipos]

1. When Huckabee was doing the "miracles not math" thing he didn't shit all over McCain

If Hillary was able to her "miracles not math" thing without shitting all over Obama (or trying to make McCain look better than Obama) and the people who support him, I wouldn't care whether she dropped out or not.

I don't know whether that is possible for her though.

[kwassa]

10. and did Huckabee beat McCain in Texas and Ohio?

just askin'.

[skipos]

12. Has Hillary ever had a lead in the pledged delegates?

Huckabee did.

[kwassa]

16. for how long, five minutes?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

23. Longer than Clinton.

Oh, btw, Clinton lost Texas.

[ExtraGriz]

2. shes not going to drop out

not with 45,000 donors within the past 36 hours donating to her campaign, and the rezko trial starting opening statements today

[mrreowwr_kittty]

3. Did you hear how many of the Rezko defendants are Clinton donors?

Perhaps making an issue of Tony Rezko was not such a good thing.

Oh, and Obama's name never came up in the opening statements. Psst...It's not about him.

[SKKY]

37. Patrick Fitzgerald already vetted this...

...Obama did nothing wrong, illegal, nor unethical. Done.

[Orsino]

4. Unless some miracle occurs, she should be considering it.

I don't like the idea that she's going to try to get MI/FL counted for her.

[BringBigDogBack]

14. I agree.

[hell-bent]

5. Ha,ha,ha,

Surely you jest! :>)

[k8conant]

6. Now, if not sooner...

what is wrong with this woman?

[FlyingSquirrel]

7. Well, I think she believes she can win.

;)

[Unsane]

8. Fucking yesterday

[Igel]

9. More or less as predicted.

Now if you factor in relative numbers of supporters for each camp, and their zeal, you've pretty much nailed it.

[apocalypsehow]

11. Now.

n/t.

[Occam Bandage]

13. Yesterday.

[IndianaGreen]

15. She should concede now, but she won't. She will stage a disaster in Denver

that the MSM will just eat up, and the TV audience will find so repulsive that they will vote for McCain in November.

[FlyingSquirrel]

17. .

[anonymous171]

18. 72%, wow.

NICE.

[grantcart]

19. I voted now but I am happy to see her go thru complete humiliation all the way to

the convention. It won't be good for the party but it will end her national ambitions.

[FlyingSquirrel]

24. I would rather have her ambitions stay intact than have the party be hurt

and lose in November. Not really hoping to see humiliation, I don't think that's good for anyone.

[annie1]

29. why is it bad for the party for people in PA to be able to vote exactly?

or for Obama to run against someone? He's not made of glass, he's not gonna break. and if he can't withstand little 'ol hillary then he certainly cannot stand up against the republicans or leaders like Ahmadinejad

[ldf]

39. please. don't piss on these people's parade

they can't handle it.

the day obama has actually earned one more delegate than needed to get the nomination, is the day hillary should concede. not a second before. IF that happens.

years ago, when i first got my computer i checked out the yahoo message boards.

i was amazed by the overwhelming number of rabidly vicious posts against just about everyone and everything that even slightly smelled of "liberal" or "progressive". i left and never went back.

the same ilk have now monopolized du.

the democratic party is practically irrelevant in the conversation. it is all hillary hate.

there are some obama haters who rise to the bait, and fight fire with fire, but nowhere near matching the numbers of hillary haters.

we should look at it like this.

if the contest lasts all the way to the convention, the tv audience will be huge.

we can make sure all our best speakers are trotted out to do their best. (sharpton's speech at the last (?) convention was absolutely awesome.)

we can show how we all CAN get along, showcase the actual proposals that we have that will benefit america, AND pick one of the two best of the party. (you never know, the both may make it on the ticket...)

it could be edge of the seat entertainment.

we then unite behind which ever is chosen, and kick republican ass in november. it should be an easy task.

THEN, after the election, we make sure to speak loud enough to our leaders so that they understand we MUST clean house and address the atrocities that have been done in our name.

but most of the hacks here now, spewing their hate towards BOTH candidates don't want that.

i honestly don't even believe they are democrats. they are here for a purpose, and doing it quite well. i think part of the agenda is to purposely create such a sense of entitlement that if one candidate, or the other, doesn't get the nomination, their supporters will stay home.

they are here to help DEFEAT the democrats, come november.

so, stay in hillary.

and i would say the exact same thing to obama.

[annie1]

43. Thank you so much. : ). i don't know why i waste my time.

[HooptieWagon]

34. Agreed, it won't be pretty

but watching the corrupt Clintons and DLC humiliate themselves into utter oblivion will be the silver lining of this firestorm. Clintons, Bushes, DLC, neocons - they're one and the same cabal that's ripped the constitution to threads, and sold our economy to the highest bidders (donors). time for them all to be cast to the dustbins of history... if not the Hague.

[Megahurtz]

20. Goodbye Hillary!

[AntiFascist]

21. YES!! After all this, I doubt if she even has a shot at VP...

unless, of course, its on the McCain ticket.

[Thepricebreaker]

25. If she is VP I still might not vote, I don't want to see her anywhere NEAR the oval office.

[ldf]

41. do you think we are fools?

you have no intention of voting democratic in november, whatsoever.

so please spare us.

[trickyguy]

22. She's got her claws

in this race and she's not going to pull out until forced to. What a pathetic situation.


But for me Obama reigns.

[Raine]

26. Gone already is what she should be

but I think she is selfish and self-centered enough that she will keep on to the bitter end and destroy the Democratic Party in the process. :-(

[annie1]

28. Mario Cuomo senior thinks she should stay in. and yet you think she's destroying the party?

gimme a break.

[Raine]

44. My opinion would be the same if it was Obama

who kept on and on when everything points to there being no way in hell to secure the nomination, I'd want him out too. To continuation this divisive fight to the convention is going to rip the party apart for decades. An example is 1968 and also 1972.

[annie1]

27. Wow, pretty disgusting that so many think that the person with support of 50% of democrats...

should drop out. Obama supporters are seriously frightening.

[FlyingSquirrel]

30. They scare me too.

Almost as much as Hillary supporters!

:P

Seriously, GDP is a scary place.

[annie1]

31. when he was down in the polls we didn't call for him to drop out...

it's so silly. but i'm glad you bring up that gdp is a scary place, i usually don't come here anymore b/c of how bizarre it gets, it's good to be reminded that this is really a "special" place.

[wileedog]

35. SHe's down by 150 pledged delegates

Popular vote doesn't mean anything in our system. She can't win.

[annie1]

36. 150 with 600 more to go and possibly another 300 more to go if MI and FLA re-vote.

[wileedog]

40. She just LOST delagates..

with her "big victories" the other night.

She will lose Wyoming and MI for sure. Obama will break relatively even at WORST in every other state besides PA. Even if she landslides PA, she can't possibly make up the difference.

Its over, even with re-votes. Especially considering MI may be a caucus and even if its not Obama may win it anyway. Or are you actually taking the MI results seriously when he wasn't even on the ballot?

She has to carry an huge margin of victory in every state to be close - a margin she has only managed in ONE state - Arkansas.

Its over.

[annie1]

42. Did your magic 8 ball tell you she'll be losing MI and WY? or did you mean...

MS and WY? either way, put the magic 8 ball away, it didn't work in NH or TX.

[AtomicKitten]

32. She's angling for the VP slot & Obama needs to stay far away from that mess.

[Danger Mouse]

33. Now. She has already lost.

[backscatter712]

38. Spin only has limited effect, and reality is reasserting itself.

She lost Texas, and she's about to lose Mississippi and Wyoming, and looming is that math problem that just isn't going away.

[FlyingSquirrel]

45. 78% of 243 votes... higher than even I thought it would be.

:shrug:

[TheDeathadder]

46. great poll - "SAVE OBAMA - STOP THE PRIMARY"