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drmom Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:41 AM
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Obama doesn't need to go on the attack he has Olbermann to do it for him
I'm not a frequent Olbermann viewer, but several friends have told me that they stopped watching him because of his obvious Obama bias, so I tuned in tonight to see for myself. I realize that Olbermann is not a regular news guy who has to be fair and objective, but just his tone of voice when reporting anything related to the Clinton campaign is enough to make me never even consider voting for Obama. Just seeing Olbermann eat crow would be a good enough exchange for 4 more years of a republican president. It is this type of reporting that is creating a huge rift in our party, and will come back to haunt us in the general election.

I've realized that itsounds like I'm a republican troll...but truly I am a lifelong Democrat who has never, ever even considered voting for a Republican. I was an Edwards supporter until he left the race, then went to Clinton, although I wasn't terribly convinced. For some reason, I've become increasingly loyal to Clinton the more I've seen her attacked. It's true that she speaks out much more than Obama, but I think that is part of Obama's plan...get others to speak out for him, while Clinton speaks for herself (for better or worse). I can't tell you how many times I've heard local Obama supporters refer to Clinton using the "B" word. Again, I really don't dislike Obama...I think he may make a fine president in a decade or so...but I would not vote for him because I'm afraid that if he wins, his supporters will take it to mean that such bad behavior works. The Obama supporters should really take a lesson from their candidate, who I can't imagine being so overtly mean-spirited.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:42 AM
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1. God Bless Olberman his integrity is not for sale.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:42 AM
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2. And Olbermann will lose half his audience then.
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 12:44 AM by AX10
Bye Olbermann!
Bastard!
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:44 AM
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5. As long as he keeps telling the truth the truth is love so a lie is hate...
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 12:45 AM by barack the house
Iff Hillary blatantly lies to all of us what does it say...
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:45 AM
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7. And I look forward to him being kicked off the air when his audience...
collapses.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:50 AM
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14. I'm glad Skinner lets the crazy droolers post on this board
You guys are nothing if not entertaining.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:51 AM
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18. The only "crazt droolers" are you left wing netroots kooks.
You are the same one's at Huffingtonpost who threated violence at the convention if you don't get your way.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:57 AM
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26. I realize it's hard to understand real democracy from the sofa in your mom's basement
But you're about to get a hard lesson as your wretched little candidate gets kicked to the curb by the will of the people.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:05 AM
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36. She will stay till the end.
She will also get the popular vote too. No one will have 2025 delegates.
Remember that.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:06 AM
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38. News flash: IT'S THE END
Actually, it was the end after Wisconsin. Hillary's just too dumb to know she's already dead.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:07 AM
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39. Actually, HRC is the smart one.
Obama is the dumb one to think that he can bullshit his way into the Whitehouse over McCain.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:10 AM
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43. Check back on January 20th.
I'll be interested in what you thought of President Obama's inaugural address.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:25 AM
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49. Its nice to see another person rooting for McCain.
Guess you have drank the ClintonAide
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:28 AM
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51. She's dead?
OMG! How do you know? Did your dad's dentist's daughter tell her cousin? :rofl:

High comedy here on GDP. High comedy. :rofl:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:25 AM
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48. LOL That was TWO people
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 01:25 AM by proud2Blib
who supposedly told a guy who sent an email to a friend who then posted about it.

Kind of like my cousin's neighbor's boyfriend who told his brother that al qaeda was going to attack us any day now.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:22 AM
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46. It really is becoming high comedy here
LOL
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:02 AM
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34. Good luck with that.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:46 AM
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9. Folks who watch KO support Obama......
the red neck blue collar no education folks who are uniform, they support Hillary by default.

You know that.

Look at her resume, and tell me you don't know that these folks just don't know what they would be in for in a general election?

HILLARY’S Commander In Chief Experience - The Red Phone Test

LISTING HILLARY CLINTON'S RED PHONE EXPERIENCE
ON NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS



Tracing Hillary Clinton's '35 Years' of Experience


All Things Considered, January 24, 2008  When Hillary Clinton makes a campaign appearance, she almost certainly will highlight her experience — 35 years, she says — as one of her qualifications for president.

But Clinton is a little less specific when it comes to describing what exactly she was doing in the years before she became a U.S. senator in 2001.

Suzanne Goldenberg is author of a new book about Clinton, Madam President, and a U.S. correspondent for the British newspaper The Guardian.

Goldenberg says it's difficult to see how Clinton calculates her 35 years of public service, since her fulltime job for many years was working for a corporate law firm in Arkansas.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18391632


After earning her JD from Yale, Clinton worked as a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in DC. In 1974 she failed the DC Bar Exam and decided to move to Arkansas where Bill was running for congress. He did not succeed in this campaign. Both of them took jobs with the Arkansas University, Fayetteville Law School. By 1977, Bill had won the Arkansas Attorney General campaign and Hillary had earned a job with the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock. She continued to be involved politically, urging new laws to recognize children's rights, but her law practice focused on Patent Infringement and Intellectual Property law, though she rarely set foot in a court room. http://doubledemon.newsvine.com/_news/2008/02/06/1282777-obamas-experience-vs-clintons-experience?groupId=1675


Children’s Defense Fund -


Hillary Clinton & the Children's Defense Fund
http://www.peterglenshaw.com/peter_glenshaw_weblog/2008/01/hillary-clinton.html

How Hillary Clinton Betrayed the Children's Defense Fund for Political Gain:
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/034


While Clinton touts her decision to come out of law school and work not for Wall Street but rather for the Children's Defense Fund, the truth is that she spent only a year there. (And then omitted her mentor Marian Wright Edelman from among the 400 others she mentions in the acknowledgemets of her autobiography because Edelman had broken with her when Bill Clinton abolished the federal welfare saftey net in 1996).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-cooper/hillarys-5-million-dump_b_85534.html




She was twice named to the list of “The 100 Most Influential Lawyers in America.” She also represented and later served on the board of Arkansas businesses including TCBY ("Too Good to Be Yoghurt"), and Wal-Mart. As First Lady of Arkansas for twelve years, she chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, Legal Services, and the Children's Defense Fund. Mrs. Clinton wrote a weekly newspaper column entitled "Talking It Over."
http://www.firstladies.org/biographies/firstladies.aspx?biography=43


Wal-Mart


Hillary Clinton and Wal-Mart: A Love Story
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0207-34.htm

Wal-Mart’s First Lady
Hillary’s Past Belies Her Support of Labor

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0021,harkavy,15052,5.html

WalMart Board - 1990





Clinton campaign downplays a large part of her career
By MATT STEARNS
McClatchy-Tribune

WASHINGTON — To hear Hillary Clinton talk, she's spent her entire career putting her Yale Law School degree to work for the common good.

She routinely tells voters that she's "been working to bring positive change to people's lives for 35 years." She told a voter in New Hampshire: "I've spent so much of my life in the nonprofit sector."

The overall portrait is of a lifelong, selfless do-gooder. The whole story is more complicated — and less flattering.
Clinton worked at the Children's Defense Fund for less than a year, and that's the only full-time job in the nonprofit sector she's ever had. She also worked briefly as a law professor.

Clinton spent the bulk of her career — 15 of those 35 years — at one of Arkansas' most prestigious corporate law firms, where she represented big companies and served on corporate boards....
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/5510369.html




Rose Law Firm



Clinton joined Rose in 1976, becoming the venerable firm's first full female partner in 1979, and she continued to work for Rose after husband Bill became governor of Arkansas.

Rose Law Firm focuses primarily on corporate litigation and transactions. She worked primarily on patent infringement and intellectual property litigation, though she did not do much court work. Rose Law Firm is well entrenched in Arkansas' business and political institutions.
http://doubledemon.newsvine.com/_news/2008/02/06/1282777-obamas-experience-vs-clintons-experience?groupId=1675


the Task Force on National Health Care Reform, headed by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton


First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was charged with coming up with a comprehensive plan to provide universal health care for all Americans, which was to be a cornerstone of the administration's first-term agenda.

Hillary Clinton's leading role in this project was unprecedented for a presidential spouse.<11><12> This unusual decision by President Clinton to put his wife in charge of the project has been attributed to several factors, including the President's desire to emphasize his personal commitment to the enterprise.<12>

The First Lady's role in the secret proceedings of the Health Care Task Force also sparked litigation in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, in relation to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA) which requires openness in government. The Clinton White House argued that the Recommendation Clause in Article II of the U.S. Constitution would make it unconstitutional to apply the procedural requirements of FACA to Hillary's participation in the meetings of the Task Force. Some constitutional experts argued to the court that such a legal theory was not supported by the text, history, or structure of the Constitution.<13>Ultimately, Hillary Clinton won the litigation when the D.C. Circuit ruled narrowly that the First Lady of the United States can be deemed a government official (and not a mere private citizen) for purposes of not having to comply with the procedural requirements of FACA.<14>

In 1993, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, along with several other groups, filed a lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and Donna Shalala? over closed-door meetings related to the health care plan. The AAPS sued to gain access to the list of members of the task force. Judge Royce C. Lamberth found in favor of the plaintiffs and awarded $285,864 to the AAPS for legal costs; Lamberth also harshly criticized the Clinton administration and Clinton aide Ira Magaziner in his ruling.<15> Subsequently, a federal appeals court overturned the award and the initial findings on the basis that Magaziner and the administration had not acted in bad faith.<16>

Starting on September 28, 1993, Hillary Clinton appeared for several days of testimony before five congressional committees on health care.<9> Opponents of the bill organized against it before it was presented to the Democratic-controlled Congress on November 20, 1993.<9> The bill was a complex proposal running more than 1,000 pages, the core element of which was an enforced mandate for employers to provide health insurance coverage to all of their employees through competitive but closely-regulated health maintenance organizations (HMOs).

The 1994 mid-term election became a "referendum on big government — Hillary Clinton had launched a massive health-care reform plan that wound up strangled by its own red tape."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Clinton_health_care_plan





Ireland




The Facts
Chris Thornton, a political reporter for the Belfast Telegraph, said that Hillary Clinton's visits to northern Ireland contributed to the "mood music" that made an eventual settlement possible, but were hardly key to reaching an agreement. "Would we have reached a settlement without that kind of stuff? Yes. Would we have got one without the intervention of Bill Clinton and George Mitchell? No."

Hillary is making a lot more of her Northern Ireland role on the campaign trail than she did in her memoir "Living History." As the Boston Globe recently noted, her stories of bringing Protestant and Catholic women together have become more dramatic with each retelling. The claim that she brought Catholics and Protestants together "for the first time" seems dubious. This would not be the first time that she has mixed up her chronology.

The Pinocchio Test
Hillary Clinton seems to be overstating her significance as a catalyst in the Northern Ireland peace process, which was more symbolic than substantive. On the other hand, she did play a helpful role at the margins, by encouraging organizations like Vital Voices, a women's group that takes a stand against extremism. One Pinocchio for exaggeration.


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/01/clinton_and_northern_ireland.html






China


During a 1995 visit to Beijing, at a time when her husband's administration was trying to press China on human rights, Sen. Clinton made a speech condemning abuses.


Kosovo


In May of 1999, she was in Macedonia visiting refugee camps near the Kosovo border and meeting with Macedonia's president and prime minister.

Sources with knowledge of her visit say she discussed the refugees' plight with those leaders. It's not clear how much she helped since CNN reported at the time that Macedonia reopened its border to Kosovar refugees before Clinton's visit.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/06/clinton.foreign.fact/




Senator From New York


Upon entering the United States Senate, Clinton maintained a low public profile, built relationships with senators from both parties and forged alliances with religiously-inclined senators by becoming a regular participant in the Senate Prayer Breakfast.

Clinton has served on five Senate committees: Committee on Budget (2001–2002), Committee on Armed Services (since 2003), Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001),<207> Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (since 2001) and Special Committee on Aging.
She is also a Commissioner of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (since 2001).


Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, Clinton sought to obtain funding for the recovery efforts in New York City and security improvements in her state. Working with New York's senior senator, Charles Schumer, she was instrumental in quickly securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment. She subsequently took a leading role in investigating the health issues faced by 9/11 first responders.

Clinton voted for the USA Patriot Act in October 2001. In 2005, when the act was up for renewal, she worked to address some of the civil liberties concerns with it, before voting in favor of a compromise renewed act in March 2006 that gained large majority support.

Clinton strongly supported the 2001 U.S. military action in Afghanistan, saying it was a chance to combat terrorism while improving the lives of Afghan women who suffered under the Taliban government.

Clinton voted in favor of the October 2002 Iraq War Resolution.

In September 2007 she voted in favor of a Senate resolution calling on the State Department to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps "a foreign terrorist organization", which passed 76-22.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton



she opposes the international treaty to ban land mines.

She voted against the Feinstein-Leahy amendment last September restricting U.S. exports of cluster bombs to countries that use them against civilian-populated areas.

She opposes restrictions on U.S. arms transfers and police training to governments that engage in gross and systematic human rights abuses, such as Egypt, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Israel, Pakistan, Cameroon and Chad, to name only a few.

She has challenged the credibility of Amnesty International and other human rights groups that criticize policies of the United States and its allies.
Mrs. Clinton has been one of the Senate’s most outspoken critics of the United Nations, even serving as the featured speaker at rallies outside U.N. headquarters in July 2004 and last summer to denounce the world body.

She was one of the most prominent critics of the International Court of Justice for its landmark 2004 advisory ruling that the Fourth Geneva Conventions on the Laws of War is legally binding on all signatory nations.

She condemned the United Nations’ judicial arm for challenging the legality of Israel’s separation barrier in the occupied West Bank and sponsored a Senate resolution “urging no further action by the United Nations to delay or prevent the construction of the security fence.”

Mrs. Clinton has shown little regard for the danger from proliferation of nuclear weapons, not only opposing the enforcement of U.N. Security Council resolutions challenging Pakistan, Israel and India’s nuclear weapons programs but supporting the delivery of nuclear-capable missiles and jet fighters to these countries. This past fall she voted to suspend important restrictions on U.S. nuclear cooperation with countries that violate the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

At the same time, she insists that the prospect of Iran’s developing nuclear weapons “must be unacceptable to the entire world,” since challenging the nuclear monopoly of the United States and its allies in the region would somehow “shake the foundation of global security to its very core.”

She accused the Bush administration of not taking the threat of a nuclear Iran seriously enough, criticized the administration for allowing European nations to take the lead in pursuing a diplomatic solution and insisted that the United States should make it clear that military options were still being actively considered.
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0309-23.htm














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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:31 AM
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52. K&R!
Great post FC!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:56 AM
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:48 AM
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10. He'll lose those who don't want the truth.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:17 AM
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45. KO has not lost any of his audience.
The latest ratings according to the TV Newser website have his show in a solid second place beating out both CNN and Headline News. Of course he trails Faux News but he is up against the #1 show on all of cable news. And he actually trails by a smaller margin than he used to.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:26 AM
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50. He lost me for sure.
I haven't watched a single second since tuning in one night and seeing him rant about Hillary like a bag lady telling off an imaginary enemy.

In my book he won't be missed.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:57 AM
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69. I am starting to HATE Olbermann.
IT'S BITCH-OUT HILLARY for the full 60 minutes of his show. I will NOT watch him anymore if this is what he's gonna do. He is going to lose me and I was one of his loyal followers.

Olbermann......you are really showing your "hatred" towards women!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:43 AM
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3. You'd rather have four-to-eight years of McCain than Obama as President. Gotcha.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:43 AM
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4. Thank God for KO!
Hillary endorses McCain, and we are mean spirited.

OK. Whatever! :eyes:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:45 AM
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6. Go KO!!
Keeping it real!!
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:45 AM
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8. God, I love Olbermann. And your whining just made me love him more.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:49 AM
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11. This is how Hillary comes across to many.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:49 AM
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12. Don't open your eyes now, but it's Hillary creating a huge rift in our
party.

Olbermann is just pointing out the obvious.

And it's Clinton doing the attacking. And it's Clinton exhibiting "bad behavior." But I'm sure your loyalty to her prevents you from seeing it.



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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:50 AM
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13. Gotta hand it to the Clinton supporters, they are extremely loyal
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:23 AM
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47. Yes just like W - What does that tell ya??? Too bad they don't believe the truth - it is out there!
:shrug:
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:34 AM
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55. Blindly, ignorantly so
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drmom Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:34 AM
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56. No, I do see what people are talking about...
...I see two politicians fighting for their lives...but as I said, I see Hillary doing her own dirty work and Obama having people do it for him. So people think he is staying out of the bickering, when in fact it takes two sides to fight.

I also see and hear the tone in Olbermann's voice. It is much more than just reporting the obvious, it is pure hatred.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:52 AM
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71. Hillary has plenty of surrogates out there doing dirty work on her behalf.
Her "better" half, Cuomo, Buffenbarger, and Johnson are just a few names that come to mind off the top of my head. To suggest she's out there doing all the dirty lifting on her own tells me that someone is viewing the situation through Hillary-colored glasses.

Obama has not remained completely above the fray. But unlike his opponent, he sticks to criticizing her on the issues, and avoids the melodramatic outbursts that we've come to associate with Hillary. He lands a punch, and apparently, her supporters don't even notice.

KO calls it like he sees it. And Like me, he is fed up with Team Clinton. She is no longer defensible, and I'm glad there is someone out there willing to point out the absurdity that is her campaign.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:51 AM
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15. And every other objective liberal pundit in the country
KO just does it a bit better. :applause:
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:51 AM
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16. Dumb and Dumber
I don't mind the democratic bias, but the obvious bj's of Obama are bit much. He acts like he's his secret lover...is Ober gay? I am not being mean just asking if he might have crush on him.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:53 AM
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22. I'm sorry -- did a Hillaroid just mention BLOW JOBS?
:rofl:

And, by the way, you can stick your homophobic bullshit where the sun don't shine.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:05 AM
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37. Oh but didn't you know? Homophobia is never problematic when it's a supporter of Her Majesty.
When it's Obama it becomes a cudgel to beat him with, worthy of endless threads, and dredged up whenever things aren't going well for Hillary. But Hillary can surround herself with homophobes and still be viewed as a stalwart supporter of the LGBT community.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:34 AM
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57. LOL! Good one :-)
This OP and whole crazy attack on KO blows my mind!
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:58 AM
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28. Is that the best you can do? Now KO is gay.... whatever!
If he was... what would be your problem? Would he deserve to lose his job because of it? You just told alot about yourself with that hate comment.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:39 AM
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62. Give that man a CI-GAR
:rofl:


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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:51 AM
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17. Olbermann was great until he dissented against the charismatic leader.
Now the Clintonistas have declared Olbermann to be EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL!!!

And they say the Obama supporters are a cult...
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:52 AM
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19. Whoa this is scary.....the many faces of Hill
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:52 AM
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20. Clinton continuing to put McCain before a fellow democrat is what will cause a rift in the party.
Who gives a hoot what olberman says. Just change the channel. It makes zero sense to vote one way or another because of what a t.v. personality says.

You'd rather go to war with Iran than allow Keith Olberman to have his way? Yea, that makes a ton of sense. Not trying to be rude or anything, just sayin...
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drmom Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:39 AM
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61. Now, I saw that differently
...to me it seemed that she was trying to show that she would be a better match for McCain than would Obama. I thought that is what candidated do in a primary race.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:53 AM
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21. KO is a very arrogant man. I think he is probably a narcissist. nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:54 AM
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24. OMG! A national television figure is ARROGANT!
That's quite some scoop you've got there, Jimmy. :rofl:
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:58 AM
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29. Olbermann is distinctly arrogant. At this level
of bloated ego, I'd say he probably has narcissistic personality disorder. It's very off-putting. I stopped watching long before he got a hate-on for Hillary.

...Oh and my name is not Jimmy.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:42 AM
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65. Gonna send Keith a bill for that diagnoses Dr Frist?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:53 AM
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23. KO is just preaching to the choir at this point.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:08 AM
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40. The choir is getting bigger by the day
The progressive community is growing increasingly impatient with the petulant antics and sheer arrogance of Queen Hillary. If a lot of people are saying the same thing, it just might be because it's true.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:57 AM
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25. Can anyone belive ths crap ?
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:58 AM
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27. I have quit watching his show and Air Obama
they can all go to hell.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:59 AM
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32. Elect Hillary -- we'll all go there together
:crazy:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:58 AM
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30. "Hillary is NUTS"
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:59 AM
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31. Is this a hit-and-run post?
Paging drmom...paging drmom...
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:00 AM
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33. HRC supporters say that these are good politics so...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:05 AM
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35. You were for Edwards and then you went
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 01:05 AM by zidzi
to the lying corporateshill, hilary, who has done nothing but swill in this campaign and you expect us to believe you're voting for hilary because KO is bringing up hilary's endorsement of mccain and her little 3am terror ad?

Go with the fear card, go with the whiner..hilary depends on supporters who have no powers of observation but can really get into the fear factor.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:08 AM
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41. I don't understand how an Edwards supporter could ever go to Clinton
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:38 PM
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77. Me neither, and that's worth
repeating! :)
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:08 AM
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42. I don't understand how an Edwards supporter could ever go to Clinton
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:33 AM
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54. What the fuck? Could you be any more nasty and insulting?
For your information people who disagree with your opinion don't deserve to be insulted. People are entitled to support whoever they choose. How old are you?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:37 PM
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76. buzzoff ..it's none of your
freakin' business how old I am.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:12 AM
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44. Olbermann is great!
I love Keith, he has not been afraid to tell the truth EVER!

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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:32 AM
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53. Tell the truth and shame the devil....Olberman Rocks n/t
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:38 AM
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59. Yes, he does! He is my whole and ONLY reason for paying the Dish extra for MSNBC. n/t
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:37 AM
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58. He attacks Hillary much more than he does McCain.
Maybe he'd rather see McCain in there than Hillary.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:40 AM
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63. Agree. I miss the days when he went after the real enemies
I love Keith but he is way over the top with the Hillary hating. I can barely stand to watch anymore. He is NOT doing the dems any favors.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:59 AM
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66. Perhaps when Obama goes all "kitchen sink" on Clinton, Keith will
report it. I know the Clintonistas feel that it does matter how she wins, as long as she wins. But to employ the very tactics that we came to despise in the 90's when used against them, is the height of hipocrisy on your part.

Keith will be fine if a few of Team Hillary tune out. He can't be bought or silenced just because the truth hurts. We've seen him go up against the most devious & corrupt administration ever, and yet he survives.

If you think the media's been unfair to Ms. McClinton, just wait until she rips off the nomination.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:42 AM
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64. McCain can wait. His campaign right now is about as interesting as watching wet paint dry. n/t
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 01:44 AM by chill_wind
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:44 PM
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78. McCain's not doing anything at the moment.
Hillary is the one doing the bad stuff, and Olbermann is calling her on it.
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:38 AM
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60. That's very mature - blame the messenger.
She's the one doing the deeds -- not his reporting it. That kind of thinking is what has screwed up our country!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 03:57 AM
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67. Yes, it's "attacking" by pointing-out hypocrisy, outright lies ...
... and unbelievably bad form of endorsing another party's candidate.

Dog bless Keith Olbermann, then.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:41 AM
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68. I agree, drmom.
I don't watch KO anymore because I can't take his nonsense. He's a cheap hack who uses humor to denigrate others.

Good observation though, about Obama. Obama gets others to do his dirty work for him. He tells the press what he wants reported and says Hillary is mean to him so they have to step up the attacks on her, because he's too nice to do that.

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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 05:06 AM
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70. That's why I prefer Jon Stewart. He pokes fun at all the candidates equally.
Hillary came across very well in her appearance on Monday night's The Daily Show.

I loved her answer to Jon Stewarts first question "Yes it is pretty pathetic!" ;-)

I also loved Wednesday's show when they compared Hillary's Ohio speech with a beer commercial! B-)

You can watch The Daily Show online at www.thedailyshow.com
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:00 AM
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72. You said it!!
You sound just like a repuke troll. I'm so sick of the fucking selfish idiots from both sides who say they won't vote for the nom if it's not their candidate. It's disgusting. And judging a candidate by a few of his online supporters is supremely stupid.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:10 AM
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73. He's lost this viewer forever. I won't get over it, even if he turns down the vitriol.
We used to record Olberman and he was a must see part of our day. NEVER AGAIN. If Hillary wins the nomination he will probably be shilling for McCain. That is how bad the MSNBC propaganda has become. I have no doubt that the MSNBC "news" people are being paid huge bonuses for attacking her.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:47 PM
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79. I understand how hurtful the truth can be.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:12 AM
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74. Thanks heavens for Olbermann cutting through the current Clinton love fest
and getting to the truth. Apparently - judging from this thread - the truth really does hurt.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 03:01 PM
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80. he's a macho manly man, and hip, cool, and edgy, so naturally he's pushing O. nt
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