Michelle Obama: "I want to rip his [Bill Clinton's] eyes out!"

[candice]

From the latest New Yorker--a profile on Michelle Obama. We aren't in Laura-land any more.

“I want to rip his eyes out!” she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. “Kidding!” Obama said. “See, this is what gets me into trouble.”

[Colobo]

1. Love her!

[citygal]

82. Me, too!

She'd be a smart, tough and respected first lady.

[BlackVelvet04]

247. Respected by whom? Other idiots? n/t

[Tellurian]

257. And she said she was quoting Jackie Kennedy?

wah? This woman is more than unstable... Imagine what she'd do to Babs Bush?

[Arkana]

283. Pretty sure she was kidding

in order to get reactionary dorks in the media to flip.

[ClericJohnPreston]

292. Yeah....thats the ticket

You are a cultist.

[goclark]

288. Michelle is no idiot

But thanks for the inspiration ~ $5 donation for Pbama

[jlake]

166. You are probably joining her on the Secret Service watch list.

[joeybee12]

224. Yeah, you gotta someone with such irrational hatred...

...she's a mess.

[krkaufman]

281. Yes, it's hatred. As opposed to simply being annoyed with Bill's distortions ...

... of her husband's record.

It sounds like she was laughing about it, so I'm not seeing any hatred. You'll see it differently, I'm sure, but WGAF.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

2. I love Michelle.

[JoFerret]

207. I don't know the woman

so can't say I love or hate her. But this profile does not appeal and the in the little I have read she seems entitled and intemperate.
But she is not running for president. And Lauraland of the Stepford Wives is the worst.

[LisaL]

3. Now, whose claws are coming out?

[sandnsea]

4. lol

I don't blame her. What he did was despicable.

[JoFerret]

209. Does anyone else find these pictures creepy?

I mean the pics of politicians and their spice posing as adoring partners?

I find them very creepy. I don't want to see politicians in adoration mode.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

223. Yes. They should be punching each other.

:I

[JoFerret]

280. I don't think that

...but these overt displays are creepy. And this pic in particular is icky. I wish they (politicians in general) did not feel the need to flaunt it so much. (This is not just the Obamas but all of them. Remember the Al and Tipper kiss?

[ronnykmarshall]

286. NO!

I think it's a cute picture.

[madfloridian]

5. She's human, and I admire her so much.

And her hubby too.

I am very disillusioned with the Clintons. I hope some big guys get on board and start pushing Hillary to stop the attacks.

[Seeker30]

6. They're all nuts and unstable

[Poll_Blind]

19. Is that all black people, all women, all politicians and relatives of same or...(?) n/t

PB

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[bunkerbuster1]

183. I think Rachel Maddow's take on our "racial lizard brains" should be cited here

from memory, I believe she said:

"When white men are angry, they're tough.
When white women are angry, they're that-word-that-rhymes-with-'witch'.
When black women are angry, they're crazy.
When black men are angry, they're scary."

The more I think of this, the more I realize, that's really all you need to know from here until Election day about how the Obama family will be treated whenever Barak or Michelle say anything that's not gracious and diplomatic.

[Tellurian]

275. Michelle's mother even said: "Pretend you don't know her.."

How is that solution going to work if she's the First Lady?

From the 12 page NYorker article:

"When she was at Princeton, her brother”—Craig, now the head basketball coach at Brown, was two years ahead of Michelle—“called me and said, ‘Mom, Michelle’s here telling people they’re not teaching French right.’ She thought the style was not conversational enough. I told him, ‘Just pretend you don’t know her."

[tishaLA]

7. I adore her. She's so funny

and so smart. But she's right: that humor does get her into trouble with the humorless.

[Jim Sagle]

8. Makes Ann Coulter seem like Mother Teresa.

:puke:

[Faygo Kid]

12. Taylor Marsh makes Ann Coulter seem like Annie Sullivan

[ExFreeper4Obama]

13. Oh cmon, shes just having a little fun

Relax

[scheming daemons]

15. Clintonistas have their funny bones removed as part of their initiations.....

....

[casus belli]

170. I thought it was the part of the brain responsible for independent thought. n/t

[Arkana]

284. Along with their decency and their sense of shame.

[Catherina]

167. She really shouldn't do that to a Clinton supporter

:eyes:

[scheming daemons]

9. Great sense of humor... love her!.... Lighten up, Hillbot...

...

[AX10]

10. Going into Ann Coulter territory Michelle.

[scheming daemons]

11. Is it a prerequisite for Clinton supporters that they must lack a sense of humor and perspective?

:eyes:

[Zachstar]

They lack everything else...

Why think they have humor?

[AX10]

20. Had Bill said this about Michelle, we would have never heard...

the end of it. All of you had no problem with David Schuster's comments either. :eyes:

[scheming daemons]

28. You guys have reached a new level of pathetic....

...

"Kidding!" means what it means.

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[sdfernando]

42. I'd pay real money to

see Bill Clinton claw the air with his nails and say he'd love to scratch Michelle's eyes out....that would be a hoot to see. :)

[CatnHat]

178. What gets me

Obama's wife actually thinks she another Jackie Kennedy, wow, that's a real stretch. Jackie Kennedy had class, this one has none.

[NOLALady]

259. What?

Michelle Obama compared herself to Jackie Kennedy? When?

I remember Jackie Kennedy and Jackie Kennedy is not Michelle Obama.

[NDambi]

216. Bill's claws were never the problem..his issue lie elsewhere on the body..lol

but I'm sure he still has plenty of "claw" marks

[davidinalameda]

256. yick

it's too early for that

hell, at 8:30 pm, it's still too early

I don't like to think about anyone having sex, especially with the women that we know Bill had sex with

:puke:

[robbedvoter]

25. No, physical threats backtracked upon aides cues - not really amusing

But then I am starting to understand her assessment about the country being downright mean - I guess she is looking at BO's base - or at least at this board.

[scheming daemons]

32. Yes..of course... because you literally believe that she literally is threatening to ...

..scratch Bill Clinton's eyes out.


Are you REALLY this dense? REALLY?



My God... you really need to get a life.

[robbedvoter]

99. Nasty statememts followed by "just kidding" - not actually funny. Unless you're

this guy:

Or maybe this one

[scheming daemons]

124. Read the entire article... before AND after the joke.... it's clear....

...you're overreacting over literally nothing.

[robbedvoter]

133. I did. The poverty claim. The expectation from cousin Cheney "give us someting here"

the claim that nobody prospered during Clinton. The claim that we are a downright mean nation (projecting much?). Funny, funny stuff!

[scheming daemons]

33. Yes..of course... because you literally believe that she literally is threatening to ...

..scratch Bill Clinton's eyes out.


Are you REALLY this dense? REALLY?



My God... you really need to get a life.

[jlake]

120. Yes, I believe it. Tired of the W.O.R.M. routine.

[Faygo Kid]

34. Yes, Master of the Obvious. Next question.

[Breeze54]

182. I'm not a Clinton supporter and I think Mrs. Obama is way off track.

She needs to curb her outbursts and stop seeking attention.

It comes with a cost, whether you like it or not.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!!!!!!

[ronnykmarshall]

243. Glad someone said it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

248. no shit. if this was said about michelle or barack obama i wonder how many here would think its

funny

stupid hypocrites

[robbedvoter]

14. That whole interview is very unsettling....

[PassingFair]

Here:

You're just too sensitive for all of this...

[JoFerret]

208. That's how I found it unsettling too

I don't go much for this candidate worship stuff and find it unsettling. The article provides a little insight which I found unappealing.

But she is not running for president.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

16. Bill and Michelle... they both would have "resigned" by now if not for that darned 'married' thing

[moobu2]

17. Obviously she’s not first Lady material

[JTFrog]

201. Right. We'd be better off with a womanizing sex addict as first Laddie.

Don't even try to fucking reach for the moral high ground with this faux outrage. No one here will buy it.

[Yossariant]

18. Nutcase. Probably drugged like Laura.

[Faygo Kid]

74. Nice. Totally expected from you.

You are nothing if not consistent in your ignorance and hatred.

Of all the Hillary backers here, you are consistently the most contemptible.

Congratulations. That's quite an achievement.

[dansolo]

231. Where are the sexist police on this comment?

Funny how no one seems to be crying about sexism when it is Michelle Obama being attacked (or Laura Bush for that matter).

[Yossariant]

237. Ha! You should read the sexist remark I made on one of the Samantha Power threads.

One Obamaton's thread was titled, "BLOWBACK'S A BITCH." :evilgrin:

My own way of saying the same thing is that what goes around goes around.

:rofl:

[angie_love]

272. you're fuckin kookoo

[NOLALady]

261. Michelles does not count as a "Lady"

as someone mentioned in another thread. The sexist police are looking the other way.

[whistle]

21. That is rational?

:eyes:

[scheming daemons]

It's called a *JOKE*.... I know that concept is foreign to a lot of Hillary supporters.....

...after all, they think that SNL is funny.

[Breeze54]

184. Would that be funny if she said that on a Foreign Tour?

I think not.

She needs a course in diplomacy and PR, it seems.

[Maddy McCall]

22. Yeah, she's not ready for primetime.

Not yet.

Sooo many stumbles in the past several weeks.

[MadBadger]

135. A Stumble? C'mon Maddy, you're a little too good to believe that. Here is your context

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4961844&mesg_id=4961973

In Wisconsin, I asked her if she was offended by Bill Clinton’s use of the phrase “fairy tale” to describe her husband’s characterization of his position on the Iraq War. At first, Obama responded with a curt “No.” But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. “I want to rip his eyes out!” she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. “Kidding!” Obama said. “See, this is what gets me into trouble.”

[Skip Intro]

154. Great, she said she wasn't offended before she said she wanted to scratch his eyes out. OK - ?

:wtf:

[dansolo]

233. The description probably doesn't accurately show what happened

This is my own speculation, but I sort of pictured that when she said no, the reporter probably gave a puzzled look to her response. Sensing that the reporter was looking for a more juicy soundbite, she jokingly obliged.

[NOLALady]

262. That's exactly the way I saw it.

She was messing with the reporter.

[gmudem]

179. Is she the one that said McCain would be a better president

than a Democratic candidate? Oh wait, that was Lieberwoman.

Of course calling McCain better than Obama is more than just a stumble, it's unforgivable and shocking that supposed Democrats try to defend it.

[Kurovski]

188. "Lieberwoman".

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh holy shit, that's adorable! :rofl:

[gmudem]

190. I wish I could take credit for it.

But I've seen another people posting it today. It is a perfect name for her though.

[Kurovski]

192. It is perfect. Very simple and to the point.

And it really is sweet. Honest without being mean.

But mean is good, too. :evilgrin: It's just not always quite as accurate as this tender moniker. I imagine she'd like it, after all, Joe and her--they're good friends, aren't they?

[still_one]

23. what does it say about a women whose husband is a serially cheater

and she sticks with that person?

What does it say about a guy who constantly cheats on his wife? Does a guy who does that respect his wife?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

47. If you want to apply your definitions of marriage to others...

People define the standards of their own marriages.

It seems the height of presumption to dictate how other people should respond to things in their marriage.

The "she should have left him" thing is pretty much the definition of "not our business"

[still_one]

131. I didn't dictate anything, you did, I just commented on a hypothetical

no different then someone saying that they and someone else have more experience to be president, but someone else is just a speech

What you see is what you get

[okasha]

230. Tell us, please.

What did it say about Jackie and Ethel Kennedy?

What did it say about John and Robert Kennedy?

[CyberPieHole]

24. Michelle Obama is as disgusting and vile as Ann Coulter...without Coulter's humor...

I'd like to rip Michelle Obama's eyes out.

Kidding

[provis99]

168. Good one! Here's one for you..

You're an Asshole.

Just kidding.

[Kurovski]

191. Ann/Michelle? Oh my goodness.

Did Michelle call Bill a faggot on top of everything else?

[smalll]

26. Obamarosa does it again! /nt

[Maddy McCall]

30. !!!

:spray:

:rofl:

[Dogmudgeon]

86. Yeah, me too.

Only try expelling a mouthful of diet root beer through your nose.

--p!
Better than sex! Even better than Pepsi!

[ProSense]

40. What's that saying "bitch is the new black"? n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

58. What's the deal with this Obamarosa?

??

[Hoof Hearted]

279. !

What Maddy said!

[AtomicKitten]

27. She's got moxie.

[Freida5]

29. Next news cycle is now full!

[ProSense]

31. LOL! Now, here is context and the link:

In Wisconsin, I asked her if she was offended by Bill Clinton’s use of the phrase “fairy tale” to describe her husband’s characterization of his position on the Iraq War. At first, Obama responded with a curt “No.” But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. “I want to rip his eyes out!” she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. “Kidding!” Obama said. “See, this is what gets me into trouble.”

link

Love Michelle, and she doesn't adore McCain.

[scheming daemons]

35. Nevermind, Pro.... Clintonista's have no sense of humor.....

How low does one's IQ have to be to take this quote seriously?

[Liquorice]

57. If Bill Clinton had said this about Obama,

Obama's supporters would be foaming at the mouth and demanding Bill be kicked out of the party. You know it's true.

[scheming daemons]

68. Um.... no..... not given the context.

Context is everything.


Perspective is everything. Clintonistas lack perspective.

[Liquorice]

80. Oh okay, so if Bill Clinton joked that he wanted

to rip Obama's eyes out, you would think it was hilarious? Yeah right.

[scheming daemons]

I certainly wouldn't be upset about it......

If Bubba said... "man, I'd like to rip Michelle's eyes out... Kidding!"


I'd chuckle and say.... good one, Bill.

[BlackVelvet04]

252. It's not even clever....

just silly and childish. I like a good joke...her comments weren't funny.

[ProSense]

71. Hillary lies daily and says despicable things, and you're still trying to mischaracterize humor

for political gain on her behalf! In other words, this is whining!

[Liquorice]

93. Obama supporters whine constantly about anything Hillary says. nt

[gmudem]

180. Like when she said President McCain would be better than President Obama?

Yes I cannot possibly believe that Democrats would "whine" about that.

I wonder what Lieberwoman is doing now, maybe trying to pull some actual foreign policy experience out of her ass.

[VolcanoJen]

78. No, being rational and capable of understanding content, I'd have thought Bill was hilarious.

I miss sarcastic Bill, when at his height of attacking-Republicans-mode, to be honest.

[Liquorice]

88. I don't believe any Obama supporter would find that funny. nt

[scheming daemons]

122. People without senses of humor cannot believe the things that others laugh at....

...

For you people, it's like you see people dancing but can't hear the music yourself.



She cracked a joke. It was funny. You took offense, because you lack a sense of humor.

[jefferson_dem]

45. Go Michelle. I find her genuine frankness and candor refreshing.

Methinks the protestations from the Hillary contingent are mostly out of concern that Michelle's First Ladyship will put Hillary's to shame.

[stillcool]

95. Oh my....

that is a great article. Too bad only one sentence is being read.:rofl: Thanks for the link!

[eilen]

290. I like her

That quote illustrated that she has a personality and doesn't have every word and expression scripted for her. And heck, she's a fighter! One thing I appreciate is that she doesn't suffer from multiple personality disorder or stepford wife syndrome. She speaks her mind, kinda reminds me of Elizabeth Edwards, smart, strong, funny and individual.

She could totally take Hillary. (just joking, not advocating putting them in a ring or anything).

[babylonsister]

36. Link? Thanks. nt

[Tarheel_Dem]

37. SO DO I.....nt

[newfie4]

38. Obamarosa at her worst, this is what Ann Coulter does!

She says the most insidious things, then backtracks into "kidding" land to make it seem like everything is alright

[wileedog]

43. So you think

She really wants to claw Bill's eyes out, but cleverly threw in the "kidding" to throw us off the trail.....

Wow she is sneaky. Good thing we have your clever self to point these things out to us.

[ProSense]

49. No, they really don't think that. This and the Kerry thing is to distract from Hillary's shameful

endorsement of McCain.

[VolcanoJen]

66. Obamarosa?

Hillbot sockpuppet much?

[BlackVelvet04]

253. Liberwoman? Obamababy sockpuppet much? n/t

[casus belli]

171. What?? I hope you're kidding. n/t

[JVS]

39. Sounds like Mike Tyson

[CyberPieHole]

48. Yeah, and he went to prison. What a great comparison...fits both scuzzbags to a TEE.

[Danzo]

41. Michelle Is An Unhinged Jerk

First she makes a catty remark that "(Hillary can't run the White House if she can't run her OWN house)," now THIS? Michelle ALSO put more money in her own pockets than into patient care as a VP at the University of Chicago, too: www.Obamatruth.org

What an embarassment to humankind Michelle is.

[ProSense]

44. "What an embarassment to humankind Michelle is." Hissy fit alert! n/t

[stillcool]

50. wow..what a disgusting site.

you are an embarrassment to humankind..and animal-kind too.

[jefferson_dem]

51. Wow.

ObamaTruth. Racist much?

[Danzo]

65. LOL! Where's the Substance In Your Posts?!

All you two can do is personal attack me and BASELESSLY and FALSELY call me a racist? Can you Obama zealots actually REFUTE anything that ObamaTruth.org says?

Prove to me that you've got a leg to stand on.

[jefferson_dem]

91. That cesspool of a site speaks for itself.

The "truth" about it has been revealed here many times.

Go away.

[Danzo]

97. I Looked Into It Myself

Those PDF tax documents are VERY real.

[jefferson_dem]

107. Educate yourself.

We'll watch to see if you still proudly promote that cesspool after doing so.

---> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4677602

[Danzo]

136. The Source Isn't EVERYTHING

I see nothing in that thread that refutes the VERACITY of the tax form, the videos, or the articles on ObamaTruth.org. You can't just say, "(it's from the evil republicans so it MUST be a sham)." If an evil republican says that 2+2=4, is it any less true than if a Democrat says it?

[Danzo]

270. Is That Crickets That I Hear?

I asserted last night that nothing on ObamaTruth.com was FACTUALLY UNTRUE and I don't hear any of you refuting my assertion.

Got any rebuttals?

[emilyg]

140. You'd love it . Constantly looking for racist.

[Not the Only One]

60. Wow, that site is Rovian, except, sadly, it's Clintonian

Attack ads for a potential First Lady? Holy crap. That's a new low.

[Danzo]

69. Baseless.

Where's your proof that the Clinton's had anything to do with this site? Also, can you actually REFUTE anything that the site says?

[anigbrowl]

46. Well well...look at all the sexist remarks in this thread...

Guess you can't handle a strong black woman with a sense of humor.

[JI7]

52. from some reactions you would think she supports the use of cluster bombs

[scheming daemons]

53. I simply refuse to believe that Clinton supporters are so bereft of common sense and...

...a sense of humor that they cannot detect an obvious joke when they see it.



Is it any wonder that Hillary does so much better among the uneducated (so says all the exit polls)?



Wow.... just, wow.

[jlake]

54. She's unstable and it wasn't a joke.

She is the angriest person I have ever seen. She seethes with rage.

[scheming daemons]

62. You're the angriest person I have ever seen.... and you lack all sense of perspective and humor....

...

[jlake]

70. Michelle is clearly angry at America.

I am not angry at all - and would NEVER threaten to harm an honorable man like Bill Clinton.
The secret service should be investigating Ms. Obama.... and I bet they are.

[Maddy McCall]

76. She only said that it was a joke after her advisor gave her the stink eye.

[CatnHat]

185. I picked up on that too

Obamarosia is one very angry woman, she definitely has a need to personally belittle people, and thinks it funny :crazy: Makes one wonder if she has personality issues.

[Catherine Vincent]

55. Such rough foreplay.

:)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

56. What The Fuck Is Wrong With These People?

Calling Hillary a fucking monster, wanting to rip Bill's eyes out, are they mad?

I don't give a fuck how many criticisms people wanna make towards the hillary campaign. There ain't a damn person on her side who has called Obama a monster or that the want to claw Michelle's eyes out. WTF???????

Oh, and on edit: Who the fuck do you all think you're kidding by dismissing it as a joke and us not having a sense of humor. Have you all lost your fucking minds? If Bill DARED say this about michelle every single one of your panties would be in a wad and you'd be spamming this board left and write with your nasty ass vitriol towards him. I swear to god, everyone's fucking lost it.

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[jefferson_dem]

61. Read the context and get ahold of yourself.

Geesh...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

67. Hypocrite.

If Bill dared say this about her, you'd be foaming at the fucking mouth. You think we're born yesterday? Thing is, Bill would NEVER say that about her, even as a joke. He has class.

She has serious anger issues. For real.

[JI7]

75. she was responding to what Bill said about her husband

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

90. She's Got Issues.

[JI7]

92. as would most women if part of their life was descrbed as fairy tale

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

101. No Part Of Her Life Was Described As A Fairy Tale.

What the fuck are you talking about?

:crazy:

[JI7]

111. her husband is part of her life

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

115. Your Reply Makes No Sense, Again.

Bill called his position on the war a fairy tale. Big fucking whoop. You said he called something in her life a fairy tale. He didn't. Your replies are fairly dumb in context.

[scheming daemons]

81. Nope..... if the context is a joke, then it is a joke. Wouldn't upset me in the least...

...

[tachyon]

246. I remember how hard we all laughed when Raygun said "bombing starts in 10 minutes"

or McCain's "bomb bomb bomb Iran"

Those were some real knee-slappers. Oh wait, they were just kidding.

:eyes:

[Catherine Vincent]

96. I agree. If Big Dog would have said something similar about Michele jokingly,

Obamabots on here would want to harm him. Bunch of hypocrites.

[jefferson_dem]

98. Bill has class.

Uh-huh...

If you read the story, you would see that she was responding to the *totally classless* behavior Bill had been exhibiting this election season.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

105. I Read It, And That's Bullshit.

To this day, the way that fairy tale comment has been overdramatized is jaw dropping. Did she expect during the campaign that everything was going to be fucking lollipops, butterflies, and roses? But that doesn't mean you go around saying, even jokingly, that you want to claw his fucking eyes out.

Seriously, I think she's got some issues. Off the cuff shit like that just isn't normal.

[Maddy McCall]

73. The context actually makes it worse.

Because she said it over NOTHING.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

79. They've All Lost It. I Swear To God Maddy. I've Never Seen Such Thick Hypocrisy In My Friggin Life

All I can say is WTF???

[ProSense]

83. No Hillary lost it when she endorsed McCain! Try to gin up some outrage over that! n/t

[Maddy McCall]

84. It's worse than being in a cage with cracked-out ferrets.

No logic. No consistency. Nothing but praise for Obama, hatred for the Clintons.

[Nine]

Now *that's* funny! :D

A hilarious image but so on target. The hypocrisy is unbelievable.

[grasswire]

152. hahaha!

I've never seen a cracked out ferret, Maddy, but it's cool that you can picture them -- illogical, inconsistent, praising Obama, hating the Clintons. I wish I were a cartoonist. Thank you sincerely for the visual.

[Tarheel_Dem]

158. Amen!

I now hate the Clintons with every fiber of my being, and I wish I could get close enough to scratch both their eyes out.

[LostinVA]

241. OMFG -- the imagery is astoundingly final

Irish Breakfast tea with milk all over Haruka's laptop. She's gonna be pissed.

[scheming daemons]

89. You people have lost all sense of perspective..... can't even recognize an off-the-cuff joke when..

it is plainly obvious.


You're all over the edge.


Faux outrage about the most meaningless of things.


Clinton supporters on DU seriously have no ability to detect humor anymore.

[Faygo Kid]

94. All I can say, is when the fuck are you going to come up with an original thought.

You spew the Clinton line well, OPERATIONMINDCRIME (what the hell is THAT NAME ALL ABOUT), but you've got nothing erudite to add but . . .

FUCK, Maddy, WTF?

I trust you do not depend upon your next novel's sales to support you.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

108. You People Have Fucking Lost It.

What else is there to say?

[scheming daemons]

119. Sure... we're the ones going completely nuts over an off-the-cuff joke.......

:eyes:


The "Faux Outrage" thing is getting a little old.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

132. You Know All About That Faux Outrage Though, Don't Ya.

Lord knows so many of ya engage in it daily.

Personally, I'm not offended by the remark. It's worthless. The point is that grounded people don't say such off the cuff things. She also obviously had some intent behind it to some degree. That's just not normal. If anything, I find her behavior to be a bit disturbing, since it definitely isn't behavior that grounded people engage in. I think she has some anger issues she needs to resolve as well as some impulse control issues. But I think it's clear that most rational people, even in jest, don't just say things like that off the cuff. Now the tone of my responses isn't geared really at her comment itself, since it really is quite empty and meaningless, though a sign of her instability. Instead, it was towards those of you that are so closed minded, so childish, so hypocritical, that you dismiss it as a joke (which it didn't start out as) and as if normal people go around all the time saying such things. Hey, guess what, we don't. The fact you and others want to squelch all discussion of the comment itself and the mindset it takes to say such things, by dismissing it as some harmless joke without deeper more disturbing issues behind it, is what drew my ire. Who do you all think you're kidding?

That's it for me. This is ridiculous. But I definitely have my concerns about her, because the more I read about her the more it appears she isn't the most stable person and definitely has some anger issues.

[stillcool]

113. Did you read the article...

are you all Stepford people?

[newfie4]

117. which means she meant it!

[stillcool]

109. maybe you should read the article?

You know it is rather lengthy...so maybe not. It's probably more fun for some to just go off.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

118. I Read The Part That Matters. Her Comments Were Stupid.

I seriously am starting to believe she has some issues...

Claw Bill's eyes out? Seriously, that's just a bit not normal.

Can you tell me that you could picture Hillary or Bill saying something like that ever? No way.

[stillcool]

142. You read the part that matters?

Do you have any idea how long that article is? And you take one sentence, and judge a person on that one sentence taken out of context? Do you use that same ruler when judging yourself?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

144. She Was Asked About The Fairy Tale Comment, And That's How She Replied.

For the context of the joke, that's the ONLY paragraph that needs to be read. Why the hell are you implying the entire article has to be read in order to ascertain a judgment of that part of it? That paragraph stands alone as it relates to this topic. All the context necessary is right there. Why you're trying to imply otherwise, is a tad perplexing, since you're just quite simply wrong.

[stillcool]

217. Actually I'm trying to imply..

that there is much more to the article than one sentence, and I was wondering if you based your outrage on the whole article, or on just that one sentence taken out of context. And, I was also wondering if you judge yourself in the same manner. I think I will value your life and your person on this sentence.

"Why the hell are you implying the entire article has to be read in order to ascertain a judgment of that part of it?" OPERATIOMINDCIME

The acrimony between the Obamas and the Clintons had been intensifying in the days leading up to the Wisconsin primary. I asked Obama if she was worried about negative attacks on her husband. She was diplomatic. “We’ve pretty much heard it all,” she said.

“She’s very competitive, and she believes deeply in him and in what we’re doing,” David Axelrod said later. “I don’t think she’s a pacifist—if she thinks we’re being treated unfairly or doesn’t think we’re being aggressive enough in debunking attacks, she will say so. She does not fold up into the lotus position and start chanting ‘kumbaya.’ She’s against gratuitous attacks but she’s not against defending our position and making sure we don’t get punked.”

Others in the Obama camp were less circumspect. “I’m telling you, she’s not faking the funk, that’s for sure. Neither is he,” Craig Robinson said, over lunch in Providence. “And that’s why it’s working. That’s why people are connecting. ’Cause you can’t B.S. that good. Even if you’re Bill Clinton you can’t, because he’s getting called on it.”
------------------------------
It’s not that Obama doesn’t know the anodyne, wifely things to say (essentially, nothing). She is, after all, a “community and external affairs” professional. But her pride visibly chafes at being asked to subsume her personality, to make herself seem duller and less independent than she is, even in the service of getting her husband elected President of the United States. In Wisconsin, I asked her if she was offended by Bill Clinton’s use of the phrase “fairy tale” to describe her husband’s characterization of his position on the Iraq War. At first, Obama responded with a curt “No.” But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. “I want to rip his eyes out!” she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. “Kidding!” Obama said. “See, this is what gets me into trouble.”

I asked Robinson about Bill Clinton’s “fairy tale” comment. “He’s straight up saying things that aren’t true,” Robinson responded. “And it was great, because Barack didn’t go crazy. He just said, ‘Hey, we just have to say something when somebody says something that’s blatantly not true.’ No one’s ever called those people on it.” He went on, “Michelle and Barack’s plan is to win this election. They can’t be worried about what he says. I mean, you know, sometimes you get angry. But it’s so ludicrous that it’s almost comical. It really is. It really is. And the whole crying now before every primary? You’ve got to be kidding me. If I was a woman, I’d be embarrassed for her,” he said of Hillary Clinton.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

218. Please, Point Out To Me What Else In That Article Provides Deeper Context Than This:

"It’s not that Obama doesn’t know the anodyne, wifely things to say (essentially, nothing). She is, after all, a “community and external affairs” professional. But her pride visibly chafes at being asked to subsume her personality, to make herself seem duller and less independent than she is, even in the service of getting her husband elected President of the United States. In Wisconsin, I asked her if she was offended by Bill Clinton’s use of the phrase “fairy tale” to describe her husband’s characterization of his position on the Iraq War. At first, Obama responded with a curt “No.” But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. “I want to rip his eyes out!” she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. “Kidding!” Obama said. “See, this is what gets me into trouble.”"

Tell me why in order to forge an accurate opinion on THIS issue, the reader would need to read more than that paragraph alone. Instead of actually just PASTING parts of the article, can you actually EXPLAIN why more than that paragraph is necessary as far as this topic is concerned? Cause I'd say it's more than adequate.

[stillcool]

229. I guess it's a 'value judgement'

some appreciate sound bytes more than the story. If you can take something and use it to fling shit, apparently it is worthy. The writers intent, or the story as a whole is meaningless. It's like taking a paragraph from "War and Peace" and implying it defines the story.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

235. So Basically, You've Got Nuttin.

That was a part of the overall story. In that part, she said something a bit unstable. In order to grasp the context of the unstable comment, one need only read that ONE paragraph I recopied. Reading other paragraphs would bring NO additional perspective or directly related interpretation to that one paragraph. Your implications have been quite silly, and when asked to prove your case you couldn't. Oh well. :hi:

[stillcool]

249. Thanks for the lesson..

in reading comprehension. If it's all the same to you, I think I'll continue reading the entire article, and judge according to the whole rather than the part. I'm really silly that way.

[CyberPieHole]

164. The CULT of Obama is beyond disgusting and they take their cues from Barack and Michelle...

isn't it obvious?

[VolcanoJen]

63. Michelle is hysterical, and notably sarcastic.

I think she's awesome. :-)

[2rth2pwr]

72. Oh, how I long for the days of "The Politics of Hope*"

*copyrighted

[jgraz]

77. I've never been really proud of my country until I read that quote.

:P

[TBF]

87. Michelle needs a vacation...

I love her too - but she's as bad as Bill with those comments. It's got to be hard on the spouses having to deal with all this, and particularly for Michelle since she isn't used to all the press scrutiny yet. Unfortunately she will learn very fast with jokes like that.

[ProSense]

102. BS. Hillary forgave McCain for calling Chelsea ugly. None of the Clintons' complaints have

any sincerity to them. It's all selective outrage with them.

[Jamastiene]

100. I heard about that.

Do you know of a link to that? My aunt wanted to read it.

[JohnnyLib2]

103. Funny line.

Folks, we can't lose in terms of entertainment value in 2009. We get

--Michelle or
--Bill or
--the temporarily standing-by-his-side Cindy, yet to show her full range.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

:evilgrin: :hide:

[Bigleaf]

104. I can see it now. Hilarity Lieberwoman will demand that Barack divorce her.

[scheming daemons]

106. To OMC and Maddy and others.... the Big Dawg WOULD HAVE LAUGHED.....

...and he'd be rolling his eyes at you guys....

[Maddy McCall]

112. Oh yeah, he probably did laugh when he heard it.

And his comment to the person that informed him of what she said was probably, "Please let her do more candid interviews."

[scheming daemons]

116. Nah.... Bill's comment was probably something like....

...

"I like fiesty women like that..... I wonder if she likes cigars?"

[Name removed]

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Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

129. No, Because Bill Isn't A Child. Nice Try Though.

I'm sure he's thinking she might have issues as well.

[Catherine Vincent]

130. You're right. Big Dog would laugh at that...because that's the way he is.

But I know a group of people wouldn't be laughing if Bill had said it about Obama or Michele, that would be the hypocrites here on this board. And btw, you sure are defending Michele feverishly, I counted over 20 posts from you. :)

[madmom]

114. This was a joke, but the "pillow thing" wasn't? Who needs to get a life?

[meow mix]

123. "One of her advisers gave her a nervous look"

:rofl:

[CakeGrrl]

125. Oh. Good. GRIEF.

The OP sensationalized it by taking it out of context in the first place.

These campaigns have people really, really strung out.

Michelle ANSWERS the question, then, knowing it's going to tweak the hypersensitive, she plays the joke.

But Clinton supporters immediately proffer the proclamations that she's no better than an Ann Coulter, a drugged-out Laura clone unfit for the White House? Mentally unstable?

How many heads WON'T explode between now and PA?

[scheming daemons]

128. Exactly......the Faux outrage is getting tiresome......

..

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

134. That Does Seem To Be A Bit Unstable.

Think for a second: Have you ever recently gone around in life, and spouted for any reason, while making clawing hand gestures, that you want to rip somebody's eyes out? Sorry, but that isn't exactly the most mentally stable comment I've ever heard.

[Maddy McCall]

137. I've seen it recently.

Among preadolescent girls. That's what Michele Obama reminds me of...a little girl who shoots her mouth off, and then says "whoops!" afterwards.

Thank god we don't have to worry about her occupying the White House. She can go back to being Illinois' problem.

[CakeGrrl]

145. I'll take that anyday over

Hillary shooting off her "as far as I know" mouth and not bothering with the "whoops" - not that I agree that Michelle has any of these afflictions leveled at her. Hillary is way more problematic and dangerous to me than a candid wife with a sense of humor that is simply lost on some.

So does this mean that barring Hillary stealing the nomination, Obama won't get some of the votes on the board because it's just way too scary to let Michelle near the WH?

[CakeGrrl]

138. She's making a JOKE, and she knows it

She didn't suddenly have a psychotic out-of=control episode. She answered the question, then she deliberately joked about scratching Bill's eyes out, and acknowledges it's exactly the kind of thing that gets people all hot and bothered looking to find flaws with her. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. So to speak.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

143. It Was Immature And Unbecoming Of Someone Vying For The Position She Is.

Never in a million years could I see Bill or Hillary 'joking' about such things.

I'm not disputing it was a joke. My concerns are the mental mindset one must have to just off the cuff MAKE a joke like that. Seriously, take a step back, think about it, and you'll see. Do the clawing motion in the air, say the words "I want to rip his eyes out" while doing it, tell me if you can see yourself doing the gesture and saying the words in real life, under normal circumstances. Tell me if you'd feel like the most mentally stable person in the world doing so.

That behavior, even as a joke, for a woman her age, is just quite simply not normal. It just isn't. She's got some issues...

Goodnight.

[rodeodance]

156. It's not politically astute--except for her on DU!!

[LostinVA]

242. Certain people can't make certain jokes -- they just can't

When a family member runs for certain offices, the other family members ahve to become perfect;. It's why the Bush Twins told their father not to run for office, and they were right. Michelle Obama's position makes her in the fish bowl even more: she would be FIRST LADY. A very visible and a very diplomatic role. Hillary's cookie comment -- taken totally out of context by the "liberal media" is STILL used against her -- including here on DU. It's also what sunk Ms. Powers yesterday: the comment themselves were, in and of themselves, only kinda bad, but because of her position with Senator Obama's campaign, they became REALLY bad.

I'm so glad I don't have to worry about Haruka running for President.

[Windex]

126. what will Michelle say about

Hillary telling folks in Mississippi "there may be a Hillary-Obama ticket in the future but you have to vote for me first"?

[JohnnyLib2]

127. Uh-oh. An epidemic of "last-worditis" has struck.

Again.

[ContinentalOp]

139. OMG this woman is awesome!

Having her as the first lady will be quite entertaining. I can't wait. I think she would be simultaneously the most and the least popular first lady ever.

[bleowheels]

141. She probably caught Bill "checking her out."

Can't blame her then.

[robbedvoter]

220. Yesss! We have a winner! First to find a way to vlame it on the Mighty Clenis!

Un f*ingbelievable!

[Pisces]

146. Go Girl. Me too!!

[seabeyond]

147. bah hahahah. lol lol. the see this is what ...trouble. i can so identify. lol a woman with

passion

damn it is hard harnessing those liberal women be it hillary, teresa, or michelle, lol lol even elizabeth to an extent. not necessarily tipper.

[Dogmudgeon]

148. You go, Girl!

I really want Michelle Obama to speak with as little restraint as she can.

Let it all hang out, baby!

Speak from your feelings. Because we all know that there's nothing truer and more intelligent than to give unimpeded vent to one's feelings. No matter what they are.

If you want to rip Bill's eyes out, or are ashamed of America, or anything else, you go right ahead and say it. Loud and proud, you fierce and empowered rich woman, you!

:applause:

--p!

[Breeze54]

149. Even if said in jest? Not presidential material...

She should go back to her books... maybe she missed that class?

The one about diplomacy.

Why does she hate her husband so much?

[seabeyond]

Not presidential material... she isnt running for president

and none of them are going to like any of the candidates wives... unless it is a little stepford wife like laura and i dont think ANY woman should be forced to do that for any marriage.

[Breeze54]

157. She has a role as the represntative of the US president, as the first lady, if it happens.

She should behave accordingly, and not like an attention whore.

She demeans herself and her husband and if her husband does win

this, she will be representing the whole country. We deserve a

First Lady with class, not a gasbag! She needs to get control of her mouth.

[seabeyond]

160. eeeeeeeewwwwww to your post. n.t

[Metric System]

150. Hopefully the Secret Service will be at her door shortly. She is threatening a former President,

after all. And no, even I'm not sure if I'm joking or not.

[Skip Intro]

151. Wow, is that the hope or the change talking? Now the claws come out?

[seabeyond]

153. i dont think she said anything about hop or change, i believe that is her husband

you are refering to. this is a whole other independent body.....

[Skip Intro]

155. Ok, it's her speaking. WTF is she saying?

[IsItJustMe]

159. This is outrageous, it shows that Obama should no where be near the red phone.

:sarcasm:

[seabeyond]

162. ya she might answer it and threaten to scratch eyes out and divert or start

ww3

[bridgit]

161. Well bless her little ole heart for the sentiment, it's endearing

[seabeyond]

163. i just love where her eye connect and can just visualize the KIDDING

i mean geez is a duh, but she has to say it to the morons.

[joshcryer]

165. There's truth to every joke.

I'm sure she has as much vitirol against Bill as people here do.

[Eurobabe]

169. So should Bill ask Obama to fire her too?

snark.

[nonconformist]

172. If Bill or Hillary had said that about Barack or Michelle, the SHIT WOULD BE HITTING THE FAN

Explosions of threads, massive amounts of outrage. Even racist accusations.

You know it's true.

Me, I don't think it's a huge deal, but it does underscore the inexperience of this campaign. But I guarantee you if this was a comment going the other way, people would be twisting the hell out of it. Obviously, history dictates that.

[GoldieAZ49]

173. LOL I think every woman has felt that way about Bill

or like twisting the family jewels off

Good for her for saying so

[dave29]

174. I want to rip his eyes out

The man wasted his presidency on a few blow jobs

[Tarheel_Dem]

176. and Gore was the one who got screwed because of it....n/t

[Beacool]

175. She always shoots her mouth.

Keep it coming Michelle, you're helping Hillary with your comments. Are you still "really" proud of your country?

[CatnHat]

187. What does

Mrs. Obama hope to gain by shooting off her mouth? Seems to me, Obama has problems with his women controlling their "emotions". Ms. Power had a fit over Hillary, and Obama's wife acting like some pundit, and last but not least, Obama zealots who actually "get off" slamming the Clinton's. Thanks for exposing Obama's facade of change and hope. Mr. and Mrs. Pretender. (A person who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives).

[cooolandrew]

177. How do we trust media when it lies so much I want to of heard it really NY paper hey.

Barack MUST record every interview audibly.

[LostinVA]

244. This is THE NEW YORKER

It's one of the most respected magazines in the US, and is legendary for it's fact checking.

[rodeodance]

181. It was not politically wise of her to say this--joke or not.

[LulaMay]

186. Did she really say this? That is unbalanced, crass.

[casus belli]

189. It's called humor.

It is used to induce an inward feeling of joy in humans.

[LulaMay]

193. Hardly appropriate for the spouse of a presidential candidate, and not funny either. Weird.

[Kurovski]

194. How weird is banging someone with a cigar in the Oval Office?

Yeah. We're pretty much stuck with issue-laden crackpots all-around, ain't we now?

[Justitia]

195. zing! -eom

[LulaMay]

197. I didn't say that was appropriate, and your comment is crass. He wasn't being interviewed!

It was a Rove campaign to spy on him and destroy him.

[Kurovski]

203. Yeah, I used to defend him too.

But the Constitution was more important, and the assault on Clinton was an assault on the Constitution, IMO. It was Banana republic tactics from the Repubs.

It was self-destructive behavior on his part, and it indicated "issues" were controlling him.

Of course it's crass. And my comment was crass. He was no Roosevelt when it came to conducting his private affairs. He had no emotional passion or respect there. It was more on the level of a compulsive 16 year old. Like Beavis, only with Leaves of Grass.

[Breeze54]

198. Now that's a RW comment if I've ever heard one.

That was hearsay, if I remember correctly.

"as well as testimony from Lewinsky that the President had inserted a cigar-tube into her vagina, Clinton admitted that he lied to the American people and that he had had "inappropriate intimate contact" with Lewinsky."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky

SHE said he did that but there was never any proof and it wasn't a cigar, as she had stated, it was a cigar TUBE...

[Kurovski]

205. Why? just because I've got the tubes mixed-up?

Clinton engaged in self-destructive behavior. If we're talking about appropriate behavior for spouses, then I see no reason not to discuss this.

Yes, it was his private life, but he knew the pubbies were out for blood. And it's not like he was abdicating the throne for his truest love, he risked and damaged our political standing and helped to cast a crisis from actions befitting a horny tween. The Oval Office? Smooth move, Romeo.

[Breeze54]

210. How is this event HRC's fault?

Have you lost your fucking mind?

You are spouting RW hate speech!! Get a fucking grip!!! :grr:

[Kurovski]

264. It isn't her "fault". And which event are you referring too?

How is Mrs. Obama having herself a silly, catty moment the fault of her husband? We could go 'round forever with this stuff.

We're talking about presidential spouses, and their own behavior.

Call me "Karl Milhouse Reagan-Rove" for all I care. It is what it is, but Right Wing hate speech? C'mon, Breeze, that diminishes any actual hate speech that promotes repression and abuses of people far less powerful than the Clinton's of the world.

[Bluerthanblue]

227. more than a little bit of sexism in your comment there

Ms. LulaMay.


Sexism is not something confined to those who do not support Hillary-

You prove this point very well.


peace~

[VotesForWomen]

196. why would she even kid like that? i'm sorry, O folks have really lost it. nt

[NYPat]

199. Not funny in the current atmosphere

I sure hope she was kidding but with Power's monster comments, death threats against Tavis Smiley, and the venomous Hillary attacks I read on GD Primaries it's hard to laugh it off.

[Kurovski]

206. Has there been a rash of eye-scratchings?

Heavens to Mergatroid! What is this world coming to?

[susankh4]

200. Not ready for prime time.

That's how I read it.

Wanting to do physical harm to "the monster's" husband.

we begin to get a real glimpse of what goes on inside the "all love and light" camp.

[Guava Jelly]

202. I think I love her

:loveya:

[ronnykmarshall]

287. Just like those sweet things ol' Annie Coulter says!

[JTFrog]

204. Gotta love that faux outrage from Hillary's pristine supporters.

Once again, only in Hillaryland can Hillary supporters try to claim moral high ground against ANYTHING. There has never been a better study for cognitive dissonance.

[WinkyDink]

212. Gotta love this faux-admiration for the outre' from Obama's fawning supporters.

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:x3f2HcPtiqgJ:www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/13/america/michelle.php+michelle+obama+smelly&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
But Michelle Obama's confident, commanding presence has its drawbacks. During an address last month for an African-American awards gala in Atlanta, some in attendance were left feeling that she had been condescending, preaching to a group of achievers about the need to achieve.

"Her speech was very long and inappropriate for that occasion," said Vivian Creighton Bishop, a public official in Columbus, Georgia, who supports Clinton.

Michelle Obama has also had to learn to tamp down her sometimes biting humor because it too often leaves Barack Obama as the punch line. (It has been a long time since she has talked publicly about her husband of 15 years being smelly in the morning, as she told Glamour magazine, or forgetting to put away the butter.)

[Perry Logan]

213. Plus we've noticed that all your accusations against Hillary are bullshit.

In case you hadn't noticed, this is common knowledge among the sane people at DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4779500&mesg_id=4779500

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4849238&mesg_id=4849238

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4922044&mesg_id=4922044

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4942967&mesg_id=4942967

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4964704&mesg_id=4964704

[JTFrog]

214. Here is your BULLSHIT.

Voting against banning cluster bombs after voting to use force on a sovereign nation DOES NOT COME FROM MORAL HIGH GROUND.

Stomping through the garden like a spoiled child trying to stamp out the sprouting budlettes of hope and change if she can't get what she wants DOES NOT COME FROM MORAL HIGH GROUND.

Trying to swiftboat a democratic candidate while pumping up the republican candidate so you can try to get another shot in four years DOES NOT COME FROM MORAL HIGH GROUND.


What did your links have to do with me? I may have opinions, but I don't make baseless accusations nor do I encourage others to do so.

*edit - spelling

[WinkyDink]

211. OMG. Reverse parties, and see if there'd be any "I love Hillary!" comments. MO is a bee-yotch.

But hey---at least she's an Equal Opportunity bee-yotch. Now the world knows her kids think their father stinks in the morning.

"But Michelle Obama's confident, commanding presence has its drawbacks. During an address last month for an African-American awards gala in Atlanta, some in attendance were left feeling that she had been condescending, preaching to a group of achievers about the need to achieve.

"Her speech was very long and inappropriate for that occasion," said Vivian Creighton Bishop, a public official in Columbus, Georgia, who supports Clinton.

Michelle Obama has also had to learn to tamp down her sometimes biting humor because it too often leaves Barack Obama as the punch line. (It has been a long time since she has talked publicly about her husband of 15 years being smelly in the morning, as she told Glamour magazine, or forgetting to put away the butter.)

"What I've learned is that my humor doesn't translate to print all the time," she said in the interview. "But usually when I'm speaking to a group, people understand what I'm trying to say. They get the humor, they understand the sarcasm, they get the joke."
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:x3f2HcPtiqgJ:www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/13/america/michelle.php+michelle+obama+smelly&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

Don't kid a kidder, Michelle; sarcasm "works" only for the speaker, and there is always hostility, not good humor, behind it.

[NDambi]

215. I'm feeling her...for real. I'd like to do it to Bill and Hill...

[Stuckinthebush]

219. Funny. I think we can all understand her frustration

n/t

[joeybee12]

228. Yeah right...newsflash...not everyone hates the Clintons...

...come out into the real world sometime.

[Stuckinthebush]

299. I went out into the real world today

Yep, you are right, not everyone hates the Clintons.

But most people are sick of them.

[mtnsnake]

221. Michelle Obama reminds me more & more of Ann Coulter every day

with the sorry shit she comes out with about fellow Democrats, especially about one of the finest American presidents of all time, Bill Clinton.

[Bluerthanblue]

236. As a Hillary supporter, your frame of reference doesn't surprise me-

but it does disappoint me.

I don't pay Coulter, Rush, O'Reiley and their kind much mind-
Seems that Hillary supporters must be avid readers/listeners to them for some strange reason?

:shrug:

peace~

[mtnsnake]

240. Where were you

all the times when Hillary was being compared to much worse scenarios than this...a thousand times over...and called some of the most disgusting rightwing names in the book on DU 24/7? :shrug:

peace

[Bluerthanblue]

245. I was here- and not posting the kind of crap you did- If it's wrong

Snake- it's WRONG.

You don't like people calling Hillary all kinds of outrageous shit?- why do you do it to others?
Is it only 'wrong' when it hurts you? This is a ticket for the self defeating spiral into the hell we've been living in all my stupid life. :shrug:

You enjoying the ride?

I sure as hell hope not- we have no hope for a better day tomorrow if this is the mindset of the people today.

peace~

[mtnsnake]

255. You are selectively critical

When Hillary is getting called disgusting names that would make even a construction worker blush, I don't recall you ever being critical of THEM.

peace

[Bluerthanblue]

260. well, I'm sorry I can't

show you some, I have posted a few- but I don't have the search capability-

If you do a search you will find some where I have called out people who posted blaitently rude comments.
I can't say that I'm perfect- but I do try and be honest.

And I HAVE called people on some comments about Hillary in the past few weeks.

peace~

[mtnsnake]

263. OK, I take your word for it

:hi:

[Neshanic]

222. The dynamics of the Obama marriage are becoming a bit more obvious.

[Kurovski]

266. Do tell, Dr. Love.

And when you're done with the Obamas, let's move on to the McCains, the Clintons, and for shits and giggles--the Huckabees and George and Martha Washington.

[Neshanic]

301. Lets! I think it would be fascinating. Others have noticed the strange dynamics. You dish first!

[stillrockin]

225. get in line

[Bake]

226. Really funny, MO. Bill is a former POTUS.

She's showing a lot of "grace" there. Oh, wait ... no she's not.

She's about as "presidential" as her husband. Says shit knowing "this will get me in trouble."

Ha ha.

Bake

[gulliver]

232. "Tereza" Obama reminds me of early Hillary

Hillary had a few "clever" remarks in Bill's first campaign that got her into trouble. Nancy Reagan didn't get weird until after Ronnie had already been elected. Babs Bush played the role we all wanted her to play, her fangs retracted until just a few years ago. Laura does the job the best of all--politically speaking.

[NOLALady]

273. Too bad

Michelle cannot behave more like Laura.

[WinkyDink]

297. Not to mention a circumspect potential First Lady.

[CatnHat]

305. Or like

Jackie Kennedy.

[bluedawg12]

234. Loose cannon + Bar = Obamarosa.

The mouth that roared.

[tachyon]

238. Oh great, just what we need in a "first lady"

:eyes:

[citizen snips]

239. it was a pathetic attempt to be funny.

If Hillary said this there would be hell to pay.

[NastyRiffraff]

250. Sarcastic type humor has ALWAYS been used to try to make hostility acceptable.

That's what Michelle was doing here. I don't doubt that it was a "joke;" the kind of joke that insults and scorns, then hides behind "humor," with the speaker (or defenders) expressing shock and MORE scorn because those offended are "humorless." It's a very, very common tactic.

Personally, I don't like Michelle, and not because of this incident. She comes across to me as a snarky know-it-all, the kind that sneered at the "lesser beings" in school because she was soooo much more intelligent and savvy than ANYONE else. And this kind always had a clique of adoring sycophants, even in school. We all know this type, and the insulting humor is a big part of their arsenal.

[amborin]

268. exactly...the worst sadists and abusers, when caught, will always say was just a joke

there's actually a large literature on this....

that the excuse of "humor" is used to cover vicious, sadistic attacks....

that the so-called jokes are true expressions of feelings and intent

[ElsewheresDaughter]

251. what a loonytoon

[angie_love]

274. I know you are.

[kwassa]

254. I'm a Hillary supporter, but still think Michelle Obama is great.

and I think the OP is out to lunch, that you can't and shouldn't keep her under wraps.

Michelle would make a good candidate in her own right. She is an excellent speaker, and is smart as hell.

I think her support of her husband is very protective and entirely normal. What do you want, a Stepford wife for Barack?

[Cass]

258. Wow, kidding or not, this is an unprofessional and inappropriate remark.

She has the potential to do some serious damage in GE with stupid, juvenile outbursts like this.

And to all you Obama supporters who claim you wouldn't be upset if Hillary or Bill Clinton were to say this about either of the Obamas, that is pure bull. Most of you would be foaming at the mouth with indignant outrage.

[BlueStater]

291. I agree

Not funny and quite juvenile. I'd be embarrassed to have the First Lady of the United States saying things like this.

She seems to put her foot in her mouth a lot.

[galaxy21]

265. So, because shes's not a stepford wife (laura)...

Suddenly, she's a threat?

Honestly, it's like in poltics you can either be the meek, passive, spouse who has nothing to say, or a pushy,elitist with a big mouth. There's no in between?

[brentspeak]

289. It doesn't do our nation any good to have a First Wife making headlines every night

with the latest outrageous quote. The same could be said with having a First Husband like Bill Clinton: we'd be inundated every day with more People Magazine gossip "news", polluting our already polluted media.

I'd prefer the meek, passive spouse who simply stays in the background, thanks. This country has important work to do.

[Barack_America]

296. Umm, isn't that EXACTLY what Hillary did?

When she was First Lady?

:shrug:

[amborin]

267. pretty outrageous remarks: zero social skills

imagine the obama crowd's uproar if the tables had been turned and bill had said that...

this woman is not ready for prime time

she's crude, rude, impulsive, zero social skills

[Kurovski]

276. It would have been even funnier if President Clinton did it.

It's often more accurate to save your personal "what ifs" for dreams of being a lottery winner.

Not that we have to wonder for too long about the many different reactions different folks would have to ANY situation, because the corporate Media is always kind enough to let us know how we feel.

Impulsive crack from Michelle? Yes, but at least she didn't drop trou or horndog a reporter. Please. Why do people insist on comparing the "crudeness" and "impulsive" factor between the spouses here? Michelle won't be usurping president Clinton's title anytime soon.

[lame54]

269. And to think we could of had Elizabeth Edwards as first lady...

[TheDeathadder]

271. Awesome!!

Thanks Michelle Obama...you've taught us time and time again it's ok to say whatever the hell you want as long aa you say “Kidding!”

Hey maybe you can bring more jokes to the white house when you pay to take the tour during the next 8 years of President Clinton.

[Thepricebreaker]

277. Is Bill going to cry now?

[qnr]

278. She wears fuschia glitter polish

Yep.

[lumpy]

282. So funny Obama had to say "Kidding" ? Yeah, funny.

NOT

[rucky]

285. No she di'nt!

ugh.

[Jillian]

293. Classless.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

294. mmm taste of that O "Hope" &"Change".....tastes as shitty as Bush's "Compassionate Conservatism

[CyberPieHole]

308. LOL...funny (but gross) taste test...

:rofl:

[roseBudd]

295. She looks great, she's tall, looks really goood in her clothes, but she doesn't have that blond

bimbo McCain look with those freaky eyes.

And those adorable little girls. It'a winning visual for tv spots

[WinkyDink]

298. Tell me again how crude Roseanne Barr is?

[anonymous171]

300. Sometimes I do too. nt

[Az_lefty]

302. I'm really starting to like Michelle...

you go girl!!!

[amborin]

303. Michelle Obama worked for a Wall Mart Supplier, for $100,000 yearly

Chicago Tribune (Illinois)

May 22, 2007 Tuesday

Michelle Obama resigns as director of Wal-Mart supplier

BYLINE: By Christi Parsons, Chicago Tribune

WASHINGTON _ Michelle Obama resigned her position as a director of TreeHouse Foods on Tuesday, ending the relationship with the Wal-Mart supplier that had threatened to become a problem for the presidential campaign of her husband, Sen. Barack Obama.

TreeHouse supplies pickles and other foods to Wal-Mart, a frequent target of union leaders who say the company treats its workers unfairly.

Michelle Obama cited increased demands on her time for resigning the position, according to a TreeHouse official. She has recently stepped up her time commitment to the campaign, appearing as a surrogate for her husband in campaign appearances and appealing to would-be donors for support.

"As my campaign commitments continue to ramp up, it is becoming more difficult for me to provide the type of focus I would like on my professional responsibilities," she said in a written statement. Her top priorities are taking care of their daughters and supporting her husband during the campaign, she said.

But the decision comes as Democratic presidential candidates are under pressure to distance themselves from Wal-Mart, a key target of one of the party's most important constituencies. As a member of the Senate, Barack Obama has been one of Wal-Mart's most outspoken critics.

snip

Michelle Obama's announcement preceded a fundraiser for her husband this week at the Washington law firm of Jones Day, which has represented Wal-Mart. The fact that some in Democratic circles are discussing that link this week is just one sign of how attentive partisan activists are to the Wal-Mart issue these days.

The reason they care is that union leaders are so intensely focused on the business practices of the company, which they say pays its workers too little, charges too much for health benefits and discriminates against women. Reached by the Chicago Tribune on Tuesday afternoon, a spokeswoman for Wal-Mart declined to comment.

But critics have noted that TreeHouse depends heavily on Wal-Mart for its business, according to the company's annual report.

The value of Michelle Obama's compensation package for serving on the company's board last year was slightly more than $100,000, according to a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

[Kurovski]

304. Was she ripping people's eyes out at work?

The top two choices we're given for president are going to be members of the club. And then there's McCain.

Our job is to decide which one has been swimming in the vat of shit to the least possible ill-effect.

Welcome to our modern world.

[aquarius dawning]

306. Bill likes it when they try that.

kidding

[GalleryGod]

307. A Full, "Lorraine Bobbit" would better Express My Feelings right now! Here's Some Reading:

One,Sick,Couple.

[qnr]

309. Giving sassholes a bad name

The Itchy and Scratchy Show.