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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:09 PM
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Wyoming- lets talk some about it.
seems NOBODY cares about the Wyoming Caucus tomorrow lol.

I know its extremely anticlimactic after Tuesday, but a state is a state and delegates are delegates.

Anyone know what time polls close tomorrow? How much the candidates are spending and how many volunteers they have?

Obama had a rally at the University of Wyoming today I have heard.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:11 PM
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1. I expect Hillary to do well in Wyoming. I dont see why she shouldnt
An all white population. Even though its a caucus, I think Hillary does poorly in Caucuses cuz she just didnt bother campaigning there. Well, Her and Bill have campaigned there now so I expect her to do very well and maybe even win.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:12 PM
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3. but the question is how much have each campaign invested?
its all about getting voters to the polls, so it really depends on how much they each invest.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:13 PM
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5. oh and I don't think an all white population
would affect it at all. people in places like Wyoming just aren't nearly as racist as they are in states with high black populations.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:13 PM
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4. She is the clear front-runner, per usual, and should dominate.
I just hope Obama can keep it close. :hi:
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:15 PM
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7. was that sarcasm?
lol, I couldn't tell.

are some of you really expecting Obama to lose?

it really all depends on how much money they each put into it.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:30 PM
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19. It's called lowering expectations
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:44 AM
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38. ah ok, well that sounds like a good idea
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:24 PM
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15. What do you mean she's the "clear frontrunner"?? Obama is
ahead in delegates and has won more states and has raised more money.
Yes, she gets some bounce from Tuesday, but Obama's team has been there longer and is better organized. From everything I've heard, Obama should have a good day.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:32 PM
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22. I dunno...we're talking about the much-heralded ClintonInc Machine.
It's all oiled up and ready to go. Remember...it's her turn. Everybody knows that.



...


Wonder why Intrade has him way the hell up in both WY and MS. Hmmm... <scratches chin>


... :sarcasm:

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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:30 PM
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35. So, did the "well-oiled" machine take a break for 11 states???
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Lefty-Taylor Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:10 PM
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28. Am I wrong or were you a HRC supporter just very recently when you and I sparred? At any rate,
if you are for Clinton, it must be tough to think that she has a chance even though she has now run out of credible mathematical possibilities.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:25 PM
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31. I have been an admirer of Obama since 2004 and have proudly supported him for POTUS since Nov. 2006.
Before the campaign I had huge respect for Hillary and she was my "#2". Now, she'll be lucky to get any form of support from me...ever.

Not to say you and I have never sparred. :toast:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:28 PM
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32. you're thinking of jackson_dem. I had the same problem for a while.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:30 PM
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33. LOL! I have the same problem. Sometimes I glance at a post and wonder if it's mine...
With respect to Jackson, I was here long before him...at least in his latest incarnation.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:15 PM
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8. You seem to have missed the fact that Obama's biggest victory
was in Idaho.

80 to 17 percent.

That's not even a blowout victory, that's putting Hillary down in Ron Paul territory.

I'm hoping for a repeat tomorrow. :)
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:16 PM
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10. But she also didnt campaign in Idaho. Obama bothered to campaign there.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:28 PM
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18. Obama had a rally with 15,000 people in Boise
:woohoo:
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:31 PM
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36. There were also 5 Obama headquarters across Idaho, and no Hillary HQ's
Proud 80 Percenter here! :hi:
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:27 PM
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16. Heard Bush Vp at home helping his friend
Dick might tilt it for his friend Hillary.

Have you seen the video on here of Dick saying something and then right after Hillary comes on and states the same thing. It is a riot.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:28 PM
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17. Maine and VT are "all white" and he blew her away.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:33 PM
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23. VT is the most liberal state in the country
Maine was all wrapped up in Obamentum, and you've got some libs up there as well.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:36 PM
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25. Race was the thrust of the point. Obama transcends race in many
areas.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:49 PM
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27. I agree he transcends race, but I think there were different factors in play there
I think Wyoming is much more of a conservative area then VT and Maine. And conservative dems would side with Hillary first.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:11 PM
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2. I care. :)
Democratic caucusing takes place throughout the state starting at 11 am with last caucus getting underway at 6 pm ET.

12 delegates at stake.

No polling has been done
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:14 PM
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6. Did you read my op here:
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:15 PM
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9. no thanks for that
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TAWS Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:16 PM
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11. Seeing how Obama won all the states bordering it, I think he should win lol
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:17 PM
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12. Obama just concluded his Rally In Laramie. I believed 9,000 people showed up
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:18 PM
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13. A little comparison
Hillary in Wyoming on Friday: 1,500 people
Obama in Wyoming on friday: 8,500 people
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:23 PM
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14. Nope just ran out of posts lol
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 10:25 PM by grantcart
What Will Happen in Wyoming on Saturday?
By Marie Horrigan, CQ Staff
Wyoming uses a two-tier system for awarding delegates to the Democratic National Convention in Denver this August. On Saturday Wyoming Democrats will undertake the “first determining step” that uses a combined caucus/convention process to allocate pledged delegates.

Each of the state’s 23 counties will hold their convention throughout the day, with the last one scheduled to begin at 4 p.m. MST (6 p.m. EST), where attendees will participate in a “presidential preference vote.”

The cumulative result statewide from each county’s “preference vote” will be used to determine the allocation of seven delegates to the national convention. Candidates have to pass a threshold of 15 percent support, which means candidates who do not win at least 15 percent of the vote will be removed from contention. The seven delegates to the national convention will be allocated based on the percentage of the vote each candidate receives.

Wyoming Democrats also will indirectly select another five delegates on Saturday. County convention attendees will caucus to select delegates to the state convention, which is scheduled for May 24 in Jackson. These state delegates in turn will choose five delegates to the national convention in August.

Wyoming additionally has six so-called superdelegates, who independently decide which candidate they will support. Wyoming has 18 delegates total to the national
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:31 PM
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20. Heard Bill and Chelsea were there today
Love Jackson and hope they vote for Obama
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:32 PM
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21. Polls: Barack Obama to Hold the Line in Wyoming Caucus
http://www.associWyoming Polls: Barack Obama to Hold the Line in Wyoming Caucus
Senator Hillary Clinton stopped Senator Barack Obama's streak of primary and caucus wins at 11 with her victory in Rhode Island and reaffirmed her viability as a contender for the Democratic nomination for president by winning handily in Ohio and holding on to win the Texas Primary (the caucus results for Texas are still being tabulated). But does that mean anything to the people of Wyoming? Wyoming is the next Democratic contest point and will conduct their state caucus Saturday, March 8.

But Senator Clinton will have a difficult time in Wyoming if this year's caucuses and primaries in the Plains states are to be indicators of Wyoming's bent. It started with Obama surprisingly winning the Iowa Caucus. But he has won all the other Plains states that have voted thus far, as well as all the Rocky Mountain states and Washington state. Clinton won the entire block of Southwestern states from Texas to California (she even won Nevada by actual vote count but ended up in a delegate tie because of the Democratic representational apportioning method of delegate selection). And since race has been no real factor in the Plains states (whose populations are predominantly caucasian), Senator Clinton cannot even depend on race bias to help her out.

And since Wyoming is a caucus, Senator Clinton may have problems there as well. Senator Obama's campaign has seemed to be very effective with getting out the vote in the Caucus states. David Gergen and John King have often told CNN audiences that Obama's people are better organized and have been able to consistently get people to the polls in the caucus states. They have been able to mobilize young and urban populations to show up for the caucuses. And numbers make all the difference.

Obama took the North Dakota Caucus, 61% to 37%. The numbers were similar in Colorado's caucuses, 67% to 32%. He crushed Clinton in Idaho, 79% to 17%. Obama won Washington 68% to 31%. He also won Kansas 74% to 26%.
atedcontent.com/article/640765/wyoming_polls_barack_obama_to_hold.html
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:35 PM
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24. latest Wyoming news from The Associated Press
News Minute: Here is the latest Wyoming news from The Associated Press

Associated Press - March 7, 2008 6:55 PM ET

CASPER, Wyo. (AP) - More than 1,000 people chanting "yes, we can" greeted Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama in Casper this afternoon (Friday) at a rally on the eve of the Wyoming caucus. Sen. Hillary Clinton is also campaigning in Wyoming today (Friday), holding events in Cheyenne and Casper. The two remain locked in a close race for the Democratic nomination. At stake during Saturday's Wyoming caucuses are 12 delegates to the national convention this summer in Denver.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:39 PM
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26.  Associated Press: he appeared feisty.
In Wyoming, Obama defends his readiness to lead

Associated Press - March 7, 2008 9:15 PM ET

CASPER, Wyo. (AP) - Looking ahead to Saturday's caucus, Democratic Senator Barack Obama had to cope with some pesky issues of the recent week while campaigning in Wyoming.Today he defended himself against an ad that ran in Texas.

On Wyoming's friendlier landscape, where he is expected to win tomorrow, Obama seemed determined to ease voters' minds -- and to take a few jabs at Clinton.

Speaking in a crowded gym in Casper today, Obama alluded to Clinton's Texas ad, which suggested that only she has the experience and mettle to handle a national crisis at 3 a.m.He says the ad was designed to feed into people's fears.

Today's town-hall event was Obama's first major public appearance since the Tuesday setbacks, and he appeared feisty.




lol I think feisty is a good thing in Wyoming
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PITBOS Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:15 PM
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29. Betting odds are about 10-1 that BO wins
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 11:23 PM by PITBOS
and haven't changed much. So he should win it easy (before Ohio and Tx they dropped like a stone the nite before - not seeiing here)

For Ms he's about 31-1 fav.

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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:22 PM
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30. Prediction from a next door neighbor (Idaho): Obama 9 delegates, Hillary 3
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 11:41 PM by IDemo
for another +6 net for Obama. Completely unmattering, of course! :)


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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:30 PM
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34. That would be sweet. I hope your neighbor is right!!
Somehow I suspect 'crickets' from Hillary on this.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:33 PM
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37. No, I'm the next door neighbor, over here in Idaho
My next door neighbor probably thinks Reagan is still president ;-)
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