The one thing I find totally unfathomable and distasteful about Ms. Clinton.

[Liberal Veteran]

Is how she can resort to such republicanesque duplicity and scorched earth politics after being the target of the republican party for so long.

When push comes to shove, I always thought our party was better than that.

Her behavior is beneath the standards I have set for a presidential candidate.

While she may up getting my vote, she will NOT get my support financially or any other way.

[Kittycat]

1. Our Party is better than that. But Clinton doesn't represent the party.

She represents, well - Hillary Clinton and the remains of bill's legacy the support her candidacy. She is the "I/ME" candidate.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

2. She won't be getting a dime from me either. nt

[DURHAM D]

3. I get so sick of this crap.

Obama went totally negative when his campaign started the race baiting (helped along by the media) in order to win South Carolina. It was cynical nasty strategy but it worked. You have double standards.

Obama supporters can be so damn dishonest.

[surfin]

4. How come she will release her tax records for the repubs but not us

I think that is very negative. She said that. We dems cannot see the dirt but the repubs will be able to see it and make a decision on her.

Amazing.

[DURHAM D]

6. What are you talking about? eom

[surfin]

26. Have you not listen to her answer on tax returns

Wake up. She has said over and over she would release after August (pressure now to do it in April). She would release them for the repubs and her buddy McClain to go over when they run against each other but not for us to make a decision between her and Obama.

Keith just said she has said more positive things about McCain since satuday in the press than McClain has said about himself. LOL!!

Look at the great video post above on the love affair of hillary and John.

[DURHAM D]

29. You are the one not listening -

she has said she will release them around tax filing time. Wake up your own ass.

[babylonsister]

5. Man, are you misinformed. Ask Leahy, Clyburn, Kerry and Kennedy

who they all felt compelled to call to talk about race baiting. I don't recall any of those calls going to Obama.

[DURHAM D]

7. What a joke those old guys - Leahy, Kerry Kennedy.

They are all lying for the guy they think they can control when he gets in the W.H. Its all about their "power" base.

That strong woman - not so much.

[babylonsister]

8. If you think that, you're delusional. Jokes? Who DO you respect in

Congress or the House? That comment just proves to me how deep in denial you are.

[Inuca]

10. With all due (?) respect, I think

it just proves s/he is an a..hole.

[babylonsister]

13. You can say that again. And no respect due to this person, who is

now on ignore. I don't want to waste my time w/people who have this mindset. I wonder what they're even doing here.

[DURHAM D]

17. What is respectful about calling someone an asshole? eom

[Inuca]

20. Just an expression n/t

[DURHAM D]

16. Don't you get the power game in D.C. ?

Some gain - others lose. Old white men afraid of losing status - oh dear.

[IowaGirl]

14. Boy, are they gonna be in for a sad surprise! He has a history of....

cutting loose people who help him climb his political ladder as soon as their usefulness has played out. But, that's just politics as usual, I guess. Oops, I forgot, his is the "new" face of politics. :puke:

[DURHAM D]

24. New old face -

I honestly don't think Obama is a Democrat. He carries no passion for anything that Democrats care about. Health care for one. He doesn't really give a shit about it.

Also, I don't expect him to work with Dem leadership - he will ignore them. To do otherwise would mean he might be forced to stand for something instead of yapping about it. Run for the hills.

This is all about his personal journey in search of his lost identity.

I am sorry he didn't get enough love as a child. Most people with that problem go into show biz. Oh wait, he did but he only plays one character.

[Tellurian]

18. You are sooo Right..

Bush threatened to take Leahy's cows, he folded. Kerry got an election stolen from him, he folded. Kennedy couldn't win the nomination because, he folded..

The only Democrat who has recently won a presidential election is Bill Clinton! Yeah, I'll stick with a proven winner!

[DURHAM D]

25. I don't know about Leahy's cows?

I love the Clintons - they fight for me.

[Liberal Veteran]

30. No they don't. They folded on NAFTA, they folded on DOMA, they folded on DADT...

...they folded welfare, they folded health care, they folded on all kinds of things.

If something is easy, the Clintons will be right their fighting for you.

The moment someone gets a little butch with them, they talk a big fight and capitulate.

[DURHAM D]

32. Could you list something that she voted for or signed into law?

Folded on DADT - were you paying attention back then. Senator Sam Nunn and Colin Powell gave us that policy. It was not what Clinton tried desperately to get in the first days of his Presidency - he was forced to compromise (by the DOD) but it was at least better than before. Folded my ass.

I won't even address the other things you mention - you don't know what you are talking about. Just scream out some shit.

[Liberal Veteran]

28. You are aware that the only reason Bill won in 92 was because of a rift in the republican party.

Perot took 19% of the vote and most of that was from the republicons.

[DURHAM D]

34. Perot's votes drew from both. Did you vote for Clinton? eom

[Liberal Veteran]

37. Yeah, I did. But you said they fight for you. Give us some examples.

[virgdem]

9. You hit the nail right on the head..

I feel the same way. The way I see it, she does not represent the Democratic Party or its ideals, she represents the Corporate ideals of the DLC. I've long held that the DLC is quietly but relentlessly destroying the Democratic Party from within. Like you, I can not support her financially or work for her, and will hold my nose in the General Election when I will be forced to vote for her over McBush. Not an appealing prospect, I assure you.

[backscatter712]

11. I'm with you - NOT ONE DIME FOR LIEBERCLINTON.

I've been donating. Obama's received $160 from me so far, and I anticipate he'll be getting a lot more. Probably several hundred more, depending on my finances.

But for Clinton, nothing. I may be forced to hold my nose and vote for her in the general if she steals the nomination, but she will not get a penny from me. Ever.

I will not finance sociopaths.

[emilyg]

12. Senator Clinton, please.

[Liberal Veteran]

15. I'll grant her that honorary when she starts living up to it.

[Tellurian]

21. Senator Clinton doesn't need YOUR validation..

she won the honor on her own.. BUT... if it makes you feel good exhibiting the usual profile of dysfunctional Obama supporters, by all means have at it!

[Liberal Veteran]

27. No, but she needs my vote.

Which she can get two ways: Willingly or Unwillingly. Right now she is giving me no reason to vote for her other than the fact that she happens to have a "D" beside her name which I consider to be an "unwilling vote".

[emilyg]

38. Same goes for Mr. Obama.

[AntiFascist]

19. Hillary IS a former Republican (early in her political career)....

who owes her success to facilitating Reaganesque covert ops. Her real beef has been with the whacko Religious Right, but when it comes to facilitating Republican military operations, she's right there with them.

[DURHAM D]

35. She started her political career at 17 ?

What a precocious child.

[Zuiderelle]

39. Wow, that's some odorous bullshit right there.

[Rowdyboy]

22. Our party has never been nearly as progressive as we wish it was....

Still, I will vote for either of our candidates because I am AFRAID of who John McCain might put on the supreme court in an effort to prove himself a "TRUE CONSERVATIVE". It really scares me.

[Fran Kubelik]

23. Yes, let's just play nice and lose some more.

Let's stand on principles in the election and then get swiftboated out of another GE. Our Constitution will continue to be shredded, we'll isolate ourselves more from the rest of the world, and kiss our civil liberties goodbye, but at least we know that we were Democrats, dammit, and we played fair in the election.

[roseBudd]

31. I walked around every day for no less than an hour on weekdays

used a week's vacation & went out every Sat. & Sun. for Kerry for months, stood in 98 degree weather for hours in a parking lot and a bus stop for Hackett.

I do not feel like doing GOTV for Hillary, but will gladly do it for Obama. Call me selfish but I do not relish stumping for such an unlikeable person. Other than her recent antics I had nothing against her previously, I just felt we would be foolish to not nominate the first candidate to have charisma in recent history. Now I do not respect her.

And I still believe Secratariat has a better chance against McCain than Seabiscuit.

[Stephanie]

33. She learned from the best.

She could beat Newt Gingrich at his own game now. Sad to say. It's sort of like an abused child who grows up to be an abuser.

[Perry Logan]

36. Does it bother you that two-thirds of Democrats disagree with you?

[AgadorSparticus]

40. I really do see patterns of abusive behavior. She was a victim of the Rep. abuse

and like an abusive relationship,she will repeat the cycle. It's just not attractive nor should it be accepted. JMHO...