"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.” - Hillary's New BFF

[THUNDER HANDS]

Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”

– Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.



"I think it's imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold," the New York senator told reporters crowded into an infant's bedroom-sized hotel conference room in Washington.

"I believe that I've done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you'll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy," she said.

Calling McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee a good friend and a "distinguished man with a great history of service to our country," Clinton said, "Both of us will be on that stage having crossed that threshold. That is a critical criterion for the next Democratic nominee to deal with."

- Sen. Hillary Clinton, speaking to reporters, March 2008.

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Hey, what's a little insult to your daughter when you're trying to slime your fellow Democrat and scare voters away from him?

Clinton/Shameless 08'

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. Good call

[hueyshort]

32. McCain's wife = Witch in a blond wig

[Baby Snooks]

78. No, no, no...

She's a bitch. Not a witch.

[GoldieAZ49]

94. really? and what do you base that on?

Was it her adopting a deathly ill child in Bangladesh, without even talking to her husband first, the child that was used as a political smear in the 2000 election (the black baby) that 'inspires' you?

You really want to go there, and get more votes for McCain? Go for it.

http://www.dadmag.com/archive/060400jmccain.php

Dadmag: Your youngest daughter Bridget is adopted. Why did you decide to adopt Bridget?

McCain: Well it was primarily my wife's Cindy's idea. She was in Bangladesh and she and some of the medical personnel visited Mother Theresa's orphanage to try and help the children there. There were two little baby girls there. One had a heart problem the other a severe cleft palate. Cindy was very concerned about their ability to survive and their need for medical treatment, so she decided to bring them here for medical treatment. She fell in love with both of them. We decided to adopt Bridget. Two close friends of ours, adopted Mickey, the other child.

Dadmag: You knew about your wife's decision before hand?

McCain: (laughs) No. She arrived and said "Say hello to your new little daughter."

Dadmag: A bit of a shock?

McCain: Yes indeed.

Dadmag: And how has it worked out? Are you happy with the decision to adopt Bridget?

McCain: Oh yes! She has enriched our lives. She's a wonderful child, a complete part of our family and we love her.

Dadmag: Your other children accepted her well?

McCain: Oh yeah sure. She's the toughest of the four. The youngest always has to be the toughest.

Dadmag: During your campaign for the Republican Presidential nomination Bridget became something of an issue in South Carolina didn't she?

McCain: Yeah. There were some pretty vile and hurtful things said during the South Carolina primary. It's a really nasty side of politics. We tried to ignore it and I think we shielded her from it. It's just unfortunate that that sort of thing still exists As you know she's Bengali, and very dark skinned. A lot of phone calls were made by people who said we should be very ashamed about her, about the color of her skin. Thousands and thousands of calls from people to voters saying "You know the McCains have a black baby" I believe that there is a special place in hell for people like those.

http://www.dadmag.com/archive/060400jmccain.php

[madaboutharry]

2. I would never have been able to forgive that

I concluded a long time ago that none of us will ever know where this woman is coming from.

[bigtree]

84. this should tell folks that Hillary Clinton's praise is feint, a show.

It's good insulation from the inevitable sympathy for McCain which will surely come after some dolt tries to criticize him for his time in captivity.

As in, "John Mcain is my friend, but, he's wrong . . ." The shortsightedness and political naivety in here is astounding.

[JVS]

3. Obviously Hillary loves power more than her daughter.

[BenDavid]

41. This is so beneath you obama folks....but I would like to ask you

and any other obama supporter about the comment made by HRC, "Hillary described herself and McCain as
stalwarts in the experience game and boiled down Obama’s credentials to "a speech in 2002".I see you all are getting hyperventilated about so I ask:

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2003?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2004, at Kerry's convention?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2005?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2006?

Where was Obama's anti-war filibuster in 2007? Was stopping the war worth standing up, Barack?

Perhaps you ALL are asking, "If he's got more than a 2002 speech - where is it?"

[Name removed]

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[emilyg]

56. You are disgusting.

[rodeodance]

64. "No wonder Chelsea looks like a beaten dog.."--SHAME ON YOU

[Whisp]

76. she seems to have self esteem problems.

no wonder. the McCain called her that shit back then and mama is now his best friend?
and I am the one to be shamed?

ha!

[MojoMojoMojo]

59. You do have a pretty good point there

[boppers]

63. Where was Obama's big anti-war speech on Monday?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech on Tuesday?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech on Wednesday?

It's Thursday now, and no speech?

Hm.

Maybe he's been running for a position that can stop the war, while running against a person who said that presidents, not congress, had war powers.

[surfin]

69. Did you not see her hate for her last week

Hillary attacked hedge funds and yet Chelsea is working in a hedge fund. They think people are stupid but 50% of us are not.

Test this out. You will never see Bill and Hillary kiss. I was told that and started watching. I was amazed the other night Hillary kissed Chelsea like any loving mother would do but then Bill step up and she would only touch cheeks. Amazing. They need to have the Gore's teach them how to kiss on tv. Hillary went to acting school a few weeks ago with that guy at Yale.

Maybe she will leave the primaries and join SNL

[FrenchieCat]

4. But because he didn't use the word Pimp.......

That McCain is quite a guy, she believes!

[DefoliateBush]

52. Ready to Denigrate Wes Also?

"He's a great man and an honorable man"

- Wes Clark, 3/2/2008 (talking about McCain)

[NoBorders]

5. Puts lie to Clinton faux outrage over MSNBC 'pimping' comment

Just shows how, even when it comes defending their own daughter, they appear to be driven more by political calculation.

[ecstatic]

17. Yep. Chelsea was a teen when McCain made his disgusting "joke"

Now, Chelsea is a grown woman of 28 and didn't need her parents running to her defense over an offhanded comment taken out of context.

[galloglas]

39. Yep.

A product must be considered desirable in order to sell it, or "pimp it out". Obviously some form of miscommunication.

[rodeodance]

62. did you know he called the clintons and apologized.? You comment is obsurd!

[msongs]

6. "don't make him angry"? why is he gonna put people in camps if they don't vote for him? nt

[bling bling]

7. Whoa. That is messsed up.

I cannot even imagine talking so nicely about someone said such a thing about my daughter. Bill made it sound like they're buddies and that if it was Clinton vs. McCain it would be the most polite and friendly election ever.

I wonder if McCain ever apologized for that. I would hope so.

[RoadRage]

8. I'm sure she'll be just as quick to forgive the guy from MSNBC

about the little "Pimped out" comment, right? I mean.. obviously Hillary is a really forgiving person who doesn't hold grudges, right?

Or.. perhaps... this was, umm.. how you say? CALCULATED?

[seabeyond]

9. i have used that to go after mccain. just did it again last week with friend who said wont vote

i wanted her to be disgusted with mccain, outraged, so she would vote, even for clinton.

lets remember.... bush and clintons friends. bill like a son. mccain took shit 2000. now huggin bush. seems like a couple years ago, my feel.... they made a deal (2004, kerry election, both mccain and hillary supposedly like kerry and he was fucked by both) seems to me at that time bush clinton mccain all made a deal for mccain and clinton in 2008.

i kept saying here lately, a couple years ago mccain and clinton race was decided....

geeeez... this is stinking up a storm

and the way hillary is so playing rove moves, every step of the way, so republican

[Catherine Vincent]

10. I heard McCain apologized personally to the Clinton's. nt

[RoadRage]

13. So did that guy from MSNBC...

I'm not sure if it was as well recieved..

[seabeyond]

21. apologize fine. but it tells me what kind of a man he is. i would never respect him

think much of him. but then if bush used my baby during the campaign, insinuating i fucked around on my wife and ended up with a bastard child of mix race.... i wouldnt be huggin bush the way mccain was

[Catherine Vincent]

28. I, personally, would never forgive him.

That's why I can't stand the bastard.

[Ichingcarpenter]

48. But you support him now because Hillary does

Got a link to that apology cat_girl25 or is the normal shit you make up?

[seabeyond]

58. he apologized. big deal. nt

[Catherine Vincent]

86. Who said I support McCain?

What's wrong with you Obamanuts?

[AlinPA]

92. Apologies in politics are usually insincere. "I misspoke" is heavily used.

[washingdem]

26. It didn't cross his mind before he said it that it was wrong? That apology doesn't mean much

[Catherine Vincent]

34. Of course he didn't. He's a republican.

And he was probably drunk when he said it. He was at a party.

[Ichingcarpenter]

57. Now you make up excuses for him

but defend Hillary's exculpation of him

[Tom Joad]

49. Did McCain also apologize to the families of 1 million dead Iraqis?

that's a lot of death. That's a lot of mayhem.

So he is "experienced" enough to be President, by lying us into wars?

What a shit-head hillary is. total dumbass. but i am being nice.

[ecstatic]

11. Thank you! By praising McCain, who made those unforgivable comments

about her one and only child, she has shown that she has no sense of loyalty: not even to her own family! :puke:

[mth44sc]

12. One would think

that one would be a bit hard to get passed...

[KittyWampus]

14. Hillary certainly got angry with Schuster

[merh]

15. and let's not forget

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg

And of course there is no comment on Katrina http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c68Sp5LslbA



Keep the focus folks - keep the focus ...

[nomorewhopper]

16. did mccain really say that?

damn...

[seabeyond]

24. yes he did to a bunch of old white males that laughed and laughed...n/t.

[merh]

31. here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPsn2a2pMMU

[redstate_democrat]

18. Huckalry

cares about Huckalry. She wants to sit at the big desk and feel really, really special. That is all.

[Dinger]

19. Yeah, Put Your Thread Title In Quotes. Safer That Way, Right?

Lots of recs too, cool:sarcasm:

[THUNDER HANDS]

25. you do know that's an actual quote from him right

those are McCain's words, not mine.

[Dinger]

30. You Miss My Point

I wouldn't use a quote from the kkk in a title, and put it in quotes, just to smear Obama. I KNOW they're not your words. In my opinion, you used a phrase in quotes so you could belittle Chelsea. What did SHE ever do to you?

[seabeyond]

33. no.... i dont believe that for a mintue. everyone was disgusted. to this day

everyone is disgusted. as i said, i used that not but a week to outrage a friend to get her to vote for obama or clinton. she doesnt like any so she isnt voting.

i use that to tell people what a pig mccain is.

[City Lights]

40. You're missing the point, which is that HRC is a hypocrite.

McCain, you remember him, right? Hillary's new bff. He said it about her daughter and yet Hillary just loves her some McCain.

David Shuster feels the wrath of Hillary while McCain feels the love. Both men said disgusting things, but McCain's was much worse because when he said it, Chelsea was just a child.

[Dinger]

43. That Is Your Opinion,

nothing more, nothing less.

[rodeodance]

66. If you believe hill likes mccain, it does not say much about your iq!!

[Occam Bandage]

44. If Barack Obama were cuddling up to the KKK, your hyperbolic analogy would be appropriate.

[Dinger]

45. It's Actually Simpler Than That

I'm saying that I think it's a "neat little trick" to put a tasteless quote on a thread title to attack someone else. Slick little way to avoid blame.

[Occam Bandage]

46. Except the point, which was explicitly and repeatedly spelled out for you,

was that Sen. Clinton is acting buddy-buddy with the guy who said that reprehensible line. The point of the thread isn't "John McCain said this," it was "John McCain said this AND HILLARY STILL ACTS LIKE HE'S A GOOD GUY."

Here's a "neat little trick" for you: reading an OP beyond the subject line.

[anigbrowl]

47. Streeeeeeeeetch!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

61. Are you really that goddamned dense?

Your candidate's BEST PAL belittled Chelsea. The OP did not belittle Chelsea. Your opinion, as it turns out, is fatally flawed. And hey, we all say stupid things now and then, but some of us try to test the waters before posting inane crap on the open Internet.

[KaptBunnyPants]

37. Don't confuse them with facts. It's hard enough being a Clinton supporter.

Don't make them know that Mrs. Decider is willing to praise a guy that said such rancid things about her own daughter if it'll help her ensure Hillary '12 is on track.

[Danger Mouse]

38. magicrat, maybe you could edit your post to add that mccain said the remark...

just to clarify...

[THUNDER HANDS]

42. done

[Ichingcarpenter]

20. Hillary loves John McCain

and respects him

[ecstatic]

22. McCain also chuckled along when one of his supporters called Clinton a BITCH

Yet she continuously praises this McCain guy at the expense of Obama. Where is her shame? Someone needs to make a Shame on You video for HRC.

[Ichingcarpenter]

27. How sexist!!! I mean, really. what did Hillary say about it?

Here is what she said...........

[City Lights]

23. Has Hillary hugged her McCain today?

The woman has no principles. Why some are blinded to the obvious is way beyond me. I would love to see her asked about Grampy's comment during a press conference just to see the look on her smug face.

[Purveyor]

29. Chelsea certainly must be conflicted with the fact that her 'parents' only allow her

to have scripted and controlled public appearances while prohibiting interviews with the press.

Certainly not a 'vote of confidence' for their own daughter...

[seabeyond]

36. i am NOT going after chelsea or bill.... what hillary does in this race is open

not personal, but the choices she makes in the campaign is open to discussion. not judging her as mom or anything else

[still_one]

35. very similar to mccain, i.e. birds of a feather. They insulted mccain's wife and family

said he was no hero, and didn't suffer in Viet Nam as a prisoner, and he had no problem supporting bush after that

why would hillary have any problem if they insulted her family?

Actually, what kind of self-respected person would still stay with a spouse who was a serial cheater? That in itself points to a major character flaw in her

[johnnydrama]

51. hmmmm

"How do we beat the bitch"

McCain: "That remark is out of line maam, you shouldn't say that about anybody"

Oh wait, McCain didn't say that, he laughed about it and said "that's an excellent question".

Oh yah, and then he tries to be nice and says he respects anybody who wins the nomination of the "Democrat" party.

This is the man she goes out of her way to praise because she thinks it'll hurt Obama?

[anonymous171]

53. What an asshole McCain is.

[RTDcloak]

54. This is unbelievable

I'm not a Clinton supporter but his comments disgust me. As if he's a looker with that fucked up jaw of his.

[barack the house]

55. HRC is really goingafter our opponent isn't she. oh dear.

[MojoMojoMojo]

60. Just for the record ,Chelsea is looking hot

I have a hard time believing that story.
I think Hillary would have had Mccain publicly neutered if he said that.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

65. I hate to break it to you

but you can see the video for yourself. No matter how much you don't want to believe it, Hillary is singing the praises of the filth that denigrated her daughter. By extension, she is filth herself. I say this as a parent who would NEVER let anyone get by with saying things like this about my kids. But I'm apparently not as craven as John McCain or Hillary Clinton.

[MojoMojoMojo]

67. I havent seen any video.But I do know that Hillary was absolutely

protective of Chelsea through out her childhood.
Oddly it was Saturday Night Live who made a Chelsea joke in the beginning of the Clinton reign.Hillary put her foot down hard and thereafter for 8 years there were no Chelsea jokes in the media.
Which is why I doubt the authenticity of the Mccain joke.
Hillary would have been all over it publicly.
Also I think the media would have made Mccain into a pariah.

[MojoMojoMojo]

68. Do you mean there is a video of Mccain?Where is the link?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

70. see post 31

It's not an actual video. It's a still of McCain, with a laugh track, and his quote printed over his still picture.

So no, I cannot prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that McCain said this, but it is widely quoted, and I've never seen a denial. I have no reason not to believe it happened. Check the link; see what you think.

[MojoMojoMojo]

72. The video with the still photo of Mccain ?Not convincing

No one laughs that idiotically.Well maybe a group of Republicans.
Truthfully I couldnt hear anything but a bunch of laughing hyenas. I still dont believe it.
And BTW I admire Hillary for being protective.

.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

73. that's cool

People keep telling me that Santa isn't real, but I get presents every Christmas. I admire Santa for bringing me stuff.

By the way, I don't believe that the laugh track is from the event where McCain slammed Chelsea. I believe that someone got a still photo, a laugh track from god-knows-where, and the text of the quote, blending them all together for effect (cheesy effect, yes, but effect nonetheless).

Clearly, you're going to believe whatever the hell you want to believe...the earth is flat, and Jesus rode to Sunday School on dinosaurs, and Sean Hannity and Rush must be right about global warming being a hoax because their answer feels right. And so on. In any case, should a bout of critical thinking sneak up on you, you'll note that none of the following Google hits seem to dispute that McCain made this quote. But it's good of you to defend him to the bitter end.
http://www.google.com/search?q=john+mccain+chelsea+clinton&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[NMMNG]

71. Funny how Obama's virtual worship of Ronald Reagan,

the man who began the RRRW takeover of our nation, is no problem whatsoever eyes of his supporters. Yet Hillary says a few words that are positive about McCain and you want her eviscerated and boiled in oil.

The double standard here is beyond belief.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

74. You're having a hard time seeing the difference?

Obama trying to get Reagan Democrat votes (bear in mind, Reagan is what is known as a Dead Guy), as opposed to Hillary Clinton saying that the Republican opponent that either she or Obama will face in November is more qualified to be President than Obama is?

For the record, fuck Ronald Reagan. Furthermore, I wish Obama weren't pandering for those votes, but he is. This in no way compares to the treachery Ms. Clinton has engaged in.

[MojoMojoMojo]

75. I second that ,fuck Ronald Reagan

[NMMNG]

77. I'm having a hard time dealing with people who make excuse after excuse for him

Why does it matter if Reagan is dead? His legacy lives on. The people who were harmed under him and the damage he's inflicted has far outlasted him. And his fans are far from the only people Obama has pandered to for votes. Obama has a habit of pandering to all the wrong people for votes (and throwing Democrats under the bus in the process). Each and every time his supporters are quick to rush to his defense. They don't seem to mind how many people get utterly screwed in the process. It's just politics, after all. Shit's gotta be done when you're trying to win an historic election.

But fucking woe if Hillary Clinton makes a tiny misstep. The vultures are on her like flies on shit. Even if she does nothing the conspiracy theories and accusations that are pulled out of thin air abound. Hillary can do no good, because Obama can do no wrong.

Just go ahead and coronate him already.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

79. throwing under the bus vs. tiny misstep

That's a neat trick.

Which hurts more: being thrown under a bus or being thrown on top of an IED.

Just wondering.

[NMMNG]

80. Good question

I'll go ask Matthew Shepard.

[seabeyond]

85. excuse bullshit..... i think you just had 3 obama people say no to obama using reagan. 3

i have yet to see 1 hillary fan say anything that has bothered them about hillary's campaign. another similarity i am seeing with election 2004

[seabeyond]

83. i am voting for obama and HATED that he cowed and used reagans name. dont know content

that he used the name. i will have to hear it before i just really rip into it, ... but i know it was some way being nice to reagan and probably pandering.

and i hate that he did it

do you see hillary supporters how it is not hard to call out even YOUR choice candidate.

[NorthernSpy]

93. she "likes and respects" the man who joked about her daughter being "ugly", Buffy...

He told that joke in public, back when Chelsea was a kid. The press was there, and it got reported.


But now, Bill says that Hillary and McCain are "close".

[bridgit]

81. Screw you for even posting crap like this here

[seabeyond]

82. well get used to it cause it is going to be used as a reminder a lot about what a pig mccain is

while he is running. it is one of the best examples i know showing mccains character. there was a joke bush would told that i repeated continually to my female friends so they would know what kind of a pig bush is

[NorthernSpy]

90. Tough. Hillary Clinton is not the person you want her to be.

That's all there is to it.


I'm sorry, but that's the way it is, and I can't change it.

[Unbowed]

87. You're right. I wonder if Chelsea has thought about that recently. n/t

[kitkat65]

88. Doesn't say much about McCain's experience or judgement, does it? n/t

[IsItJustMe]

89. It's all about winning for Hillary, and she don't care how she dues it and will do whatever it takes

[apocalypsehow]

91. Excellent post, K & R.

n/t.