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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:11 PM
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USA TODAY -TEXAS PRIMARIES NOW TIED -- 92/92 (edit)
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 04:46 PM by TexanDem
http://content.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/results-all.aspx?src=campaign:reprise_google_politics_election+Generic+Politics+Senate+CT

This is not counting the caucus segment of the total. Those totals may not be final till freakin' June. But the breakdown is Obama is ahead 56/44 -- with 41% precincts completed.

Woo-hoo!!! Media, this your chance for some BREAKING NEWS! why don't you give this some air time and educate the public! Better yet, how about a corrected story and an apology for being so excited to make this call for Hillary! And don't forget to change your map colors!



Edited:
Conflict of numbers:
CNN website states 65 Hillary; 61 Obama for primaries and same as USA Today for Caucus. Perhaps USA Today has a typo???

Nevertheless --- though a tie sounds better -- he still won Texas. You have to take it as a whole -- both primary and caucus.

To those diligent Hillary supporters who keep pointing out the popular vote lead, please remember that primaries are not, nor have they ever been determined by popular vote. That's our American system.


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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:12 PM
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1. Obama will win Texas in delegates and popular vote when all is done
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:13 PM
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2. She beat him by 100,000 votes with 100% reporting.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:15 PM
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5. Um, you're ignoring the caucuses.
And apparently doing so deliberately.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:18 PM
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9. The OP was *about* the primaries
I think that rug was ignoring the caucuses because the OP was specifically about the primary. Yes, the caucus counts and Obama will win TX in the final tally, but Clinton did win the primary by a little bit.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:42 PM
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17. And since the primary vote is settled, obviously #1 was referring to the entire Texas election.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:45 PM
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18. Oh yeah, good point.
:hi:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:18 PM
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10. Math is sexist.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:19 PM
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12. You could only caucus if you voted in the primary.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:32 PM
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15. OK. 2,500,000 votes versus 100,000 caususees.
Did I leave anything out?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:55 PM
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23. There were over a Million Caucusees, dumbass.
so yeah, you're leaving about 900,000 people out.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:57 PM
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25. Why, when there's "dumbass" in the title, is there always an Obama logo in the message?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 05:42 PM
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28. why did you make the dumbass mistake of discounting 900,000+ People?
Just couldn't take the time to get your facts straight before typing, could you?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 05:54 PM
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29. Where did you get that information?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:47 PM
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30. here's a good place
"The Texas Democratic Party estimates 1.1 million Texans attended the precinct conventions, doubling the 508,000 who voted in 2006."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/05/texas.caucus.count/index.html
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:13 PM
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4. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride!
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:34 PM
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16. I stand by my statement: primary vote + caucus vote
"A few commenters are trying to make a point that Clinton maintains the popular vote lead in Texas. This is factually incorrect.
According to NPR, more than 1 million voters showed up to caucus.

Let's do a little math (Primary vote totals from ABC News):

TX Primary Result
Clinton 1,459,814
Obama 1,358,785

TX Caucus Result
Not formally tabulated but if we derive from the available totals we have good approximate numbers
Clinton 440,000
Obama 560,000

Grand Popular Vote Totals (Primary + Caucus)
Clinton 1,469,814 + 440,000 = 1,909,814
Obama 1,358,785 + 560,000 = 1,918,785"

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/7/11339/50182/559/471347
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Steeler1623 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:13 PM
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3. No, that's not correct. there were126 total delegates in the primary
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 04:13 PM by Steeler1623
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:55 PM
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24. you are correct -- apparently an error. See "edit" on orig
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:17 PM
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6. There's something wrong with this data
There were only 126 delegates allocated in the TX primary.

This site must have added caucus delegates to the primary tally by accident. :(
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:59 PM
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26. Thnx -yes, apparently error on website -- see "edit" in orig post
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:17 PM
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7. Nothing has changed.She won the popular vote.You are wrong!
Desperate ?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:19 PM
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11. desperate with 100+ lead ????
:shrug:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:25 PM
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13. Hillary has the lead in the popular vote in texas. That is all i am saying. Nothing has changed muc
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 05:01 PM
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27. popular vote is not the way it's done. Never has been.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:17 PM
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8. Excellent catch! But I think it should be 62-62.
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 04:20 PM by anigbrowl
Could be a typo by a USA today employee.

This should be interesting.
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:49 PM
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20. Thanks - evidently you are correct -- an error. orig. edited
CNN does not indicate a change in the calculation of delegates in Primary as USA Today has the last couple of days. Guess we'll have to wait a little longer for official final numbers.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:26 PM
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14. The Daily News, in Longview, WA
I am happy to say that my little hometown paper is the only media outlet I have seen that did NOT report Clinton as the winner in TX, rightly pointing out that that could not be known for some time.
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:53 PM
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22. At least there's one out there trying to be accurate!
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:48 PM
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19. I think you read the link wrong. Clinton leads in the primary 51%/47% and they're tied in delegates
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:51 PM
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21. I was looking at delegates; but USA Today perhaps in error.
see edit in original.
Thanks
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