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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:27 PM
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Fellow Obamaniacs help: Obama is starting to annoy me!
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:40 PM by woolldog
I was watching ABC Evening news interview with him by Charlie Gibson.

Gibson asked him about the Commander-in-chief argument and what his response to that was.

Obama goes into an answer about how experience doesn't just mean Washington experience. And he gives the spiel about his community organizer work, law work state senate etc. What he didn't do was hammer Clinton on her own lack of experience and her hypocrisy about this; he doesn't say anything about what would make him a good commander in chief.

When is he going to start standing up for himself? Why is Susan Rice better at pushing back on this issue than him? It's starting to piss me off that he's just smiling and laughing about this. Meanwhile the damage is being done. :mad:

He's coming across to me as extremely weak and soft. And I'm an inveterate supporter.

EDIT: OK I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE UNEDITED INTERVIEW and couldn't find it. But found an article with his reponse. Apparently they cut out the second half of his response to the question which dealt with Hillary's lack of experience. Better than nothing. But still I think the way he frames it isn't strong enough, and if he had started out with that they wouldn't have edited it out probably.

"I think Senator Clinton, like Senator McCain, believes that life begins when you arrive in Washington. So she discounts all the work that I've done as a community organizer, as a civil rights attorney, as somebody who taught constitutional law, as a state senator, as well as a United States senator. Apparently, to her, that's irrelevant," he said.

"On the other hand, all her experience is relevant, work at the Rose Law Firm or her work as first lady. So that's something, obviously, that we're going to contest," he continued.


http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Vote2008/story?id=4404162&page=1
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:29 PM
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He was the first one to raise this issue. On his plane he questioned her experience
and came to the conclusion that she doesnt have any foreign policy experience.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:33 PM
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11. I think that was a big mistake too. Do you have a link to the vid?
Once he said she didn't have experience, he left himslef wide open to being contradicted. Which is exactly what CNN did this afternoon. They ran the clip, then showed how she had been a part of Ireland and also showed part of her speech in China.

He should have raised the question and let the journalists run with it. Now there is audio that can be refuted.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:14 PM
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23. She doesn't have experience.
At least not the "red phone" commander in chief kind. And I'm not sure it matters. The person who has the most of that kind of experience is George W. Bush. Would you want to re-elect him? I suspect not. Experience is overrated. And there's not much difference between him and clinton on it.

But the more Clinton repeats it, the more people just start to accept that there's an "experience gap", even though there isn't one...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:29 PM
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1. MSNBC had film of him challenging her
on her claims to have Presidential experience. Are you sure ABC just chose not to show his entire answer?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:29 PM
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4. Charles Gipson is a Bush shill nt
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:19 PM
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24. And he asked BO such a hard question. He's bad alright!
:eyes:
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ShaWee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:34 PM
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14. Undoubtedly the case
It's called editing and MSNBC will edit the shite out of that. You can edit an interview of a man who saved 20 children from a burning building so as to make the hero look like jafar from aladdin.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:42 PM
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18. apparently ABC edited that part out:
see my revised op.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:29 PM
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2. It is past time for him to stand up and start swinging.
If he doesn't, we won't have the opportunity to vote for him in November.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:29 PM
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3. His surrogates are giving 'em a headache.
The Clinton campaign compared Barack to Ken Starr for asking to see her tax returns.

You've got to stand back a bit and watch him work. He really is gifted politically in a way that is very different than what we are used to seeing.

Don't fold up your tent and go home just yet.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:30 PM
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5. do you know what weak and soft when the repubs start...
???? Honest, he's not got what it will take...
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:32 PM
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9. He sees the big picture. He's got what it takes. n/t
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:51 PM
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21. I think he has done real well and his campaign knows what they
are doing...I think we all make too much about hillary's win in Ohio and TX? must remember we didn't even know who this Obama guy was until this election and look how far he has come...I never thought he would make it this far...so for him to come this close in these states is really something...Hillary had all the star power...so this country is looking for something new and fresh...not bushes and clintons for most of our lives..I also think there are some very powerful dems behind him that who also have had the clintons... so for him get him this far is amazing...it comes to mind the Kennedys and Kerry, etc..
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:30 PM
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6. You can't have been a supporter for long...cause you would know that's his style.
Her attacks have not netted her anything.

But if you want attacks ... here you go!
http://action.credomobile.com/sirota/2008/03/the_clintonlieberman_connectio.html

Clinton was actually even more brazen than Lieberman. Not only did she lie about her record, she actually went on the offensive attacking Obama over the very trade deal she has long championed, "rais doubts about whether he was committed to reworking NAFTA," as the AP noted. To use the Lieberman-Lamont analogy, that's would be like Lieberman not only pretending to be against the war, but actually attacking Lamont for not opposing the war more strongly. Even Lieberman wasn't cravenly dishonest enough to do that - but Clinton was.

Hillary Clinton no longer a Dem, it's time she learned the Zell Miller rule.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOytXkCw0NY
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:33 PM
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10. I don't like hillary clinton
and will NEVER vote for her no matter what.

I'm just pissed that Obama is playing nice guy. He needs to show that he wants this and is willing to fight. He's being way too nice. He needs to hammer her.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:30 PM
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7. Dupe.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:31 PM by AtomicKitten
ooooops
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:31 PM
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8. He can't stand up to any sort of challenge.
We would have heard details if he had any experience in this area.

Everyone already knows what an inexperienced president can do to the country.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:34 PM
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12. You can't be serious. Read what you just wrote.
"He can't stand up to any sort of challenge"

OMFG - that is probably the funniest thing I've read today.

:rofl:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:26 PM
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26. I just did, it's pretty good. :)
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:34 PM
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13. I think he'll make an excellent commander in chief
just wish that he would articulate why he will make a good one, not for me, but for voters who are undecided.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:53 PM
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22. Good point, He has never articulated why, and you know he is all about articulation.
It there was even a shred of evidence, they would have expanded and exaggerated and turned it into something rather fierce.

There is no there there.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:35 PM
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15. Well.......He's good enough!
Don't be so harsh on the young'en. He'll be wiser when he is fully matured...about 8 years from now.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:39 PM
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16. Well, he IS weak and soft.
And his supporters are touchy. OH so touchy!

It's his third campaign; Hillary's third campaign (IIRC) was in 1984.

And he can't hammer Hillary. He has already defined himself as being beyond mere politics. Nobody is surprised that Hillary is getting down and dirty, but Obama can't reply in kind. If he does, the halo dims and the press reports that Man Bites Dog.

--p!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:47 PM
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19. That would be Bill's third campaign
If you want to cast Ms. Clinton as a contributer to the success of her husband's campaigns then her most similar role would have been campaign manager. To relegate her to the role of campaign wife would be insulting.

Just the same, Ms. Clinton has been very successful at helping Bill Clinton win elections. Unfortunately, Bill Clinton is not running this time.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:42 PM
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17. That has been my consistant complaint against Obama.
I voted for him on Super Tuesday, but I was and still am afraid of his inability to fight back! No matter what you think of Hillary's attacks on him, they are NOTHING compared to what the Pubs are going to throw! I'm very afraid that he and his advisors are not prepared or willing to slam those attacks into the ground as soon as they surface. We already went through a campaign where the candidate wasn't able to fight back effectively (Kerry), and we sure as hell don't need another one! If barack dosen't show sone cahones, I'm going to start sending Hillary some $$ to promote her. I like her too and I think she would be a good President, I have backed aways from her becaue I don't want to have to deal with another 4 years of Clinton hate, but I'm not willing to risk the Dem in the WH either.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:49 PM
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20. 3 months ago (yes only 3 months) Hillary was inevitable. Today Obama is winning big.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:50 PM by John Q. Citizen
Don't sweat it, write some letters to the editor asking why Hill won't release her 05, 06, tax returns and her papers from all her experiences at the White House, and ask yourself how we got this far?
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:24 PM
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25. "So that's something, obviously, that we're going to contest,"
Someone needs to tell him that there is no time like the present. Gibson just gave him a microphone to the world and he pansies around, bringing up Hillary.

Instead of pointing out anything to bolster his creds as Commander in Chief, he does the Hillllaaaaaaryyyyyyy, ahhhhhheeeeeeeee!

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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:26 PM
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27. If he trade his delegates with Gore to take VP that argument is out the window.
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