What happens to Clinton "momentum" MSM narrative after Wyoming caucus & Miss. Primary?

[npincus]

Obama is expected to win both, so what does that do to the "Hillary Comeback" story line the media's been pushing furiously? My hunch is that the Miss. victory will be treated as a given, citing the large African-American demographic while ignoring the huge white demographic in Wyoming (92%) and treating it as just an underpopulated, shitty fly-over state.

The MSM needs to keep Hillary in the game; there's nothing they'd like better than a bloody campaign up until the convention, watch the party tear itself apart while selling the GOP unity and McCain's nobility, McCain the War Hero, McCain the Underdog.

Great. Whoever wins our nomination, a Pyhrric victory.

[my3boyz]

1. They will ignore it because Hillary told them those states do not matter!nt

[stillcool]

28. you are right...

they do not matter. Pennsylvania is the next state that the Clinton's believe they will do well in...so that is the only state that matters now. Of course, the non-Primary-election in Florida is also very important as well. Michigan..not so much. Why is that?

[Jawja]

2. Its ON TO PENNSYLVANIA.

That's what the GOP Corporate Media is doing now. All the analysis about Pennsylvania and "if Pennsylvania will decide the race??"

I actually heard that last night on MSNBC (Tweety's show).

The "mainstream" corporate media is fanning the flames of this contest and in order to do it, they are giving Clinton lots of free ad time (keep playing the red phone ad because it is "evidence" it helped her scare Texans) and they are pushing the CURRENT Michigan and Florida delegates as a BIG ISSUE, even though the Democrats are suggesting do overs.

So no, they aren't talking about Wyoming and Mississippi, because expected Obama wins would be the END of it. They are honking it on into Pennsylvania and 6 more weeks for the slugfest.

[tekisui]

3. I don't see how 6 more weeks of campaigning, without a vote,

is sustainable. The country will get Democrat fatigue. The RNC is raising money while the DNC isn't. All Dem money is going to this $600+ million dollar Primary slugfest.

[Jawja]

12. exactly.

And that's why the GOP Corporate Media is fanning the flames. They are frothing at the mouth for a deeply divided Democratic Party going into the convention without a nominee.

If Democrats don't believe the "mainstream media" isn't working on behalf of the Rethugs, all you have to do is look the coverage for 2000 and 2004.

The Democratic Party needs to step up soon to keep this from happening.

[Alhena]

22. Post of the day. That's exactly why superdelegates will go to Obama this month

a lot of people in the party just want a presumptive nominee- both Hillary and Obama are strong candidates but Obama has the big delegate total at this time.

[Sulawesi]

4. I disagree...the news cycles are slow these days and there will be CNN coverage all night about...

how the delegate math looks bad for HRC

[joshcryer]

6. Yeah, they'll be parroting that like crazy. People here forget Feb., I guess.

[SoCalDem]

5. Those aren't REAL states, you silly goose.. she never even mentioned them

in the confetti hurricane the other day.. and even if they ARE states, unless she wins, they don;t count.. It's the new math :)

:rofl:


BTW, some poor delusional soul in GD-P says HRC is gonna WIN Mississippi :)

[joshcryer]

8. Can you provide a link where Hillary says they don't count?

I'm pretty sure she is just saying a lot of those states are red states, and thus less important to a general election for the President.

Not that they don't count, merely that they're less important.

Huge difference. But hyperbole and exaggerations and bizarre behavior here is quite common, so what can ya do? :shrug:

[SoCalDem]

11. Bizarre behavior? Exaggerations?.. and I thought you supported HRC

:rofl:

I'm so proud to be here...
SHAME ON YOU SHAME ON YOU SHAME ON YOU :rofl:

[tekisui]

7. The momentum is already over. Obama took the TX caucus,

He raised $55 million in Feb. He has picked up 9 SuperD's since Tuesday. He will bring on more this weekend, win WY on Sat. and MS on Tues.

[Jawja]

14. Yes he did and have you

heard this blared over CNN and MSNBC that OBAMA WON TEXAS?? No you haven't.

That would put a wrench in the "Hillary STILL HAS A CHANCE TO WIN" talking point faxed from the RNC.

[Arkansas Granny]

25. It's strange that nobody has told the Associated Press about this win.

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Fewer than half of Texas' voting sites had reported the results by Thursday from Democratic caucuses Tuesday night that were so chaotic and overcrowded by record turnout that police were called to some polling places.

So there's no winner yet for the caucuses, the second stage of the state's Democratic primary, which allocates 67 delegates to the national convention this summer.

As of Thursday afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama was ahead with 56 percent to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's 44 percent based on reports to state party headquarters by 41 percent of the precinct caucuses. Clinton beat Obama in the first step of Texas' contest, a standard state-run primary. Her 51 percent of the vote, compared to his 47 percent, earned her 65 delegates to his 61 delegates.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYJaQiRyrP6rD0dGdWZKNbT3-S5gD8V88KOG0

Do you have a link for your information?

[Jawja]

29. No Arkansas Granny,

I'm just peddling bullshit. :hi:

[Exilednight]

9. It was short lived!

[Yossariant]

10. I'm pretty sure we heard the same doomsday theory in February. How'd that work out for ya?

[tekisui]

15. Unchanged so far.

It's still up to Hillary to chose when she accepts defeat. It can be anytime between now and the first vote at the Convention.

We are now putting the Dems in the House and Senate at a disadvantage. All the Dem money is going to this $600+ million dollar Primary. The RNC has outraised the DNC!!

[Yossariant]

16. The RULE is 2025 delegates, like the RULE is that FL and MI don't count.

If Obama's fans are so concerned that they are putting the downticket at a disadvantage, they should encourage him to drop out.

GO-bama.

[tekisui]

17. Sure the rule is 2025, and the ONLY way Hillary could reach that number

is if the SuperD's overthrow the popular vote and the delegate count.

Why should the leader drop, that makes no sense.

[Yossariant]

18. Obama can't get to 2025. It is you who feigned concern for the downticket.

By your "logic" he should drop out --- for the good of the Party.

GO-bama.

[tekisui]

19. I don't think anyone "should" drop out.

I think the race is hurting the Dem ability to raise money for the downticket seats.

They each can claim the right to run to the bitter end. But, Hillary is going to lose at some point along that costly fight.

[Yossariant]

20. Ah! Now you're talking about your OPINION. Sorry. I don't sniff those.

[tekisui]

21. The RNC is outraising the DNC. Not an opinion.

This is hurting our ability to fight the pukes. Not an opinion.

The Dem donor money is going to the absurdly expensive Primary. Not an opinion.

Hillary is trailing in popular vote, delegate count, money raised and states won. Not an opinion.

She will not close the gap by the Convention. The only way for her to win is if the SuperD's overthrow the popular vote/delegate leader.

[Yossariant]

23. The RULE is that the superdelegates vote as they please.

If the RULE were that the superdelegates had to follow the delegate count, the popular vote, money raised or number of small states won --- there would be no point in having tham at all.

The RULE is that the superdelegates are in place for the very reason of overturning the popular vote, the number of delegates, the small states won or amount of money raised.

DA ROOLZ IS DA ROOLZ.

If we weren't going by the RULES, I'm sure you would have been calling on Obama to drop out after he lost Florida and Michigan.

If you have the concerns you say you have, you'd be calling on him to drop out.

I am calling for him to drop out.

Join me.

GO-bama.

[tekisui]

24. I'm not calling for a drop.

The SuperD's are there to overturn the popular vote if a fringe or weak candidate were chosen. They will have no need to go against the vote of the people this time. Both candidates are strong mainstream Dems.

They risk alienating an energized electorate, which they won't do. Obama has no reason to drop, he is winning.

[Yossariant]

26. MY OPINION is that Obama cannot win a general election.

He has not proven himself effective at winning election contests in big states.

The general election has no caucusues where his supporters can do what they do.

I will leave it to the superdelegates to form their own conclusions.

[workinclasszero]

13. They will totally ignore those states that "don't matter"

And focus on Pennsylvania. The MSM is in the tank for Hillary.

[suston96]

27. Wyoming? Sure it counts. But how much?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/07/us/politics/07wyoming.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1204899055-oK+AJWycjd2VHW0ps7eCLw

CHEYENNE, Wyo. — Being a Democrat in this state means that one’s status in political life is rarely in question and rarely that good. Republicans have a more than two-to-one edge in voter registration — or even 10 to 1 in some counties — and the Democrats, who are gearing up for their presidential caucuses on Saturday, usually get the leftovers.

Kathleen M. Karpan, a Democratic activist, said she was seeing “compressed political intensity” ahead of the party’s caucuses.

Republicans like Leroy Herdt counter that the supposed importance of the nominating contest is hype.

Back in 1921, for example, when there was one lonely Democrat in the Wyoming House of Representatives, he would routinely announce where his caucus — of one — would meet, in case anyone else was interested. First the telephone booth, he would say, then the men’s room, then the bar on the corner.

But hey, every delegate counts - uh, mostly.

[jefferson_dem]

30. They won't shift the narrative. He's supposed to win those.

When it comes to PA, however, he damn well better win. Never mind that she's been the huge favorite there since the first head-to-head poll.