Top Obama advisor goes berserk

[Seeker30]

They'll all be institutionalized by the time Hillary is done with them.

:rofl:


Samantha Power told The Scotsman Mrs Clinton was stopping at nothing to try to seize the lead from Mr Obama.

“We fucked up in Ohio,” she admitted. “In Ohio, they are obsessed and Hillary is going to town on it, because she knows Ohio’s the only place they can win.

“She is a monster, too – that is off the record – she is stooping to anything,” Ms Power said, hastily trying to withdraw her remark.

“Interestingly, the people in her innermost circle seem to not mind her; I think they really love her.”…

“You just look at her and think: ergh. But if you are poor and she is telling you some story about how Obama is going to take your job away, maybe it will be more effective. The amount of deceit she has put forward is really unattractive.”

[Bluebear]

1. "She is a monster, too – that is off the record" - wow,

[casus belli]

2. Berserk?

I think many would say they share her sentiments, her campaign tactics have turned off a lot of people in the last couple weeks. And there are more colorful words she could have called her that would have had equal impact.

PS, if someone calling someone a monster offends you...what are you doing in GD: P?

[Seeker30]

3. You're misguided, not offended, its funnier than hell

to see these people lose it and show their true colors.

[casus belli]

6. Well, if you call that "losing it"

there may be safer places for you to play then the internet. Not to mention this is a really weak attack. You should at least act like you're trying, no?

[Seeker30]

7. Yea right, that was a well thought out rational statement

:rofl:

[casus belli]

9. Just following your lead.

This is the most rational topic I've ever seen. And you, a most rational author.

I dub thee Sir Ad Homino

[hedgehog]

80. Considering the topic, yeah, that's a perfectly rational statement.

Maybe Ms. Powers was thinking of cluster bombs when she said it.

[angie_love]

36. well by your definition you're "Berserk" b/c you made some pretty nasty comments about Obama yoursel

[olkaz]

62. Lose it? Show their true colors?

Like this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/04/clinton-mccain ...
"I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002."

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14809.htm...
“I think that since we now know Sen. McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold,” the New York senator told reporters crowded into an infant’s bedroom-sized hotel conference room in Washington.

“I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy,” she said."

[susankh4]

66. Bwahahhaaaaaa....

Shoe's on the other foot now, I see....

[SoCalDem]

64. yup.. I wish people would quit apologizing for honest assessments.

She spoke HER mind..and "taking it back" does not change anything.. She should have just said.."Oops I thought it was off the record..oh well "..

[casus belli]

71. Exactly.

No one comes down on the reporter for printing off-the-record comments. Not that they should because this is really a non-issue but I think it shows how easily well-meaning interviews get to be scandal starters. I can understand why she would have wanted it off the record, as it was a personal comment thrown in which may or may not reflect the views of the person she's representing, but you're right. They should have just owned it and moved on.

Or, she could have issued a non-denial, "I take Hillary at her word that she is not a monster."

"As far as I know."

[SoCalDem]

73. Oooh. that's a good one...and it could have been delivered by a 3AM phone call

:rofl:

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

4. I wonder what her DU username is, don't you?

That sounds like a daily post in GDP.

[Seeker30]

5. And you can bet there's no way in hell Ohio would support him now

In the general election. Nice move Obama

[O.M.B.inOhio]

16. Please don't speak for Ohio. Let me tell you about a call I got from the HRC offices.

They call up, like everybody else, before the primary, Fine.

"I am supporting Hillary for President because, well, I'm kind of scared of the other guy. You know, Hillary has been working for change for many years now.... So can I count on your support for Hillary tomorrow?"

I don't ask, "So where is this change she's been working for? Did I miss the memo?" No, I say, "No, I am not leaning toward Senator Clinton."

The caller asks, "Is it because she is a woman?"

And insulting Dem voters help inspire us for Hillary?

This seems to be the same flavor of politicking that produced the "3am" ad. It tastes Republican. Perhaps a bit monstrous. I sure loved Hillary Clinton in Bill's first term. Somewhere along the line she seems to have become a Politician, a phoney. Another shade of red. I was all for her when she tried to get health care reformed. When she speaks of her good-intentioned initiatives that have failed, it reminds me of when Bush said in a debate against Gore, "I have a lot of experience in business." (Sadly, Gore did not point out that it doesn't count if you run the businesses into the ground." Also, her talk of leadership sounds like the top-down, autocratic Bush model, whereas Obama leadership is partnership. Is he the best candidate in the world? Does he have a hothead speaking for him? He has given hope, potential to bring out the vote like never before, and has never disappointed me or left me with a Republican aftertaste (forgive the mixed metaphors.)

[Vinca]

38. I thought it was funny - she is like a monster because she keeps

coming back from the dead. Like Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, sitting up all bloody after being drowned in the bathtub by Michael Douglas. Now, of course, we learned the last time she came back it was based on a NAFTA lie/smear against Obama. Wonder how those Ohio voters feel now that it comes out Hillary told Canada to take her NAFTA position with a grain of salt.

[yellerpup]

39. When the red phone rings at 3 AM

She will roll over and say, "Wake up, Bill. It's for you."

[Seeker30]

46. And Powers will pick up the phone and start screaming

"Fuck off you obsessed monsters! I'm sleeping!"

[OzarkDem]

78. Ohio already spoke

and the majority voted for Clinton.

[mmonk]

8. Samantha Power tells it like it is. She's a major reason I'm in

Obama's camp. She just doesn't triangulate or nuance.

[Tellurian]

23. She needs to be on medication. She's becoming delusional and disconnected from reality..

She could be in the throws of a nervous breakdown because the pressure is too much for her. She thrives in an academic setting... the real world is not her venue.

[mmonk]

33. Maybe if she sat in a corner and allowed

the constant attacks on "foreign policy" issues concerning Obama's lack of "experience" by people on right of the spectrum that have given us this utter crap our nation is in, the nation would be better off? No, the more rational and sane do not need medication.

[bleowheels]

67. Your post could easily describe Hillary as well.

Hillary sure knows a thing or two about delusion and being disconnected.

[Tellurian]

72. Hill is not resigning because she's tough enough to take the daily bullshit doled out by attackers.

Hillary stands head and shoulders over Samantha Powers. There's a difference between someone who may be comfortable in an insulated academic sphere...and someone who possess the qualities noteworthy of academia and easily navigates the day to day tribulations of a moving target rationally balanced.

Samantha Powers could never dream to walk in Hillary's shadow. Powers does one thing well.

[BearSquirrel2]

69. If you think Hillary can overcome Obama's lead ...

If you think Hillary can overcome Obama's delegate lead, you're the delusional one. She can only deny him from getting a majority and force a brokered convention. There she can bribe and bully and try to get what she wants instead of what the people want.

[JTFrog]

10. UPDATE:

UPDATE: Statement from Samantha Power: These comments do not reflect my feelings about Sen. Clinton, whose leadership and public service I have long admired. I should not have made these comments and I deeply regret them. It is wrong for anyone to pursue this campaign in such negative and personal terms. I apologize to Sen. Clinton and to Sen. Obama, who has made very clear that these kinds of expressions should have no place in American politics.

Statement from Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton: Sen. Obama decries such characterizations, which have no place in this campaign.


In my opinion this is just another boomerang come back in her direction. Let's not cry foul when your player kicked the ball out of bounds to begin with. I'm sure Clinton and her supporters realize that an apology after the fact makes it all better, right?


And only a very sheltered person would consider this "berserk".

*edit - add link, cuz someone will eventually ask for it, even tho the O.P. provided none. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/obama-foreign-p.html

[Window]

25. Well done Samantha and Obama. This needed an apology. I would, however,

suggest that, in the future, they just come here to GD-P to get their rant on. LOL!

Samantha should know that nothing is off the record when speaking to any reporter.

By the way, just heard Hillary's camp pain is SHOCKED!

[cali]

11. Samantha Power fucked up- but she's hardly beserk

She's not a politician. Not even close. She is a brilliant scholar, but somehow I think you haven't a clue as to her accomplishments. Scholarly isn't up your alley, huh?

[Seeker30]

14. I don't give a rats ass about her accomplishments

And they didnt teach you this word on your way to becoming a rhodes scholar?

ber·serk (bər-sûrk', -zûrk', bə-) Pronunciation Key
adj.

1. Destructively or frenetically violent: a berserk worker who started smashing all the windows.
2. Mentally or emotionally upset; deranged:

[earthlover]

18. she is not "deranged" either

Apparently you are the one doing a lot of name calling here.

Are you emotionally upset or do you just enjoy calling people deranged?

[Liberal In Texas]

24. She's not berserk. It seems she's just more inexperienced in guarding her statements

to members of the press. She thought she was talking off the record. The Scotsman reporter probably should have honored that, but since she didn't arrange for an "off the record" statements beforehand, he figured he had the technical right to quote her. In fact, near the end of the article The Scotsman felt the need to justify publishing her remarks by expounding about what they consider to be on and off the record. Savvy politicians and staffers know these rules, but she is obviously inexperienced in the nuances of talking to reporters.

Calling her berserk distorts reality.

Read the whole article at:

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Inside-US-poll-battle-as.3854371.jp

[cali]

21. Of course you don't.

Uneducated, ignorant folks wouldn't. And by your definition, dirty hilly is beserk with her idiot comparisons of Obama to KKKarl Rove and bush. duh.

[11 Bravo]

32. Thank for helping me win a bet.

I took the "under" on when your rational, even-handed phase would end, and you would morph back into the persona to which you are obviously more suited.

[mmonk]

17. Nope, not a politician. She's in this fight for different reasons.

[Perry Logan]

12. Politics drives us all nuts at one time or another.

[mmonk]

49. Thanks for being rational about it.

She's known for her foreign policy mind. Most of the attacks on Obama have been on foreign policy from political opposition and her expertise is in that arena. She's a human being that took offense because in a sense, she feels the attacks reflect on her. She's not a politician.

[Gore1FL]

13. compared to those made by Wolfson, Ickes, and Penn

her statements seem pretty rational.

[0007]

15. Just don't want to talk about Canada and being caught in another Rovian

lie.

[Freida5]

19. If Obama doesn't fire her today, you got to question his ethics and his judgement.

[jgraz]

22. Exactly -- she's Blackwater's PR flack who's charging them $10 million to fuck up their campaign!

Plus, she's really fucking ugly.





She should be fired immediately!!!

[shrub chipper]

74. a sexist comment

from a Hillary supporter

surely not

[mmonk]

28. Why would he fire one of best minds out there?

She hasn't won a pulitzer prize for nothing. Oh, that's right, the people that smear democrats, use the elctions for power play control of the party, and attack dishonestly every day since they got behind and have shown no moral bounds are complaining about Samantha's comments they have forced through their underhanded personal attack tactics. The questionable ethics are in the Clinton camp.

[seabeyond]

40. an apology works and always has for something like this. and the apology is already out

now it is time for the hillary folk to accept or it is a question of their integrity

[Carolina]

20. the truth is the truth

She is stopping at nothing to try to seize the lead from Mr Obama!

Frankly, I don't have a problem with her comments because THEY ARE TRUE!

[bowens43]

26. You forgot the 'berserk' part.

are lies, distortions and asinine rhetoric all you people have left?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. Politics Is A Blood Sport

Ms. Powers is entitled to her opinion... Team Clinton has clearly got in their heads...

It reminds me of Dennis Rodman... He would always mess with his opponent's heads and end up taking them out of their game...

[Enrique]

29. not berserk, but a mistake

good for Obama campaign that they apologized.

[Olney Blue]

30. She misspoke, and apologized. Everyone's nerves are getting raw.

[Maribelle]

31. Has Obama fired her yet?

He should have.

[angie_love]

34. Nope and they shouldn't fire her. She is BRILLIANT. Way smarter than everyone on hills campaign comb

combined.

[Maribelle]

41. They most certainly should fire her. Her comment was beyond STUPID, it was dripping with hate

And even further beyond stupid, her demeaning insult to the voters of Ohio is something that would be used by Republicans in the GE should Obama get that far.

Obama says he is for hope and change, and surrounds himself with his inner circle of good old-fashioned political hate mongers. Why?

IF Obama does not fire her - - the good old-fashioned forked-tongue mantra could be liberally applied to him.

[angie_love]

54. Hillary has been a monster as of late, praising McCain and throwing a fellow democrat under the bus

That is a monstrous act indeed. Sorry that Samantha who is brilliant and gorgeous is not the politician you want her to be. She says her mind. And what she says is true.

[Seeker30]

45. Yea, real brilliant

Not only did she trash the voters of Ohio but since she is also Obamas foreign policy advisor she most likely will hold a position of power if he's elected. Just be a matter of time before she lost it again and said something like that about the leader of China and started WWIII.

And we thought we had nutcases in the White House now.

[angie_love]

55. Good, I hope she holds power in his office b/c she is smart as hell.

Shes not a politician and she doesn't mince words. I'd rather have that than Hillary McClinton endorsing a fucking repug and throwing a democrat under the bus. She might as well change her last name to Leiberman. Fuck her, I'm so done with her.

[seabeyond]

35. no... but the woman has apologized for it... in the thread above UPDATE

got the job done

[Maribelle]

43. Has Hillary accepted her apology? Did she even bother to apologize to Hillary?

Or did Power merely spit into the wind?

[seabeyond]

53. if you will look above the thread, power put out a nice apology.

i dont know that hilary has accepted or not. power did her part.

[Hope And Change]

37. Samantha is actually right here....

Billary is a monster and would do anything to win this election.But I would rather call Billary a bitch instead.

:sarcasm:

[Maribelle]

44. lol If she was right then why did she apologize, admitting she was wrong?

Please do try to keep up.

[mmonk]

47. Politics is why.

[angie_love]

57. exactly. Nothing like being an average citizen to know I can speak my mind and say

Hillary is turning into a traitorous monster. I say that loud, clear and sincerely.

[Catchawave]

42. How will she survive the GOP "monsters" ?

They're not even off page one of their playbook :rofl:

[bdamomma]

48. desperate people do desperate things

we need to unite as a Party, the repigs are just watching and listening and getting ready for their next attack on us. We are playing right into the repigs hands. All this smearing and bickering is not helping our Party, I wish a certain candidate to grow up, and choose words very carefully.

[Iceburg]

50. SP is the soul mate and protege of Michael Ignatieff who tried to sell the Iraq

war via his essays in the New York Times in the run up to the war. He worked with the neo-cons to actively promote the Iraq war. When the Iraq war didn't pan out as Michael expected, he fled back to Canada (where he was born) and made a unsuccessful bid for the head of the Liberal party in 2006. He was defeated on his pro-military, pro Palestine views. Many of his essays from the New York Times (especially the ones advocating/rationalizing torture e.g. "The Lesser of Two Evils, NYT) as well as several of his speeches/lectures given as a Harvard prof sunk his ship. He recruited Powers to replace him. Ignatieff and Powers are 2 peas in a pod with dangerous military interventionist view points couched in human right speak.
Offensive as it is to most Liberal leaning Canadians, Ignatieff is currently an elected member of the Liberal party of Canada.
More on Michael...http://murphyspoint.blogspot.com/2006/11/exposing-michael-ignatieff-compendium.html

more on

Huffinton Post: The "New" Politics: Top Obama Advisor Caught Calling Hillary Clinton "A Monster"

We certainly know what the uproar would be if a senior Clinton advisor was caught calling Barack Obama "A MONSTER"...

"I have been very clear to my campaign. I do not want to see research that is involved in trying to tear people down personally. If I find out that somebody is doing that, they will be fired. And I have been absolutely crystal clear about this, and I have been clear about this for a very long time." - Barack Obama - December 2007

[mmonk]

52. Rove is that you?

Again, acuse the opposition of what you are. I have Samantha Power's books. I haven't found where she is an advocate for what you say. She is really big on International approaches and more on an humanitarian side and the U.N..

[Lerkfish]

51. if it was off the record, it should not have been used as a quote.

but beyond that, I don't see this as someone going beserk, I see this as someone seeing reality as it is.

[Maribelle]

56. She was too late in throwing out that 'off the record' trick.

[Lerkfish]

58. no, the way it works is: if a source says "off the record" and a reporter

agrees to that classification, the reporter is wrong to report it.
A reporter CAN go back and ask if an off the record comment can be made on the record, but that's it.
Apparently, the reporter was in the wrong here, not the source.

[RunningFromCongress]

59. She is a monster. I would have let that stand. Clinton will try to win no matter what.

She's a female version of Bush II

[seabeyond]

60. look how many obama supporter say powers fucked up.good apologized.clinton folks, learn

from this. i have yet to see any hillary supports at any time call out anything hillary has done, or her people. they have only defended, ignored, justified or made excuses for.

not so hard to say candidate or his people made a mistake and then correct the mistake. you cannot ever correct a mistake if you never admit it. repulicans, bush and two years olds have a tough time with this one. but once you get past it, it is much easier.

[awaysidetraveler]

61. A monsterous remark, reported by a more monsterous reporter about a monsterous candidate.

Why don't you work a little harder at tearing our party apart?

[ProSense]

63. "Hillary is NUTS"

Olbermann: "Hillary is NUTS" (Video)

Warlord

Powers apologized, but she has a point!

[BigDDem]

65. "...she knows Ohio’s the only place they can win"

Newsflash Monster Mash:

She won CA, TX, OH, MA, NY, NJ.......
she was unable to take Idaho and Vermont though.

:rofl:

[BearSquirrel2]

68. The keyword was "off the record"

... If it's off record it doesn't exist. It's not a public position.

BTW, I cede the Ohio race to Hillary but note that the dittoheads padded her lead.

[Kukesa]

70. Yes, they did. Take a peek at our Ohio forum for back-up. n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

75. So, what exactly is the problem with what she said? Hillary's lies ARE monstorous.

[izzybeans]

76. It's 3 o'clock and the phone from the Rwandan Genocide is still ringing in the Clinton White House.

Professor Power knows just how monstrous it was.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-cooper/clinton-genocide-and-a-c_b_90436.html

[OzarkDem]

77. Ohio didn't buy what Obama was selling

so the so-called "geniuses" in his campaign went on a rant and called Hillary names like a bunch of third graders.

Thank Goddess can you imagine what a mess it would be having these fools in the WH?

[BeyondGeography]

79. Jim Morrison would not be a Hillary fan