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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:46 PM
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Is Obama a "Closet Repug?" Are you comfortable if he puts Repug/Reagonites in his Administration?
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 07:02 PM by KoKo01
Is Obama a "Closet Repug?" Are you comfortable if he puts Repug/Reaganites in his Administration?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cass-r-sunstein/the-obama-i-know_b_90034.html


"The OBAMA I KNOW" Cass Sunstein...HuffPost..

The University of Chicago Law School is by far the most conservative of the great American law schools. It helped to provide the academic foundations for many positions of the Reagan administration.

But at the University of Chicago, Obama is liked and admired by Republicans and Democrats alike. Some of the local Reagan enthusiasts are Obama supporters. Why? It doesn't hurt that he's a great guy, with a personal touch and a lot of warmth. It certainly helps that he is exceptionally able.

But niceness and ability are only part of the story. Obama also has a genuinely independent mind, he's a terrific listener and he goes wherever reason takes him.

Those of us who have long known Obama are impressed and not a little amazed by his rhetorical skills. Who could have expected that our colleague, a teacher of law, is also able to inspire large crowds?

The Obama we know is no rhetorician; he shines not because he can move people, but because of his problem-solving abilities, his creativity and his attention to detail.

In recent weeks, his speaking talents, and the cult-like atmosphere that occasionally surrounds him, have led people to wonder whether there is substance behind the plea for "change" - whether the soaring phrases might disguise a kind of emptiness and vagueness. But nothing could be further from the truth. He is most comfortable in the domain of policy and detail.

I do not deny that skeptics are raising legitimate questions. After all, Obama has served in the Senate for a short period (less than four years) and he has little managerial experience. Is he really equipped to lead the most powerful nation in the world?

Obama speaks of "change", but will he be able to produce large-scale changes in a short time? What if he fails? An independent issue is that all the enthusiasm might serve to insulate him from criticisms and challenges on the part of his own advisers -- and, in view of his relative youth, criticisms and challenges are exactly what he requires.

Fortunately, the candidate's campaign proposals offer strong and encouraging clues about how he would govern; what makes them distinctive is that they borrow sensible ideas from all sides.

He is strongly committed to helping the disadvantaged, but his University of Chicago background shows; he appreciates the virtues and power of free markets. In this sense, he is not only focused on details but is also a uniter, both by inclination and on principle.

Transparency and accountability matter greatly to him; they are a defining feature of his proposals. With respect to the mortgage crisis, credit cards and the broader debate over credit markets, Obama rejects heavy-handed regulation and insists above all on disclosure, so that consumers will know exactly what they are getting.

Expect transparency to be a central theme in any Obama administration, as a check on government and the private sector alike. It is highly revealing that Obama worked with Republican (and arch-conservative) Tom Coburn to produce legislation creating a publicly searchable database of all federal spending.

Obama's healthcare plan places a premium on cutting costs and on making care affordable, without requiring adults to purchase health insurance. (He would require mandatory coverage only for children.) Republican legislators are unlikely to support a mandatory approach, and his plan can be understood, in part, as a recognition of political realities.

But it is also a reflection of his keen interest in freedom of choice. He seeks universal coverage not through unenforceable mandates but through giving people good options.

It should not be surprising that in terms of helping low-income workers, Obama has long been enthusiastic about the Earned Income Tax Credit -- an approach, pioneered by Republicans, that supplements wages but does not threaten to throw people out of work.

But Obama is no a compromiser; he does not try to steer between the poles (or the polls). "Triangulation" has no appeal for him. Both internationally and domestically, he is willing to think big and to be bold. He publicly opposed the war in Iraq at a time when opposition was unpopular.

more of a great read for even Clintonites ..............at

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cass-r-sunstein/the-obama-i-know_b_90034.html
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:48 PM
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1. As opposed to an Out in the open repug, like Clinton? nt
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:52 PM
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6. Thank you for the first comic relief.....
I"ve had all day. LMAO
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:49 PM
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2. You mean like Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice?
:rofl:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:50 PM
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3. WOW...you can just feel the air coming out of the Clinton campaign
and pretty soon threads like these will be a thing of the ugly DU past and we can all unite as democrats once again behind a true democrat who doesn't PLAY republican games
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:04 PM
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12. Neither of them is my Candidate....just so you know...I'm
just looking at both and watching "the spin." I wish it wasn't so... I'm Gore..and Kucinich..

I don't have a Candidate in this one...:-( BUT...I'm fighting for TRUTH... yeah...like Mighty Mouse...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:50 PM
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4. Open Government is the ONLY ISSUE that will protect our positions on every other issue.
That Obama supports open government is what matters the most to me, and why I believe other lawmakers KNOWN for the advocacy of open government are siding with him, as well.
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carlotta Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:57 PM
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11. You expect open government from someone who....
hasn't been willing to answer questions from Chicago newspaper reporters re: Rezko, for two years?

Good luck with that.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:13 PM
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15. Yes. Do you expect open government from those groomed by Jackson Stephens
to continue the protection of BushInc and his powerful cronies involved with BCCI dealings?


Not that BCCI was important, its matters only led directly to 9-11 and this Iraq war, and future war with Iran...... that's all.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:07 PM
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18. When Hillary denounces NAFTA/Media Dergulation and the Trashing of Glass-Steagall...
then I will know she's REALLY FIGHTING FOR DEMS! (and there's a few other Clinton stuff...but I'll figure the RW Witch Hunt by STARR sort of "trashed reforms."

I've YET TO HEAR OBAMA come OUT against...Dissolution of Glass-Steagall Banking Reforms instituted after the '29 Market Crash that kept our Banks separate from Wall St. Brokerage Firms...or "Media Deregulation Act of '96" that gave us Ruppert Murdoch's "FOX (FAUX) NEWS" and gave the Networks and Cables FREE LICENSE to put BUSH PROPAGANDA over our Airwaves 24/7...and Trash and Filth the other times? Plus the dismantling of EVERY AGENCY who was PROTECTING AMERICANS FROM CORPORATIONS!

When will OBAMA go AFTER what the dismantling of FDA, DOE, SEC, EPA, HUD and other agencies have done to cause Health and Economic Problems for Most Americans? :shrug:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:15 PM
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19. Do you understand how much EASIER it will be to get real answers when ALL agencies
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 08:16 PM by blm
have to open up to the public via cameras and open hearings?

Anyone working on the legislation and carrying water for a company will have to do it ON CAMERA.
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bleowheels Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:51 PM
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5. Nice try. You will have to wake up pretty early to fool us Obama supporters.
The emperor (Hillary) has no clothes. I may need to gouge out my eyes!
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:52 PM
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7. They're onto us. ABORT...ABORT! Operation "Install Reagan 2.0" is compromised. n/t
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carlotta Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:52 PM
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8. He wants Chuck Hagel on his team, as well
Chuckie voted with Bush 95% of the time, and got a 100% approval rating from the Christian Coalition.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:54 PM
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9. I'm comfortable with it
A bipartisan effort got us into Iraq and it's gonna take a bipartisan effort to get us out.

I don't want to hear any more of the kind of snivelling like we had for the last 2 years that we can't get anything done because we don't have the numbers. Brother Obama's gonna give you the numbers and strip away the masks.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:56 PM
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10. That is a stellar endorsement for Obama; how you get closet
rethug out of it I will never understand.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:21 PM
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20. Did you read that Cass says that Obama will put Republicans in his Admistration?
Obama is RUNNING on "reaching out across all barriers.."

Cass Sunstein is a fellow Chicago Law Professor with Obama... If he is saying Obama is going to REACH OUT...then those who support him feel we need to reach out to Lieberman, Coburn and all the Repugs we can find that we can get to go with our Democratic Programs.

I haven't found that the New Dem Congress has been able to "reach out" and get Repugs on Board for their programs. As hard as Nancy and Harry have tried...it seems that Repugs shoot down the Dem Bills, or Revise them and when they go to Bush (even in the watered down version) that Bush VETO's the COMPROMISE!

It seems all Dems do is COMPROMISE to the REPUGS...and EVEN THEN...BUSH VETO'S....:shrug:

Obama wants MORE OF THIS? :shrug:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:30 PM
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21. So me a favor and read this about Obama as a junior senator, from
2006. It IS doable, we just need the right person to do it!

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/10/barack_obama.html
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:51 AM
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22. Why does everything have to be black&white?
You mention Coburn (a nut, and not very smart, but in his own nutty ways a principled man, I think). They worked on a transparency bill, to create a database that will list and make easy to search for info on all government spending (that's off the top of my head, I may be wrong on the details, but that's the basic idea). Assume for a moment that democrat X was the co-author, would you have anything against the bill? Would you? My guess is that you would not, sounds like a good idea. Does it become a worse idea because Coburn is the co-author. That's the WHOLE POINT. WOrking across the isle does not automatically imply compromising as long as you can find issues that you both agree on.

Solving major issues like health care on the other hand, WILL require compromising, no doubt. But here again, the approach can make a difference. Rather than the "I have all the good answers, my way or the highway" approach that Hillary seems to have adopted in her failed attempt, trying to bring as many people together to discuss and to try to find common points and start from there, is an approach that has a much better chance of success. For instance, I know that in the Senate Wyden (IMHO one of the best dem senators) is working on a health care related bill with one of the republicans, I forgot who, but definitely not one of the "nicer" ones. They probably disagree on at least 90% of the issues that come before the Senate, but they are trying to do something useful and positive with part of the remaining 10%. That's a good thing.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:07 PM
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13. Bill Clinton did it l'est you forget. nt
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:10 PM
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14. He does smoke that Reagan baloney an awful lot.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:14 PM
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16. "The era of big government is over' was Bill Clinton giving Ronnie the biggest hardon he ever had.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:53 PM
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17. I hope both Obama AND...Clinton supporters will read this article...
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 07:54 PM by KoKo01
It's a very good "middle of road" think piece.

Check out Cass Sunstein on Wiki..too. It's a good read as to where he's coming from. What he's written and who he is and why his post on HuffPo..is important.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein
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