Favorite fallacies of the Clinton wins the "important states" argument.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

fallacy 1: Clinton could win OH the same way she won it against Barack: by capturing the rural vote. Sorry, but those will all be McCain's. Which leaves her with the cities, which Barack won. So who votes for Clinton in Ohio?

fallacy 2: Barack didn't beat Hillary in swing states. Wisconsin, Iowa, Missouri, Colorado, etc. prove that wrong.

fallacy 3: some states that were blue last time aren't trending red and are safe if Hillary is the nominee. There's Hawaii: poised to be red in the fall, unless the native son runs.

fallacy 4: Florida is a swing state. No, sorry: Florida is a red state, with the red apparatus in place, red rules, red voter registration, a red governor, and red dirty politics. The single smartest thing democrats can do in the fall is ignore Florida--or make a show effort there that forces MacBombIran to splash out some cash. But Dems will NOT carry it.

fallacy 5: Only Hillary can win the biggest true blue big states in the Fall, because she won them in the primary. Which of these big blues will go to McCain: California, New York? Please.

fallacy 6: Hillary can turnout the vote to unseat a single traditionally red state. Show me where. By contrast, Virginia, marginally red last time, looks like a possible switch to blue with Barack at the top of the ticket. Even North Carolina and Georgia might be doable, but only if Clinton's instant and automated GOP GOTV isn't in play.

fallacy 7: The candidates bring equal turnouts to the table. True--but not necessarily to the benefit of the Democratic Party. One candidate brings new voters and motivated Democrats, the other brings termites out of the woodwork to vote against her. One has crossover appeal without Rush Limbaugh's help, the other doesn't. One can help downticket races, the other drags down the ticket.

[tabatha]

1. Please send that in to Olbermann, Hartmann, etc.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

2. will do--do you know where can I get email addresses in one place...is there one place?

thanks for the suggestion.

[Mooney]

3. THANK YOU.

The contention that Obama won't carry California or New York or any other reliably blue state that Clinton won is sky high, disingenuous bullshit.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

4. welcome to DU, Mooney!

[Me.]

5. #5

Is exactly what I've been saying. We NYers didn't even go red after the 911 attacks and frankly, as we are very vulnerable to whatever attacks might happen in this country, maybe those who are so scared of the terrorists coming to get them should ask why we aren't being scared red.