Obama to Clinton: "You Do Not Have Standing to Question My Position on This Issue." Video/Text

[K Gardner]

Barack in Casper


Entire Speech: Video - http://www.kutv.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=[e-mail]

Barack spoke today about Iraq and the loss of life and the drain on our country in terms I'd never heard before.(starts around minute 18 to 19) Very moving. And before he left the topic, he spoke about the attacks. I transcribed it from the video because I couldn't find it quoted anywhere. The only way I knew these remarks existed were because Keith played a snippet of them on his show, so I went looking. To have watched the media today, one would have thought Barack had gone underground and that he did not respond in any way to Clinton's repeated attacks and smears. He did respond, STRONGLY but the media, in all its machinations and manipulations..is not covering it. Had Clinton said this, it would have been broadcast from the rooftops in endless stream.

Barack Obama, Casper, WY:"One note I want to make on this. I haven't spent too much time talking about my opponent, but I do have to say, she was quoted this morning in Mississippi. Because one of my advisors said, in an interview overseas, "Senator Obama gave a timeframe for withdrawal but it would be subject to decisions and the situation at the time. So Senator Clinton used this to imply I wasn't serious about bringing this war to an end. I just have to mention this, because I don't want anybody here to be confused. I was opposed to this war in 2002. If it had been up to me, we would never have been in this war. It was because of George Bush with an assist from Hillary Clinton and John McCain that we entered into this war. A war that never should have been authorized, never should have been waged. I've been against it in 2002, 2003, 2004, 5/6/7/8 and I will bring this war to an end in 2009. So don't be confused. (standing ovation &applause) So - Don't be confused when Sen. Clinton is not even willing to acknowledge that she voted for war. She says she voted for Diplomacy despite the title that said Authorization to Use US Armed Forces in Iraq. I don't want to play politics on this issue.. because she DOESNT HAVE STANDING to question my position on this issue."

Hillary in Wyoming - Stress of Constant Negativity Getting you Down?

[LadyVT]

1. That is completely illogical. Of course she has "standing"--she's a rival candidate!!

[K Gardner]

4. Example of Hillary demographics.

[Stephanie]

7. No. Moral. Standing.

She's complicit.

[K Gardner]

11. LOL.. thanks Stephanie. I started to explain the obvious but couldn't bring myself to !

[LibertyorDeath]

12. I know sometimes you have to put it in big block letters

that blink real slow.

[shraby]

30. She doesn't have standing. She is not a viable

candidate anymore. The only way she could possible get the nomination is by stealing it. She has fewer delegates, fewer popular vote, and before long will have fewer super delegates. Do the math.

[papau]

2. So he doesn't deny that he is a liar about war, social programs, and NAFTA - interesting

I will bring this war to an end in 2009" - again repeated - but now we know that statement is just a "best case" - which never occurs - comment

[K Gardner]

5. Another example. Sheesh.

[peacebird]

15. and your candidate is NOT a liar about war? "If I knew then...." Puhlease... and SHE claims that SHE

will bring them home "starting" in 2009 :eyes:

Yeah - SUUUUUUURE she will.
:sarcasm:

Not as long as Halliburton/KBR/CarlyleGroup are making killer Profits she won't

No Way - the DLC/Goldwater Gal is a HUGE friend to Corporate America

Nothing comes before profits - so why, again, won't she release her 2006 and 2007 tax returns NOW?

hmmmm?

[Skip Intro]

36. Why does every defense of Obama end in misdirection? Throwing darts at Hillary

doesn't answer questions about Obama.

[babylonsister]

3. Right on, Obama! She does NOT have standing, nor the courage

to admit a ghastly mistake that has cost so many lives.

[Yossariant]

6. LOL! No "standing" to question a fairy tale?! He's delusional.

:rofl:

[K Gardner]

9. Demographics, example #3.

[awaysidetraveler]

17. Yes... she lacks the credibility, as in she's lied too many times.

Speaking of fairy tales....

?

As it stands (notwithstanding superdelegates) Hillary Clinton needs to beat Barak Obama by an average of 24% in the remaining elections to surpass Obama's 141 pledged delegate lead (AP) and win the nomination.

http://www.slate.com/features/delegatecounter /

If she keeps her 32 superdelegate lead, she needs only an 18% average lead over Barak Obama to beat his 109 total delegate lead.

If Florida and Michigan hold new elections and allow Obama to campaign, Rasmussen projects that Hillary Clinton
would win. In Florida she would gain about 55% of the vote, giving her roughly 108 delegates, and Obama would
lose with only 39% of the vote, gaining 77 delegates. However, they are statistically tied in Michigan, meaning
that Obama would likely split the vote there with Clinton. Therefore, Clinton should gain 31 delegates in this
scenario, which we'll call scenario A.

In scenario A, after the FL and MI re-vote, Clinton will only need a 12% average lead over Obama to secure the democratic nomination.

Florida's election put Hillary Clinton at 49% (105 delegates), Barak Obama at 33% (67 delegates),
with Edwards at 14% (13 delegates). So if Florida is seated as is, Clinton stands to gain a net
of 38 pledged delegates. Michigan's election gave Hillary Clinton 55% of the vote (73 delegates),
and "undeclared" might go for Obama in a settlement, leaving him 40% of the vote and 55 delegates.

So if these delegates are seated as is, Clinton will gain a net of 56 delegates in this scenario,
which we'll call scenario B.

In scenario B, Hillary keeps her superdelegate lead, convinces Howard Dean to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates
as is, and then she wins the remaining races by an average of 8% in each of the remaining elections.

Will "scenario B" occur? If it could occur, would it be advisable? The answer to that is no, and again no.
Democrats agree on fair rules where everybody gets to vote and all the votes get counted:
if you can't agree to that, then you're simply not one of us--no matter who you vote for.

So that leaves the 12% hope of Hillary Clinton in scenario A, which is an almost impossible scenario.

Why hasn't the media divulged this mathematical reality to Hillary Clinton and her supporters? Well... it is complicated math, I'll grant you that. But why isn't the media breaking it down and reporting it as a simple fact?

I suspect that they want us to slug it out in the streets. Should we let them divide our party that way?

No.

Best of luck as you find your way back home to the Democratic Party.

[speedoo]

8. IMO, Hillary does not even have standing for Senator in NY anymore.

Months ago, I decided I would never vote for her again.

Her conduct in recent weeks has shown me that she does even deserve to represent me anymore.

Anyone from another state want her? I don't.

[Stephanie]

14. I'm already searching for another candidate - any ideas?

Someone mentioned RFK Jr. the other day - I could go for that.

[speedoo]

27. If RFK Jr. drops his endorsement of Hillary, sure.

And there are plenty of other good NYers who would represent us better. Nadler, Nita Lowey... many others.

[jackson_dem]

10. More condescension toward Hill from Obama

Keep it up, Barack. It ("you're likable enough") worked so well for you in New Hampshire with the female vote! :rofl:

[K Gardner]

13. Wow, Hillary's core support group is out in droves tonight ! I wish I could tell you how I feel

about your bullshit ignorant tripe without getting TSd.

[boston bean]

16. My goodness he certainly is taking Hillary to task. ha ha hah

[ExtraGriz]

18. more words? nt/t

[Cronus Protagonist]

19. That's a fair criticism from Obama

One can agree or disagree, but he has a point.

[rug]

20. He said he'll end the war in 2009. Uh-huh.

[Zachstar]

34. As opposed to Clinton who seems to get away with flip flopping all over the place?

Clinton winning will give the republicans a target even bigger than Kerry.

Therefore McCain will almost certainly win.

[Cha]

21. Perfect words to get to the heart

of the matter. hilary is the poster girl for chutzpah and it ain't pretty.

[gulliver]

22. That's actually a pretty wussy, lawyerly way to say it.

Leave aside that he is playing politics (as everyone who says "I don't want to play politics" surely always is). Obama often says things in a wussy, retiring, stilted way. In debates, or given half a chance on the stump, he slips and channels his inner "Barry." His backers can say it's because he is civilized or positive or whatever. But the acidity of the rhetoric belies that.

[blogslut]

23. nice

Saw it on the video. She's got no standing.

[K Gardner]

24. The text is flat.. he is so powerful in the video, the transcript doesn't do it justice :-)

[blogslut]

28. You can't really call it trash talk

But he is kinda trash-talking. He's reading her, that's for sure.

[polichick]

25. Amen, President Obama!

[Zachstar]

37. Amen!!

I can't wait for day 1!

[TwilightGardener]

26. Damn skippy--the Monster blew it when she had her big chance.

[Zachstar]

29. I cant wait for him to be the leader of my nation!

The United States needs him NEEDS him as our leader and to end this horrid war. It is TIME for Obama! It is TIME for hope! It is TIME for CHANGE!!!

[K Gardner]

31. I think all of our collective hearts are breaking right now, but I have to believe that he

knows what he is doing. He had a dream, he had hope.. so he must have known it was not going to be easy.

I can't wait either, Zach.. it will be a new beginning for us and for the world. :hi:

[Zachstar]

32. It will be a great first step.

It will not be easy at ALL. The climate is collapsing and oil is skyrocketing. People are losing their jobs and the country has little respect around the world.

Every day from day one of his Administration needs to be a small gain. If we have many small gains we can claim a victory. The small gains will come from US tho! WE must do the work that makes a difference!

For me.. It is my continued support of fusion research. I think fusion will change the world and lead up into an era of space travel and hope. This is why I wish Edwards will support Obama and become his VP... In 2016 after those small gains add up I want us to be talking about achieving DREAMS. And I think Edwards will be in a prime spot to be nominated and elected to lead us into 2020 with HUGE gains for humanity.

It is about HOPE right now and DREAMS coming true in our future. It is the FUTURE! OUR FUTURE!

[Zachstar]

44. Just wanted to say this again.

I am lightly starting my call for Obama to call for Edwards to join him as VP. I think Edwards will be an amazing VP for the country!

[Jim Sagle]

33. He's an arrogant fuckhead. But hey, we knew that.

:boring:

[Skip Intro]

35. What a complete fraud and utter hypocrite Barack Obama is.

"I don't want to play politics on this issue.. because she DOESNT HAVE STANDING to question my position on this issue."

First, we ALL have standing to question his postition on this or any other issue. Who the hell does he think he is, the Dems "W" - above questioning? What an arrogant fuckwad.

But to say he doesn't want to play politics with this issue when he is quoted on an MTP show from last November excusing his prior statements in 2004 that he didn't know how he would have voted on the IWR or that there was room for disagreement on the issue or that there wasn't much of a difference between he and bush on Iraq at that point, by saying that we had candidates who had voted for the IWR, and therefore 2004 wasn't the best time to be questioning the war. In other words, he bowed to political calculation and let politics determine his position on this issue. Yeah, he played politics with the issue.


What a flaming hypocrite.

[BzaDem]

38. You know what Obama? You were not in the Senate. YOU do not have standing.

[mculator]

39. K Gardner = Hillarey Hater.

All posts should be filed in the trash can.

[OzarkDem]

40. Obama has voted time and again to support the Iraq War

Sorry, Obama folks, I will never support a candidate who lies so blatantly and so frequently.

[JimGinPA]

42. Against Going To War - For Supporting The Troops (Are You Just Pretending To Be Thick)

:shrug:

[Frank Booth]

43. So, Obama shouldn't have authorized funding for American soldiers?

That's a real good plan. Send the troops over to Iraq and then cut off their funding. That'll show the damn troops!

It wasn't Obama who drove the bus into the ditch. It was W, John McCain, and Hillary Clinton.

[annie1]

41. that cracked me up. did she answer to that? he wasn't in the U.S. senate...

he can't even say for sure how he would have voted. he can say how he "believes" he would have voted, but nothing else. so..eh.

[rinsd]

45. Yes I remember the many withdraw bills submitted by Obama during the last Congressional session.

Oh wait...he never submitted one.

In fact the funding bills he & Clinton voted against only came about with pressure from John Edwards.

He may be right that Hillary does not have the standing to question his decision.

But we the voters certainly do.