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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:00 PM
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Obama fund-raiser in fraud trial
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7282862.stm

The Chicago trial of a fund-raiser for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has opened with the prosecutor alleging massive fraud.

The prosecutor alleged that Antoin "Tony" Rezko was behind a $7m (£3.5m) plan to extort money from firms trying to do business with Illinois state.

Mr Obama has not been accused of any wrongdoing and has donated the money raised for him by Mr Rezko to charity.

Mr Rezko denies the charges, saying he only raised funds for politicians.

Mr Obama's links to Mr Rezko have brought the first whiff of scandal to an election campaign that has rapidly gained momentum.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:03 PM
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1. Woah! This is the first I've heard of this
Why hasn't this been posted about before? This is going to doom Obama.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:04 PM
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4. I guess I'll have to vote for Hillary Voldemorticia then.
:cry:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:58 PM
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14. Nice cats
...nasty attitude toward a great dem politician.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:02 PM
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23. Thank you, but Hillary dissed all of us who support Obama.
Basically, she said we are a bunch of starry eyed fools.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:55 PM
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24. It's called politics
It's what politicians do. Barack and Hillary are politicians.

Both would be great presidents.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:20 PM
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25. And yet somehow Obama has managed not to insult ever single Hillary voter
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:35 PM
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26. Amazing, no?
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 10:38 PM by JoFerret
I have a thicker skin but Obama's campaign and he ...have been plenty insulting. I find his tone patronizing, his words manipulative and generally off. And that's just for starters. Not to mention his unwavering policy centrism.

But it won't stop me cheering his victory should he win the nomination and then the election.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:04 PM
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2. And what about Hsu?
Oh, I forgot...we already know the Clintons are shameless.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:51 PM
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22. Hsu who? What did Hsu do to you? An apology is due, From you.
Are we supposed to throw rotten tomatoes at Hillary because this hoodoo Hsu -- whom she did not know -- sent money (who knew?) to her campaign?

If that's not the reason you want us to look down on Hillary because of her tenuous connection to this mope Hsu, then pray tell us what DID Hillary do wrong regarding him? What crime? What lapse in morality or judgment or ethics? What error did she make? What?

If you can't specifically say what she did wrong, then you owe Hillary and others you've misled an apology.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:04 PM
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3. what is this Rezko thing of which you speak?
I have only seen a brazillian posts on here about it already.

Did you also know that he has fathered two black babies?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:05 PM
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5. Are you sure you want to go there?
Eugene Lum: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; felony conviction; money laundering (Los Angeles Times, "First Fund-Raising Sentences Meted Out" September 10, 1997)

Nora Lum: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; felony conviction; money laundering (Los Angeles Times, "First Fund-Raising Sentences Meted Out" September 10, 1997)

Johnny Chung: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; many visits to Clinton White House and Oval Office with mainland Chinese associates; several illegal campaign contributions, money laundering, tax fraud, and bank fraud guilty pleas (Associated Press: "Democrat Fund-Raiser Pleads Guilty" March 17, 1998)

Roger Tamraz: Clinton/Gore campaign contributor and colleague; many visits to Clinton White House and Oval Office; fugitive from Lebanon embezzlement convictions; target of French government financial investigation; BCCI connections (The Wall Street Journal: "Integrity of the Institutions" March 20, 1997, et. al.)
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:27 PM
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18. Of course we want to go there!! Obama should be investigated just as much as the Clintons were.
Let's drag out all the old files, every scrap of evidence, all the court decisions, all the testimony, all the unexamined documents and records, including every check the Obamas ever wrote...

Then let's appropriate 100 FBI agents and 100 million dollars and start looking into the Rezko deal from every possible angle, following each thread no matter where it leads, using all the witness-intimidation power of the Federal Government, with the overt intention of charging Barack or Michelle with any crime an unscrupulous prosecutor can go to a Grand Jury with.

That's where the Clintons went when their political opponents looked into their finances. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to see the Obamas go there, too.

Then we could all take a look at all of BOTH couples' dirty laundry and SMELL whose is stinkier.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:06 PM
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6. good thing he's been cleared by Fitz, eh?
And isn't it a shame that there are and will be lots more stories about the Clintons and all their dirty money and dubious connections. Check out the story about Bill's worthless stock being bought for $700,000. How sad for hillbots.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:08 PM
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9. Good thing the M$M is fair and balanced and won't give a shit if he
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 02:11 PM by golddigger
is cleared by Fitz, eh!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:36 PM
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13. At least he doesn't have the history of
Hill and bill when it comes to tainted money.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:07 PM
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7. You need to get out more.
:hi:

Brought to you by, Divernan:

Rezko has a tie with one of Clinton's biggest donors.
The inhouse atty. of a corporation headed by Clinton's big ($180,000) donor, IPA, is identified as "Individual H" in the Illnois criminal indictment of Rezko. This atty. is also a Clinton donor. Here's the link & the info.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4907332
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:13 PM
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17. And Obama knew Rezko for 17 years. Best buds I tell ya!
:hi:
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:31 PM
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19. Good! Let's look into this just as deeply as we look into Obama's ties with Rezko.
Fair's fair.

I know the Clinton camp is not afraid of having everything come out about this deal.

Is Obama willing to be equally honest and straightforward about all HIS ties to Rezko?

Hmmmmmmmmm?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:08 PM
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8. Great Title for the thread!
:rofl:
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:10 PM
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10. $150K Yawn!! I wonder how much the Saudis have given to the Clintons?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:13 PM
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11. More than $150,000 I venture to guess.......
just add like three more zeros and another comma and we may guess close.

Of course, at some point between the end of the primary and the beginning of the GE, it will become much clearer too late.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:15 PM
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12. A link that Clinton critics will find ESSENTIAL.
The information here -- all of it from unimpeachable sources (BWAHAHAHA!) -- about the dirt, the crimes, the slime, and the TREASON of Billary Klintoon is incredible:
Links to evidence of Clinton crimes since 1988 or earlier.


--p!
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:05 PM
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15. Wow! After reading the link you sited I now see where all the Obamites are
getting their talking points. Hmm, word for word.lol
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:09 PM
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16. My God, the Clenis was seen on the grassy knoll. This is HUGH!1!1!1
:rofl:
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:34 PM
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20. Everyone note that the source for this tripe is Free Republic. IOW, wingnut alert!
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:47 PM
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21. Hillary & Bill to go to trial in Oct. '08 - Nobody is perfect! Read about it all link
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 03:53 PM by 1776Forever
I think there is a lot of stuff out there on Hillary and Bill that will come out in the next few weeks and months and this will include an impending trial in CA for Paul v. Clinton - video (on the bottom of the page)and info at:

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/could_the_paul_v_clinton_fraud_suit_upset_the_clinton_democratic_party/

If this changes and you don't find the video just put in Paul v. Clinton in the search engine box at the top of the page.

The article is entitled Could the Paul v Clinton Fraud Suit Upset the Clinton Democratic Party?

This in no way says that Clinton is guilty BUT the trial is going to be coming up in Oct, 08!

:wow:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:41 PM
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27. huh?
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Ok, the jerk off fest is now over, need a towel and a smoke? :smoke:
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