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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:07 PM
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Pshhhhhhhhh..what is that sound?
PSsssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh....whats that? It is the sound of air leaving the Obama campaign. The balloon now is going downward and Hillary will end up with this nomination. You watch.

You cannot fake experience...nor speech it into existence.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:08 PM
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1. PSssssssssssssssshhhhhhh
...hhhiiit, that's funny.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:33 PM
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54. That is the sound of all the
delegates Obama gained (12+) this week with Hillary winning Ohio, RI and they split Tx but Obama won the most delegates. That is the sound from Hillary as she felt hit in the stomach.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:08 PM
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2. I'm sure that Paul Wellstone would be so proud of Hillary
right now. You are on crack if you think the O is tanking.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:09 PM
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5. Don't say the word "crack." It will work against you in the long run.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:10 PM
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6. huh?
NT
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:15 PM
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no- secrets work against you- honesty is
a rare commodity among politicians.
Hillary is one who works and relies on darkness and secrecy.

peace~
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:15 PM
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19. Are you channeling?
how the hell would know what or who Paul would like?
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:18 PM
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25. I don't think he would be happy with her tactics
He was a gentleman and a liberal giant. He probably would not have appreciated her defending Mcsame at Obamas expense. It's simply a guess on my part. I could be wrong.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:21 PM
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32. I disagree.
Politics are dirty by nature and only tough skins make it through. Paul was fighter his whole life..which means he fought alot, it is a dirty world, politico.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:24 PM
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40. Crack - hee-hee. Good one from YOU.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:09 PM
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3. Another Fact-Free Post
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 08:09 PM by MannyGoldstein
How helpful.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:13 PM
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15. soliloquy
did'nt think it would affect you Obama children. Sorry. How's that monster thing coming along? Nothing yet? Go ahead..shoot another fiery dart at her...I dare Obama's kids to do it again.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:15 PM
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20. You are the one acting defensive
By even posting this ridiculous thread that for some reason I am jumping in the middle of.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:27 PM
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43. You're too sensitive
You don't sound like your candidate has "won" the nomination, like we have been told repeatedly the last few weeks.

Hell, this should be funny to anyone but those worried. <you>
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:09 PM
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4. and you cant pull enough delegates out of your ass to cut into Obama's lead
maybe you should deflate your candidates ego a bit, but stand back Contents Under Pressure
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:18 PM
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28. And your candidte isn't likely to win unless my candidate drops
out of the race.

And Hillary's not dropping out. Deal with it!
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:22 PM
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no not really, he will have more delegates and the supers will fall in line behind him
you Deal with it
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:10 PM
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7. Don't Be Silly, Everyone Knows That Sound Is A Monster Fart. nt
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:11 PM
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9. BWAHAHAH!!
That is a funny post.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:14 PM
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18. That was funny.
Tension breaker had to be done!! Monster farts for everyone!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:18 PM
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26. You mean that noise could be coming from Hillary, strike up
the band Mark Penn has a lot of hot air.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:10 PM
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8. That would be great and the sooner the better.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:11 PM
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10. It's the sound of Hillary's support whooshing out the door to Obama in light of her lies over Nafta
and her "kitchen sink"attacks combined with her shameless promotion of the Republican nominee over her Democratic opponent....
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:22 PM
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37. ah but they weren't lies!
Poor Obamafan...

Must... confront... truth...
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:29 PM
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47. must put up with Clintonistas, "truth" has little to do with Hillary and her camp.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:37 PM
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57. must... read...
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:11 PM
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11. Good luck with the 70% wins from here on out. Your monster..
.. lost. Deal with it.
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:12 PM
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12. I never saw this coming.
I would have never guessed the Hillary supporters would take this path, but here we are.

Who would have guessed that a pretty sizable portion of the DU was this ignorant ? This primary has exposed some damn fools.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:16 PM
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23. I'm a fool now?
Nice to hear..you Obamanites have an affinity for calling names, huh?
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:18 PM
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29. Putting it mildly.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:22 PM
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36. Thanks!
See you in Nove....errrr...maybe not.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:12 PM
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13. I agree. Everything they've said and done since tuesday has been a disaster.
They are clearly in a tailspin.

You can tell by the vicious posts here, his supporters all know it too.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:19 PM
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30. Yep.
When you are a leader...you do not melt under pressure, you shine. They clearly are not shining right now.

Just post these 3 words..Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan..they got ape shit. Go ahead..post them.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:23 PM
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38. Me? Let Mikey do it.
:scared:

I saw the polls too.
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Slagathor Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:13 PM
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14. Nor can you speech grammar into existence...
Hillary's experiences are irrelevant... unless you think it's important that a future commander in chief should have extensive experience in voting illegal wars into existence...
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:32 PM
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53. Evidently it is relevant
or the 3 a.m. commercial would have been a bust. Obama needs to just come out and say..I don't have a fucking clue on foreign policy or how the miliary works..but I am here to change. I would have more respect for that than "I have as much experience as Hillary" Really? I guess she was sleeping through her husband's tenure? Right.
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Slagathor Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:13 AM
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65. Reality Check... Clinton's foreign policy... not exactly successful
he sort of screwed the pooch over and over again. Learning from Bill means learning a lot about mistakes and omissions.
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kevin881 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:13 PM
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16. Its the sound that comes out of hillary's ass... same as her mouth... stinky hot gas.
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:13 PM
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17. Not even.
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:16 PM
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21. How will Hillary Clinton win the nomination?
?

As it stands (notwithstanding superdelegates) Hillary Clinton needs to beat Barak Obama by an average of 24% in the remaining elections to surpass Obama's 141 pledged delegate lead (AP) and win the nomination.

http://www.slate.com/features/delegatecounter /

If she keeps her 32 superdelegate lead, she needs only an 18% average lead over Barak Obama to beat his 109 total delegate lead.

If Florida and Michigan hold new elections and allow Obama to campaign, Rasmussen projects that Hillary Clinton
would win. In Florida she would gain about 55% of the vote, giving her roughly 108 delegates, and Obama would
lose with only 39% of the vote, gaining 77 delegates. However, they are statistically tied in Michigan, meaning
that Obama would likely split the vote there with Clinton. Therefore, Clinton should gain 31 delegates in this
scenario, which we'll call scenario A.

In scenario A, after the FL and MI re-vote, Clinton will only need a 12% average lead over Obama to secure the democratic nomination.

Florida's election put Hillary Clinton at 49% (105 delegates), Barak Obama at 33% (67 delegates),
with Edwards at 14% (13 delegates). So if Florida is seated as is, Clinton stands to gain a net
of 38 pledged delegates. Michigan's election gave Hillary Clinton 55% of the vote (73 delegates),
and "undeclared" might go for Obama in a settlement, leaving him 40% of the vote and 55 delegates.

So if these delegates are seated as is, Clinton will gain a net of 56 delegates in this scenario,
which we'll call scenario B.

In scenario B, Hillary keeps her superdelegate lead, convinces Howard Dean to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates
as is, and then she wins the remaining races by an average of 8% in each of the remaining elections.

Will "scenario B" occur? If it could occur, would it be advisable? The answer to that is no, and again no.
Democrats agree on fair rules where everybody gets to vote and all the votes get counted:
if you can't agree to that, then you're simply not one of us--no matter who you vote for.

So that leaves the 12% hope of Hillary Clinton in scenario A, which is an almost impossible scenario.

Why hasn't the media divulged this mathematical reality to Hillary Clinton and her supporters? Well... it is complicated math, I'll grant you that. But why isn't the media breaking it down and reporting it as a simple fact?

I suspect that they want us to slug it out in the streets. Should we let them divide our party that way?

No.

Best of luck as you find your way back home to the Democratic Party.


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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:17 PM
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24. It can be done.
and even Oompa knows it can be done...why all the stress and name-calling if you are in the lead? Because they are have not won the nomination.
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:41 PM
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58. How exactly can it be done?
I'm looking at hard numbers, and I think it cannot.

Well... I suppose that with this 12% lead in each of the remaining contests, or with an average of all
of those leads... it's possible. It won't happen, but it's possible.

Are you just clinging to hope? Fine... I'm just advocating realism.

I'm not name calling, but I think a few people are pretty pissed off that Hillary is acting like a spoiler.
The latest NAFTA lies, the strong associations she's making between herself and McCain, and the other campaign
lies that Hillary spread have taken their toll on the Obama party.

So I guess the answer to that question goes like this: the name calling is a response to being abused by
a spoiler and a sore loser.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:48 PM
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62. I have hope and change
to live by..he has not been declared the winner of the primary...so I guess people still get to vote? That is the AMerican way?
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:18 PM
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27. coincidence?
That Obama is purple and Clinton is green?
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:42 PM
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59. No coincidence... that's just pure Satan. n/t
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:16 PM
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22. I'm going to be glad when we have a nominee
and the 12 to 16 year old age group putting up hit and run idiocy like this has moved back to video gaming.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:21 PM
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31. You can't claim Bushes are evil and then support Clintons when Clintons protect the Bushes
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 08:21 PM by blm
and always have and always will.

Clintons' EXPERIENCE is in playing clean up for BushInc. And not with a broom.

Clintons tens of millions lining his bank account now was earned in the 90s when he deep-sixed all the BCCI matters that should have put GHWBush, Jackson Stephens, Marc Rich in jail. And Dubai and Saudi royals and Bin Ladens and AQ Khan should have been exposed for their roles in the funding of global terror networks.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:21 PM
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33. Hillary proves you can fake experience. Especially when the media gives you a free pass on it.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:21 PM
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34. Sounds like another gas leak at the Clinton station
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 08:21 PM by C_U_L8R
yuck, smells like sulfer
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:21 PM
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35. You cannot fake experience...nor speech it into existence.
That's great!
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:23 PM
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39. Sure you can--you just refer to your 35 years of
"experience" even if it's largely as a first lady, a corporate lawyer and boards you were appointed to by your hubby.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:29 PM
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46. TY
n/t
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:25 PM
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41. HAHAHAHA
what experience does HRC have besides covering for Bills infidelities?



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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:26 PM
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42. This is one to bookmark. LMAO!
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:27 PM
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44. Right now she can damage Obama because she can't win
and she can't be damaged because she already loss. This is why the superdelegates need to break this up.

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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:28 PM
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45. It's this
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:29 PM
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48. RemeberWellstone's verbiage is eerily like someone that has long been on my ignore list...
:yoiks:
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:30 PM
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49. "You cannot fake experience..."
True. Somebody better tell her. It's not working.

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:31 PM
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50. "Pshhhhhhhhh..what is that sound?"
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:34 PM
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55. ROTFLMAO!
that was too damn easy!
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:31 PM
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51. I think it was the sound of the toilet finally flushing...

that Clinton overflow was getting to be a bit much.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:32 PM
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52. You can brag about it and then not have anything to show like Hillary has
When asked to give a specific example during a recent phone interview with her campaign it was crickets. She's full of shit and nothing but a negative influence on this election.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:35 PM
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56. Put the crack pipe down, you're hearing things.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:43 PM
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60. psssssssssss.....That's the sound of Hillary pissing on the Democratic Party and all it stands for
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:47 PM
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61. Tweety says HA!
Your attmept is full of fail!! Humor is'nt for you, go back to the lemming run off the Obama cliff.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:52 PM
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63. grammar isn't for you, apparently
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:53 PM
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64. Oh my God can you Clinton loyalists please stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking? (nm)
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