Is it necessary for Obama to tell jokes about Chelsea being ugly in order for Hillary to be civil?

[JVS]

Because she's not being civil toward him and the whole joking thing seems to have worked for McCain. I guess Hillary likes people joking about her daughter's looks.

[Jersey Devil]

1. Let's not go there

Even I, as twisted as I am, wouldn't go there.

[JVS]

11. Too late!

[mmonk]

2. Apparently.

(No, I'm not serious).

[OHdem10]

3. Is this a Democratic Website??????

Children of Candidates are off limits.

[angie_love]

McCain said chelsea was ugly, FYI

[NDambi]

20. "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

He said it...

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

The joke did appear in McCain's hometown paper, the Arizona Republic, and the Associated Press did report the joke in full, so everyone in the press had access to McCain's words. But by censoring themselves, the Post, the Times and others helped McCain deflect flak and preserved his status as a Republican presidential contender.

[JVS]

8. People from other parties who say bad things about Hillary's kids get paid back with big compliments

Why does Hillary praise a man who mocked her child at a very delicate and awkward stage?

[TwilightGardener]

10. The OP didn't say Chelsea was ugly. McCain did, and Hillary loves him anyway.

[olkaz]

27. Promoting Non-Democrats used to be off-limits too

But it seems all sorts of things are being thrown out these days.

[End Of The Road]

4. You wasted one of your three posts on THIS? nt

[NDambi]

5. Well...lmao..I won't go there...I just won't..

[TwilightGardener]

6. Hillary respects McCain. She does not respect Obama. End of story.

[JVS]

16. I'm apalled that Hillary would respect anyone who tells jokes about a child in puberty's cruel grip.

But even more shocking is that she can look the other way when her own child was the butt of his mockery.

[TwilightGardener]

19. McCain sold out his own family when he embraced Bush after those

smears about his daughter. Hillary is not much better, apparently--she respects that sort of "whatever it takes" wild-eyed ambition. They are two peas in a pod.

[golddigger]

7. I think Chelsea has become a very beautiful woman inside and out.

You on the other hand just gave ugly from the inside a whole new meaning.

[angie_love]

9. MCCAIN SAID CHELSEA WAS UGLY NOT OBAMA.

[golddigger]

13. Why are you yelling!

[angie_love]

15. B/C YOU COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT THE OP WAS TRYING TO MAKE

[mrreowwr_kittty]

31. This is typical of the Clinton supporters.

If they can't find a reason to be outraged, they'll invent one.

[marylanddem]

12. so much is loathesome about McCain

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

14. I think the OP's point is

McCain insulted Chelsea, and now Hillary is complementing McCain while insulting Obama.

[Bigleaf]

17. Relax people. JVS is just trying to show you the hypocrisy of Lieberwoman.

She screams bloody murder when Schuster say Chelsea is being pimped out yet McCain can call her daughter ugly and she is now praising him at the expense of Obama. I would have puched McCians lights out personally.

[JVS]

18. The fact that I am casting light on her hypocrisy is precisely why they won't relax.

[golddigger]

25. Compared to the hypocrisy of the Raygunman?

[angie_love]

28. actually lieberwoman is much wittier and funnier. i'll give you a pat for trying.lol

[karynnj]

33. Not only that Chelsea (who I thought cute then and gorgeous now) was ugly,

but it questioned Chelsea's parentage and HRC's sexuality.

But that joke reflects on McCain and only McCain. {/b]

[seabeyond]

21. just took bush dissing mccains daughter for him to get a hug. these people odd

i grant you that.

[northernsoul]

22. Your post title is confusing

From my first read, I inferred that you were asserting that Senator Obama had made such jokes. I'm very relieved to find out that no such thing is even alleged to have occurred.

[JVS]

23. He did not, and I wouldn't expect him to. He has too much class for it. McCain on the other hand..

did, and it saddens me to see Chelsea's own mother heap praise upon that miscreant, John McCain.

[northernsoul]

29. You and I are in total agreement, then.

Top o' the morning to ya, JVS!

:hi:

[Ian David]

24. Why is McCain's wife so ugly? Because Barabara Bush is her father. n/t

[TayTay]

26. That's a sad post and an uncessary thing to write.

It was offensive and showed a lack of sensitivity to both the people running for the Dem nomination and their supporters.

Sen. McCain's comments years ago were pathetic. Chelsea Clinton was still a teenager when he made remarks that were picked up nationally. That was something he should have been ashamed of doing. (He is also a parent and his use of a joke to use a child to get at a parent was reprehensible behavior.)

Don't go there. It is beneath you, it is beneath the candidate you support and it just goes back over territory that should not be rerun. It was wrong of Sen. McCain to say that then and it would be wrong to repeat it and give it more oxygen. Kids are not a means by which you should attack political opponents. Period.

[angie_love]

30. whatever, i find hypocrisy even more appalling. The fact that Hillary embraces

this douche who called her teenaged daugher "ugly" is disgusting even if he did apologize for it. You would never catch Obama saying such trash about anyones daughter. And the fact that she embraces this man now is utterly hypocritical and beyond the pale.

[reality based]

32. A voice of sanity and decency. Thank you.

[TwilightGardener]

37. Not at all. The OP isn't insulting Chelsea--he's just pointing out the Hill-Pocrisy

of loving up on McCain, heaping scorn upon Obama in comparison, and let's not forget how OUTRAGED she was about David Shuster. But McCain? Oh, he's her buddy. They have vodka-drinking contests and take trips together. I'll repeat, Hillary is a despicable piece of shit.

[Dr. Strange]

34. McCain has far more experience at making fun of girls than Obama does.

And isn't that what we want in a president?

[godai]

35. Dude!

You think this would stop Hillary from throwing mud? Yeah...let's start criticizing families. Bad idea...very bad idea.

[TwilightGardener]

36. Dude! OP isn't calling Chelsea ugly. McCain did.

[godai]

38. So, what is Obama supposed to do about that?

Posts such as this, having Obama's senior spokesperson say he's not ready for Day 1, accepting that Obama's followers are a cult, all have a negative impact on his campaign.

If all you have left is to talk about Chelsea, things aren't looking good.

[TwilightGardener]

39. Huh? You're just dredging up Hillary talking points. WTF?

[godai]

40. How about trying to answer my question.

Hillary talking points are working, in case you haven't noticed. The answer is not even close to anything related to Chelsea.

[TwilightGardener]

41. You're not making fucking sense. You're babbling. I'm done with you.

[godai]

42. Dude!

I'm making a lot of sense.

[angie_love]

43. Dude, you're an idiot.

[itcfish]

44. Only if Hillary

calls Michelle an ugly angry person.

[NorthernSpy]

45. maybe this is what Samantha Powers meant about Hillary being a monster...

Pretty tough to imagine a mother actually being chummy with a man who said something like that about her daughter. But Hillary certainly has become friends with McCain.


Interesting point, JVS. It goes to her character, and it warrants explaining. And none of the Hillary supporters here seem up to the task.


Also, this McCain story suggests that all that "outrage" over the "pimped out" comment was just trumped up by Hillary for political advantage.

[JVS]

46. Yes. It is so strange.