Hillary Clinton to Chart Centrist Democratic Agenda

[Emit]

Just a reminder, in case anyone has forgotten, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4721855">Hillary Clinton IS the DLC Candidate

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Hillary Clinton to Chart Centrist Democratic Agenda

by Alex Chadwick

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Day to Day, July 26, 2005 · Alex Chadwick talks with Bruce Reed, a former aide to President Bill Clinton, about this week's meeting of the Democratic Leadership Council, a centrist party organization. The group has appointed Hillary Clinton to define a party agenda for the upcoming 2006 and 2008 elections.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4771471



Centrist Democrats have chosen Clinton to lead the American Dream Initiative

Bruce Reed, President of the DLC, Domestic Policy Council under Bill Clinton, tries to explain that Clinton is not a liberal:

"She's been involved in the DLC a couple of decades now...so she was a natural choice..."

NPR: "But doesn't she have a reputation for being on the liberal end of the party?"

"I wouldn't say that, I've known her for fifteen years... she's a Clinton democrat from the get go ... she's always been quite culturally conservative, I worked with her on Welfare reform ... reforming the child welfare reform system ... she's a natural for this... she's been a good friend to us (the DLC) for many, many years..."

[rurallib]

1. NPR and Hillary - two things that ain't what they're supposed to be.

[merh]

2. Does this surprise anyone?

.

[Emit]

4. It shouldn't

but a lot of DUers, especially newer ones, are not aware of what this really means, it appears.

[merh]

8. its the older ones that should know better that bother me.

if she gets the nod, I'll vote for her because she isn't McCain or a republican, but the more she talks and campaigns, the more she blurs that line.

[Emit]

19. I'm in the same boat, merh

I'll vote for her in the GE, too, if she gets the nod

And it is the more seasoned DUers who, IMHO, should understand the dynamics here.

[merh]

20. I think far too many enjoy the drama and the freedom to slam

I don't envy the mods but I also think they are allowing too much name calling and too many personal attacks.

Stick to the issues, they are what matter, you know what I mean.

[Emit]

23. I do know what you mean

The more important issues are rarely discussed anymore, and then with only a modicum of rationality.

[olkaz]

3. /facepalm

The DLC admires itself so much. It's sad that they'll never understand that caving into the other side doesn't win elections or advance our agenda. In fact, it gives victory after victory to Republicans and hurts our country.

Good lord, why don't the Republicans have to deal with this kind of garbage?

[DJ13]

11. "It's sad that they'll never understand that caving into the other side

doesn't win elections or advance our agenda."


The DLC has never been a progressive group.

They are the infiltration of our party by covert pro-business Republicans calling themselves Democrats to triangulate towards achieving the same agenda the GOP has championed since Reagan was first elected.

[beezlebum]

14. yep, it's not "caving" if they

are the other side.

my mother believed clinton a liberal for a long time. it took me forever to get her to see the light.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. What's the difference between a "centrist" & a "uniter"?

Is there some idea that Obama will be able to unite the congress on a far left agenda?

[Emit]

9. No

Liberal Democrats are screwn; marginalized.

But we both knew that, didn't we? ;)

[Political Heretic]

16. DCL brand "centrism" is "centrism" in name only - its economic and social welfare conservativism...

...that is pro-choice.

Obama is not moving to the middle, his redefining the middle to the left. Not the FAR left. He is not a far-left candidate. That fight is another step in a long, long process of turning the country around. But he is exactly who we need to start laying the foundation for a cultural climate shift BACK to a more left-leaning mainstream.

Hillary isn't moving the culture anywhere. She marches straight to the right of the road, and redefines "democrat" as conservative - as is the mission of the DLC party. That she is culturally "liberal" doesn't change her economic, international and social welfare policy conservatism.

[Emit]

17. You articulated that so well, Political Heretic

:thumbsup: on that

[DJ13]

6. Centrist is newspeak for moderate Republican

More NAFTA's, more pro business/anti worker policies.

No liberal agenda allowed.

[Emit]

30. No liberal agenda allowed.

It's been effectively marginalized.

[rwheeler31]

7. So not a liberal is good for whom?

[Emit]

15. Ask the DLC supporters

:shrug:

The DLC President, Bruce Reed, back stepping away from "Hillary is a Liberal" as fast as he can -- listen at the link to see what I mean.

[John Q. Citizen]

10. Lest we forget the great and terrible sacrifices made by Hillary...

[City Lights]

12. No surprise here.

I'm sure it will surprise some though. Or not. Those who need to open their eyes probably won't. They'll just continue to accuse Obama of being Repub light even though that "honor" is all Hillary's. No wonder she loves her some McCain.

[dysfunctional press]

13. in a couple respects, i would LOVE it if hillary became potus...

it would give her more naive supporters a lesson in just what the dlc is all about- and it would give me PLENTY of opportunities to say "i told you so."

[KaptBunnyPants]

21. You think they'd be reasonable then?

They'll just redefine success, and claim that you must be a "Hater" if you don't like getting screwed over.

[jackson_dem]

18. She is the DLC candidate?

Al From, Seblius, Ben Nelson, Tim Johnson, and so on apparently missed that mystical for netroots eyes only memo. ;)

[democrattotheend]

24. Obama publicly refused to be associated with the DLC

Just because some of the people who have endorsed him are DLC means nothing. If he were really a DLC puppet would Kennedy have endorsed him?

[Critters2]

26. He's awfully fond of Rahm Emanuel, and vice versa. nt

[Emit]

29. I read somewhere that Rahm is hiding under a desk somewhere

afraid to announce his support for one or the other.

Bottom line, though, Hillary is DLC.

[merh]

22. have you seen this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kud1QzQ2WQE

[Emit]

28. Interesting n/t

[Critters2]

25. They're both centrists. There are no Progressives left in the race. nt

[backscatter712]

27. Translation: She's a triangulating Liebercrat.

She'll sell us out to the highest bidder.