After reading the afternoon updates in all the major newsoutlets..

[Oleladylib]

I REALLY wish Clinton/Obama would meet, settle this and run together..Make up their own minds..and certainly ignore places like DU..where thought processes are limited to the ridiculous. The economic reality is beyond any moves the feds can make and families are going down the tubes fast...The job of the next president/congress borders on nearly impossible..without TOTAL cooperation.

[Benhurst]

1. Maybe it's time for the super delegates to act in the way they were intended

to do, and rather than take sides at this point, demand Clinton and Obama meet and come to some kind of solution between them. Neither has made the 2025 threshold and neither will. They are both losers under the agreed upon rules for the primary, and it's time for them to stop posturing, curb their gigantic egos, and come to the aid of the country they are supposed to be serving.

If they can't resolve this between themselves, then it's time for the party, through the super delegates, to begin looking for a compromise candidate.

[shraby]

2. The only solution is for Obama to become the

nominee and for Clinton to go back to the Senate because there is no way she can win. Obama can choose his own running mate. That's his perogative as winner.

[Benhurst]

3. Neither of them is going to win (2025) without the support of the

super delegates, and whichever way that goes, super delegates will be overturing the votes of elected delegates. Obama may end up with a plurality, but he is not going to win without resorting to super delegates any more than Clinton will. They both will come to the end of the primary process having had more Democrats vote against them than for them. Both in terms of the agreed upon rules of the primary will be no less losers than those who have already dropped out.

As to which one if them is more likely to win the general election, that is not proven. Both have considerable handicaps to overcome, both have considerable strengths.

But there is no more reason for one to step down than the other. It's time for them both to put their egos aside and find a compromise which will be in the best interests of the party and the nation.

[peace13]

6. One is ahead and the other behind.

If someone is to step down I think the natural order is the guy that's behind resigns. That would be the reason. I'm not asking her to quit but please stop trying to pawn her off on people that want nothing to do with her.

[Benhurst]

7. It hasn't been the tradition in the Democratic party's long tradition

for the candidates who were behind to step down without a fight. Historically, it wasn't over until it was over, and a candidate had secured a majority of the delegates. Candidates coming into the convention with a plurality have gone on to lose the nomination.


When the general election is over, considerable time should be devoted changing the rules for our primary elections.

The caucuses by their very nature are undemocratic. The poor, the disabled, the sick, people with small children, and members of our armed services, to name a few, are discriminated against under them.

The process of allocating delegates is undemocratic, often resulting in the loser getting more than the winner.

Open primaries allow the opposition to participate in and corrupt the process.

There should be runoff elections between the two top candidates if no one is able to secure a majority. That way, no minority candidate would end up with the nomination, having had more Democrats vote against him/her than for him/her.

Super delegates are definitely undemocratic. Their sole function was to put a brake on the democratic process if the party elders felt a mistake was being made. Do we really want them to continue to have such powers?

[peace13]

9. Enough.

We started this selection process with rules that were agreed to by all parties. Stick to the rules for once. Your candidate agreed in the beginning and now is trying to change the rules on all fronts. The rules don't change in the middle of a race or...it's not a race. Give it a rest.

[Benhurst]

11. What about "when the general election is over" don't you understand?

Maybe you should reread the post you just irrationally lashed out against.

As for changing the rules, I agree this primary should played out to the end under the rules agreed upon at its beginning. And under the present rules, having a plurality amounts to squat. 2025 is the only number which matters-- ANYTHING less than that is a loss.

As for "my" candidate, the way things are going, I'm going to have to hold my nose to vote for either of the top two contenders, neither of whom is going to obtain a majority of delegates before the convention. The best candidates have left the field long ago, or, perhaps wisely, didn't enter it in the first place.

[peace13]

4. I am sorry but the two candidates will take this country

in entirely different directions. I know that you are trying to make peace but you have to know that we turned the corner oh....several days ago. I am certain that you are not suggesting that Hillary drop out because she never will. Never, ever, ever, and her philosophy is entirely different that Obama's. We must have a change from the * doctrine and Obama is the only option on the table. I am sorry. Peace, Kim Hussein

[TooBigaTent]

8. How is Obama going to change from the repuke doctrine when he wants to

include them?

As soon as he is the nominee, he will move even further to the right to attract even more republics. He throws liberals a bone every once in a while now to try and fool us into thinking he is progressive. Once he has the official seal of the nomination, just watch him spew even more of that unity crap. He will have to try and convince America that he is not the crazed liberal the GOP is already painting him as.

For disclosure sake - I have as little faith that Clinton would be anything but the DLC-approved corporatist she clearly is.

[peace13]

10. To be honest , my original favorite candidate

was weeded out long before I could vote for him. I had to look at the candidates and decide who would bring me the closest to my ideal. I chose Obama and Hillary has not made me sorry for one minute. She defeats herself. How will Obama do in the big city? He is a well educated man, familiar with the Constitution. I think he will respect Americans and return our rights to us and that my friend is worth everything to me.

[Adelante]

5. They do each other no good as a ticket

Each of them, no matter which one is the nominee, needs national security weight on the ticket.