CNN: Sen. Clinton comes in strong, in Wyoming... in a 23% loss

[krkaufman]

Just had to post this because I found it hilarious.

Jessica Yellin (CNN):

"... in Cheyenne, Wyoming, the site of Democratic caucuses, today. Barack Obama the winner of today's caucuses, at least projected by CNN; Sen. Clinton coming in strong, as well, walking away with 4 delegates for her. Uh... he's walking away with 7 delegates of his own, and 1 delegate yet to be determined."

So, now, losing by 23% (38%-61%) is "coming in strong."

Cheers! :toast:

[chitty]

1. They used to have

Suzanne Malveaux covering Obama. She was doing a great job.

Now the have Yellin.

She comes off like a "Hill Shill"

[krkaufman]

2. Yellin's covering Obama?! I assumed she was just a temp fill-in.

She *totally* came across, in this brief clip, as spinning pro-Hill. I'm not making any broad declarations, only commenting on how this very brief segment was spun. A 23% loss is "coming in strong"?

p.s. Any explanation for the switch? Where's Malveaux, now?

[chitty]

23. It appears to me that

they made Yellin the main Obama reporter about a week or so ago.

At least that the way it appears.

[TwilightGardener]

28. She covers the Obama campaign from Clinton events. I am not kidding.

[malletgirl02]

29. If it is True

If what you are saying is true then she is a really bad reporter.

[TwilightGardener]

30. I watched her do it all week. She would stand in front of whatever

Hillary or Bill venue that was going on, and then mention what was going on (obviously elsewhere) with Obama--always with Hillary and/or Hillary signs in the background. I think they only sent a camera crew to cover Obama this week.

[malletgirl02]

32. Thanks

I stop watching TV news a while ago. As you know that is bad journalism. What makes me sad is that journalism is such a competive field, and I'm sure there are reporters who are there at smaller publications or channels, or even who are out of work who would be better.

[krkaufman]

43. That is a saddening thought, especially because of the likelihood of it being accurate.

So many in the news media, currently, are just pretty faces, with no qualifications whatsoever.

[Leopolds Ghost]

57. CNN and Yellin are ALWAYS paid to push the Republican line -- beef up Clinton and wound Obama

as always.

[grantcart]

3. somebody noticed that their map was giving districts 50/50 to Hillary and was

complaining about CNN bias. Went back a few hours later and they had to add black so that tied districts would not be either Clinton or Obama lol.

[krkaufman]

10. They've got some awesome graphics technology going ...

... but seem to have missed a very basic feature, eh? Who'd a thunk ties possible?

[TwilightGardener]

4. Wow. And yet, Obama failed miserably in the Texas primary, losing

by a pants-shittingly devastating 3%, a sure sign of "buyer's remorse", and no mention of the caucus/delegates as a win. We are now down the rabbit hole.

[anonymous171]

9. Media wants it to continue. Gets them better ratings.

It's pretty sickening.

[krkaufman]

11. Not just better ratings. They want some of that advertising money.

The longer this goes on, the more money that must be spent on campaign advertising.

[gblady]

5. the remaining delegate...

what determines that last delegate?
why is it still questionable?

[krkaufman]

13. dunno. CNN certainly wouldn't bother telling us

I expect it depends on finalizing some count somewhere. (delegate allocation is so bloody complex)

[milkyway]

36. It is an add-on delegate won by Obama. It's a vote at the state convention, so whoever wins the

state--Obama--will win the add-on.

Here's an excellent kos diary about Wyoming.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/8/61411/81462

[krkaufman]

44. Interesting! I just saw some website/show that said Clinton won the 5th delegate.

Still looking...

(thx for the info)

[Recursion]

39. He will be drawn and quartered

with portions given to each candidate.

Oh, sorry, that's the party I was thinking of.

[Cha]

6. cnn is trying to use Orwellian

psyche ops to influence voters who they don't think can ascertain what a strong finish in second place is. My son called tonight from Kauai and said "61% to 38%!"..he heard it on tv and he figured it out that it was a blowout for Obama and it was a congratulatory call! :toast: :bounce:

[AtomicKitten]

7. They are being sensitive to her needs.

Everybody knows caucuses are mean to Hillary and make her sad. :(

[Zhade]

14. LOL

Oh, that was awesome.

[AtomicKitten]

21. *

Hey, quit being a stranger around these parts!

:hi:

[krkaufman]

18. And this was one of those ultra-nasty, irrelevant small, red state caucuses. n/t

:)

[AtomicKitten]

20. your avatar is scaring me

:scared:

[krkaufman]

25. Then it's doing it's job.

If only Hillary could be similarly affected.

[AtomicKitten]

27. Roger that.

:thumbsup:

[SoCalDem]

37. Poor HRC..

[krkaufman]

50. o.m.g., that is a fantastic editorial cartoon

I'm not sure her campaign could be more succinctly captured.

[bilgewaterbill]

8. Close race = big ratings.

[Cha]

12. The corporatemediawhores need

to dry up and become extinct.

[krkaufman]

15. Close race == big advertising revenues

If the nominee were decided, the TV networks would be out millions -- that they will now get.

[featherman]

16. CNN: HILLARY CLINTON COUGHED THREE TIMES TODAY!!!!

oh yeah... and that other guy won a primary somewhere

[IDemo]

17. "Hillary finds Big Mo in Wyoming"

Big MO (Missouri River)

[underpants]

19. Inside the castle walls there is much panic

Expect a full treatment tomorrow

[Eurobabe]

22. CNN has been f'ing outrageous covering for the Clintons lately. n/t

[krkaufman]

26. I've been watching just a bit this evening ...

... and it seems like there's double the coverage of Clinton speeches (between Hill/Bill) to Obama speeches.

[Eurobabe]

31. Asswipe screamer Rick Sanchez is an idiot. I wrote to CNN

blasting his horrible segment with that clip of bigot Steve King. Sanchez was absolutely obnoxious interrupting the stacked panel (of course either Repubes or HRC supporters)

[krkaufman]

38. I think I'm yet to see that. (I'm 3h40m delayed)

Actually, re: Sanchez, he *just* came on, with a panel of what appears to be a Clinton supporter, a McCain supporter (why?), and some other dude (editor of "Southern Political Report"). Where's the Obama supporter? (Also, Sanchez seems to be hyped on coke.)


Let's capture the early moronic statements...

Nonsensical Clinton supporter just said: "The odds are stacked against her (Clinton), they've always been stacked against her."

Editor dude: "Mississippi really doesn't count that much because I think it's already been pretty well discounted in Obama's favor."

[Eurobabe]

41. Oh I loved that guy re: Mississippi Doesn't MATTER.

:eyes:

[krkaufman]

42. And, dear lord, I just watched the Steve King segment.

... and fired-off a livid email to CNN immediately.

I love how Sanchez was sitting there pondering whether King's comments would have an effect, while failing to state how despicable and bigoted King was, and also failing to acknowledge that CNN's airing King's comments certainly did more damage than their original airing on radio.

Just wow...

[Eurobabe]

46. I tried to call Kings' Washington office, but voicemail is FULL

I will call tomorrow when a live person is there to hear my comments on that bigoted racist. He has no place in American politics. I hope Iowa gives him his walking papers. I wonder if the ethics committee can censure this sick puppy for his comments? Will investigate that too.

[krkaufman]

47. I'm with you in regards to House censure.

King's comments were waaay over the line.

[TwilightGardener]

45. By that "MS doesn't count" logic, why did Ohio count? Hillary was expected to win that--

and yet, it supposedly transformed the race when she won, AS EXPECTED. Please, somebody, tell me I'm crazy and that Obama DOESN'T have to work twice as hard and do twice as well to get any credit or respect whatsoever. I think I'm losing my mind.

[krkaufman]

48. I'm as white as white can be ...

... but you just expressed, I believe, the lament the black professional in this country.

fo' shizzle. (see!?)


edit: p.s. I'm not saying that Obama's media treatment is related to his race, only that your comment was coincidentally expressing something I've heard in the past.

[krkaufman]

24. And, just 15-20 minutes later, here's Jessica Yellin, again, summarizing the day's results ...

... again with the humorous approach ...

Jessica Yellin (CNN): "CNN has projected Barack Obama the winner of today's Wyoming caucuses, with 7 delegates for him, at least 4 delegates for Sen. Hillary Clinton"

... so that undetermined delegate is likely to go to Clinton?

... and Barack Obama isn't also a senator?


(Again, am not making any broad declarations; am just chuckling at the subtle bias of crappy journalism.)

[Cha]

33. Just saw this in the NYT..

CHEYENNE, Wyo. — Senator Barack Obama chalked up a victory in another caucus state on Saturday, beating Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in Wyoming by a wide margin.

More Politics News
The victory, while in a state with only 18 delegates, was welcome news for the Obama campaign as it sought to blunt any advantage Mrs. Clinton might gain from her victories in Ohio and Texas on Tuesday.

Mrs. Clinton campaigned here Friday, a day after her husband and daughter, signaling the stakes every contest holds in the fierce battle for the Democratic nomination.

Party officials reported extremely high turnout at caucus sites across the state. In Laramie County, more than 1,500 came to cast votes at the caucus site, quickly filling the auditorium in downtown Cheyenne. Hundreds waited outside for hours until they could enter and vote. (In 2004, only 160 people showed up for the Laramie County caucus.)

Wyoming Democrats, usually a lonely bunch in an overwhelmingly Republican state, basked in their moment in the spotlight.

More>
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/us/politics/09wyoming.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

It'll be great when the rest of the news catches up to Keith Olbemann and reports that Obama actually got more delegates in Texas.

[krkaufman]

49. Thanks for the report. Good to see someone report it fairly.

"Obama won big, though in a state with few delegates at stake." Not so hard, is it?

[milkyway]

34. Jessica Yellin is a fucking idiot. She continually gets confused, by her own admission, about the

difference between pledged delegates and superdelegates. I rarely watch CNN, yet I have seen her a few times give the audience CNN's willfully misleading delegate totals--that include supers but until recently wouldn't say so--and claiming they are the pledged delegate totals.

And somebody should tell her that the 1 Wyoming delegate to be determined is an add-on delegate that goes to the winner--Obama. Technically it will be given at the state convention, but it has been won by Obama. He won Wyoming 8-5.

And Jessica Yellin somehow graduated from Harvard. Must've been a legacy.

[JimGinPA]

35. LOL

:rofl:

[krkaufman]

51. great info, and hilariously delivered. thanks. n/t

[Cha]

56. Wouldn't it be wonderful if

cnn would lose sponsor money and ratings because they weren't nooze ya could trust anymore? Stranger things have happened. fauxnooze is obvious but cnn is worse because they try reporting behind a mask.

[NMMatt]

40. This is the result of the Clinton media manipulation

They kept whining about bias that didn't really exist and kept pounding home their spin. They know how to play the media like Republicans. There are two things you need to know: the worst thing that you can accuse the media of is bias and the media is really lazy and can't be bothered to actually investigate the truth about anything.

So you whine about bias and repeatedly tell the same lies and half-truths. It makes the media pick up on your arguments and split the difference even if the other side is actually telling the truth.

[krkaufman]

52. I agree with all you said. Except it appears ...

... that the issue, in this particular case, may just be the reporter.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4981147&mesg_id=4981808

[New Dawn]

53. The GOPers were right about one thing:

"Clinton News Network"

[LTR]

54. I'm dizzy from all the spinning

:crazy:

[Hope And Change]

55. CNN=Clinton News Network