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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:53 PM
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To be clear - Hillary is not an actual real-life monster...
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:58 PM by jefferson_dem
as far as I know.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:54 PM
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1. nor is she a muslim...
as far as I know.


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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:54 PM
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2. No just incredibly self centered and opportunistic
Nothing new for a politician I guess but she does fit the worst stereotypes...
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:54 PM
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3. Great blog w/video... Just in case others need to decide that.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:55 PM by Kittycat
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:09 PM
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26. Thanks Kittycat
I missed it earlier. Now I am even more upset. Who is telling her to act like this and say this stuff? It is so alienating.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:55 PM
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4. Just mean-spirited. Or maybe cold. As far as I know.
:shrug:
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:56 PM
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And I take you at your word on that- I have no reason to think differently that I know of
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:58 PM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
at this time despite what others might say.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:56 PM
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5. delete - dupe
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:56 PM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
why is this happening!
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Ned_Devine Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:56 PM
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6. She's not a closeted lesbian either
...not that I know of
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:56 PM
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7. Yeah, but she could be a Muslim. Oh wait, wrong candidate.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:59 PM
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17. No it's her "closest employee" who is the Muslim
and that's a fact.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:01 AM
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43. Are you trying to insinuate Obama is a Muslim?
:popcorn:
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:57 PM
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8. Hillary doesn't have the problem..Chauvanists and Chauvafeminists do.
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:08 PM
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23. Real question
This is an honest question, and I'm not trying to flame you.

Do you mean to say that if someone (regardless of gender) does not support Hillary, they are chauvinist?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:57 PM
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9. Monsters aren't real...
...unfortunately Hellary is.

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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:57 PM
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10. she's not a giant werewolfgoblinzombie
as far as i know..
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:57 PM
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11. Hils doesn't eat the beating hearts of kittens
as far as I know.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:58 PM
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12. I take her at her word. She's given me no reason to believe she's a monster.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:58 PM
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13. And she ain't
READY FROM DAY ONE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL....

HILLARY’S Commander In Chief Experience - The Red Phone Test

LISTING HILLARY CLINTON'S RED PHONE EXPERIENCE
ON NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS



Tracing Hillary Clinton's '35 Years' of Experience


All Things Considered, January 24, 2008  When Hillary Clinton makes a campaign appearance, she almost certainly will highlight her experience — 35 years, she says — as one of her qualifications for president.

But Clinton is a little less specific when it comes to describing what exactly she was doing in the years before she became a U.S. senator in 2001.

Suzanne Goldenberg is author of a new book about Clinton, Madam President, and a U.S. correspondent for the British newspaper The Guardian.

Goldenberg says it's difficult to see how Clinton calculates her 35 years of public service, since her fulltime job for many years was working for a corporate law firm in Arkansas.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18391632


After earning her JD from Yale, Clinton worked as a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in DC. In 1974 she failed the DC Bar Exam and decided to move to Arkansas where Bill was running for congress. He did not succeed in this campaign. Both of them took jobs with the Arkansas University, Fayetteville Law School. By 1977, Bill had won the Arkansas Attorney General campaign and Hillary had earned a job with the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock. She continued to be involved politically, urging new laws to recognize children's rights, but her law practice focused on Patent Infringement and Intellectual Property law, though she rarely set foot in a court room. http://doubledemon.newsvine.com/_news/2008/02/06/1282777-obamas-experience-vs-clintons-experience?groupId=1675


Children’s Defense Fund -


Hillary Clinton & the Children's Defense Fund
http://www.peterglenshaw.com/peter_glenshaw_weblog/2008/01/hillary-clinton.html

How Hillary Clinton Betrayed the Children's Defense Fund for Political Gain:
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/034


While Clinton touts her decision to come out of law school and work not for Wall Street but rather for the Children's Defense Fund, the truth is that she spent only a year there. (And then omitted her mentor Marian Wright Edelman from among the 400 others she mentions in the acknowledgemets of her autobiography because Edelman had broken with her when Bill Clinton abolished the federal welfare saftey net in 1996).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-cooper/hillarys-5-million-dump_b_85534.html




She was twice named to the list of “The 100 Most Influential Lawyers in America.” She also represented and later served on the board of Arkansas businesses including TCBY ("Too Good to Be Yoghurt"), and Wal-Mart. As First Lady of Arkansas for twelve years, she chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, Legal Services, and the Children's Defense Fund. Mrs. Clinton wrote a weekly newspaper column entitled "Talking It Over."
http://www.firstladies.org/biographies/firstladies.aspx?biography=43


Wal-Mart


Hillary Clinton and Wal-Mart: A Love Story
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0207-34.htm

Wal-Mart’s First Lady
Hillary’s Past Belies Her Support of Labor

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0021,harkavy,15052,5.html

WalMart Board - 1990





Clinton campaign downplays a large part of her career
By MATT STEARNS
McClatchy-Tribune

WASHINGTON — To hear Hillary Clinton talk, she's spent her entire career putting her Yale Law School degree to work for the common good.

She routinely tells voters that she's "been working to bring positive change to people's lives for 35 years." She told a voter in New Hampshire: "I've spent so much of my life in the nonprofit sector."

The overall portrait is of a lifelong, selfless do-gooder. The whole story is more complicated — and less flattering.
Clinton worked at the Children's Defense Fund for less than a year, and that's the only full-time job in the nonprofit sector she's ever had. She also worked briefly as a law professor.

Clinton spent the bulk of her career — 15 of those 35 years — at one of Arkansas' most prestigious corporate law firms, where she represented big companies and served on corporate boards....
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/5510369.html




Rose Law Firm



Clinton joined Rose in 1976, becoming the venerable firm's first full female partner in 1979, and she continued to work for Rose after husband Bill became governor of Arkansas.

Rose Law Firm focuses primarily on corporate litigation and transactions. She worked primarily on patent infringement and intellectual property litigation, though she did not do much court work. Rose Law Firm is well entrenched in Arkansas' business and political institutions.
http://doubledemon.newsvine.com/_news/2008/02/06/1282777-obamas-experience-vs-clintons-experience?groupId=1675


the Task Force on National Health Care Reform, headed by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton


First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was charged with coming up with a comprehensive plan to provide universal health care for all Americans, which was to be a cornerstone of the administration's first-term agenda.

Hillary Clinton's leading role in this project was unprecedented for a presidential spouse.<11><12> This unusual decision by President Clinton to put his wife in charge of the project has been attributed to several factors, including the President's desire to emphasize his personal commitment to the enterprise.<12>

The First Lady's role in the secret proceedings of the Health Care Task Force also sparked litigation in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, in relation to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA) which requires openness in government. The Clinton White House argued that the Recommendation Clause in Article II of the U.S. Constitution would make it unconstitutional to apply the procedural requirements of FACA to Hillary's participation in the meetings of the Task Force. Some constitutional experts argued to the court that such a legal theory was not supported by the text, history, or structure of the Constitution.<13>Ultimately, Hillary Clinton won the litigation when the D.C. Circuit ruled narrowly that the First Lady of the United States can be deemed a government official (and not a mere private citizen) for purposes of not having to comply with the procedural requirements of FACA.<14>

In 1993, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, along with several other groups, filed a lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and Donna Shalala? over closed-door meetings related to the health care plan. The AAPS sued to gain access to the list of members of the task force. Judge Royce C. Lamberth found in favor of the plaintiffs and awarded $285,864 to the AAPS for legal costs; Lamberth also harshly criticized the Clinton administration and Clinton aide Ira Magaziner in his ruling.<15> Subsequently, a federal appeals court overturned the award and the initial findings on the basis that Magaziner and the administration had not acted in bad faith.<16>

Starting on September 28, 1993, Hillary Clinton appeared for several days of testimony before five congressional committees on health care.<9> Opponents of the bill organized against it before it was presented to the Democratic-controlled Congress on November 20, 1993.<9> The bill was a complex proposal running more than 1,000 pages, the core element of which was an enforced mandate for employers to provide health insurance coverage to all of their employees through competitive but closely-regulated health maintenance organizations (HMOs).

The 1994 mid-term election became a "referendum on big government — Hillary Clinton had launched a massive health-care reform plan that wound up strangled by its own red tape."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Clinton_health_care_plan





Ireland




The Facts
Chris Thornton, a political reporter for the Belfast Telegraph, said that Hillary Clinton's visits to northern Ireland contributed to the "mood music" that made an eventual settlement possible, but were hardly key to reaching an agreement. "Would we have reached a settlement without that kind of stuff? Yes. Would we have got one without the intervention of Bill Clinton and George Mitchell? No."

Hillary is making a lot more of her Northern Ireland role on the campaign trail than she did in her memoir "Living History." As the Boston Globe recently noted, her stories of bringing Protestant and Catholic women together have become more dramatic with each retelling. The claim that she brought Catholics and Protestants together "for the first time" seems dubious. This would not be the first time that she has mixed up her chronology.

The Pinocchio Test
Hillary Clinton seems to be overstating her significance as a catalyst in the Northern Ireland peace process, which was more symbolic than substantive. On the other hand, she did play a helpful role at the margins, by encouraging organizations like Vital Voices, a women's group that takes a stand against extremism. One Pinocchio for exaggeration.


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/01/clinton_and_northern_ireland.html






China


During a 1995 visit to Beijing, at a time when her husband's administration was trying to press China on human rights, Sen. Clinton made a speech condemning abuses.


Kosovo


In May of 1999, she was in Macedonia visiting refugee camps near the Kosovo border and meeting with Macedonia's president and prime minister.

Sources with knowledge of her visit say she discussed the refugees' plight with those leaders. It's not clear how much she helped since CNN reported at the time that Macedonia reopened its border to Kosovar refugees before Clinton's visit.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/06/clinton.foreign.fact/




Senator From New York


Upon entering the United States Senate, Clinton maintained a low public profile, built relationships with senators from both parties and forged alliances with religiously-inclined senators by becoming a regular participant in the Senate Prayer Breakfast.

Clinton has served on five Senate committees: Committee on Budget (2001–2002), Committee on Armed Services (since 2003), Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001),<207> Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (since 2001) and Special Committee on Aging.
She is also a Commissioner of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (since 2001).


Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, Clinton sought to obtain funding for the recovery efforts in New York City and security improvements in her state. Working with New York's senior senator, Charles Schumer, she was instrumental in quickly securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment. She subsequently took a leading role in investigating the health issues faced by 9/11 first responders.

Clinton voted for the USA Patriot Act in October 2001. In 2005, when the act was up for renewal, she worked to address some of the civil liberties concerns with it, before voting in favor of a compromise renewed act in March 2006 that gained large majority support.

Clinton strongly supported the 2001 U.S. military action in Afghanistan, saying it was a chance to combat terrorism while improving the lives of Afghan women who suffered under the Taliban government.

Clinton voted in favor of the October 2002 Iraq War Resolution.

In September 2007 she voted in favor of a Senate resolution calling on the State Department to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps "a foreign terrorist organization", which passed 76-22.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton



she opposes the international treaty to ban land mines.

She voted against the Feinstein-Leahy amendment last September restricting U.S. exports of cluster bombs to countries that use them against civilian-populated areas.

She opposes restrictions on U.S. arms transfers and police training to governments that engage in gross and systematic human rights abuses, such as Egypt, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Israel, Pakistan, Cameroon and Chad, to name only a few.

She has challenged the credibility of Amnesty International and other human rights groups that criticize policies of the United States and its allies.
Mrs. Clinton has been one of the Senate’s most outspoken critics of the United Nations, even serving as the featured speaker at rallies outside U.N. headquarters in July 2004 and last summer to denounce the world body.

She was one of the most prominent critics of the International Court of Justice for its landmark 2004 advisory ruling that the Fourth Geneva Conventions on the Laws of War is legally binding on all signatory nations.

She condemned the United Nations’ judicial arm for challenging the legality of Israel’s separation barrier in the occupied West Bank and sponsored a Senate resolution “urging no further action by the United Nations to delay or prevent the construction of the security fence.”

Mrs. Clinton has shown little regard for the danger from proliferation of nuclear weapons, not only opposing the enforcement of U.N. Security Council resolutions challenging Pakistan, Israel and India’s nuclear weapons programs but supporting the delivery of nuclear-capable missiles and jet fighters to these countries. This past fall she voted to suspend important restrictions on U.S. nuclear cooperation with countries that violate the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

At the same time, she insists that the prospect of Iran’s developing nuclear weapons “must be unacceptable to the entire world,” since challenging the nuclear monopoly of the United States and its allies in the region would somehow “shake the foundation of global security to its very core.”

She accused the Bush administration of not taking the threat of a nuclear Iran seriously enough, criticized the administration for allowing European nations to take the lead in pursuing a diplomatic solution and insisted that the United States should make it clear that military options were still being actively considered.
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0309-23.htm














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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:33 PM
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34. Holy moly

I'm bookmarking this. So she was against an International treaty to ban land mines?
Why? I need to look into her human rights actions (and inaction). It seems there's
more evidence of her hypocritical ways.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:58 PM
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14. She didn't kill Vince Foster either...
She said she didn't. I take her at her word.
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ExFreeper4Obama Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:58 PM
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15. She's not a mean-spirited treacherous and traitorous cold hearted b*tch
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 11:01 PM by ExFreeper4Obama
As far as I know
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:59 PM
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16. nor is she literaly a repuke
as far as I know
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:00 PM
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18. She's an honest person
as far as I know.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:01 PM
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monsters..
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:01 PM
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19. Nor is she a republican anymore...
as far as I know.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:05 PM
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20. As far as I know, she's not Lieberman in a blonde wig.
She said so. I have no reason to doubt her.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:06 PM
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21. Good one!
:rofl:
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:06 PM
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22. hehe
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chyjo Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:08 PM
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24. I take it at her word
when she says that she doesn't drink the blood children, and have seen no evidence that would suggest otherwise.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:08 PM
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25. She just plays one on tee-vee.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:10 PM
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27. nor did she think that her Iraq-war vote...
...would lead to a war with Iraq--as far as I know.

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chyjo Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:13 PM
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28. Stephen Douglas has a lifetime of Experience
I think Jefferson Davis can claim a lifetime of experience necessary to meet the ever present commander in chief thresh hold. You'd have to refer to Abe Lincoln's campaign in regards to his own experience in these matters.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:16 PM
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29. You used to post such thoughtful things. nt.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:20 PM
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33. Emotions run high nowadays.
...Sometimes for good reason.

Thanks. :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:18 PM
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30. Brawawawawawawawa
I'd take issue with that.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:19 PM
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31. Dang, that means I don't know any outside of
bush, Cheney, Gonzales,...
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:20 PM
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32. Despite what some people say
I've heard that too...

Oh wait. I've got somebody else's script. Hey Karl?
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:33 PM
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35. Talk about hiding an insult in a smile
Geez you people could learn SOME civility.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:50 PM
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36. Context.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:57 PM
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37. That's what I've been told, too.
And there's no reason to doubt it, at least that I know of.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:59 AM
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38. she is Sybil!
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Utopian Leftist Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 03:03 AM
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39. She's not giving head to Karl Rove in exchange for advice
as far as I know.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:39 AM
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40. She just plays one on TV? n/t
:)
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:48 AM
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41. Aren't you cute, you think she is so stop being coy
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:59 AM
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42. If she says she isn't...
"i'll take her at her word."
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