The DU has turned into

[CatnHat]

a third grade analysis of politics. Obama blows his nose, it's on a thread; Obama kisses babies, it's on a thread; Obama gets a second rate endorsement; it's on a thread. Oh brother. A candidate with no great accomplishments is worshiped by some people as a god; and to top it off, Obama and supporters proclaim it's Hillary Clinton who is destroying the democratic party.

The democratic party has been around a long time, and the likes of Obama and his fans are the newbies. Obama, and his fans have no respect for the party whatsoever, they are just utterly consumed in winning, not for the party, but for their own egos. It's sickening. If this is what the democratic party has stooped too, I am changing my registration to independent, right after I vote for Clinton. That's it. If the leadership of our party, can't figure out what to with Obama and his upstart followers, than it's time to the right thing; and leave the democratic party to the crazed fans and their "candidate" who has absolutely no credentials.

[TwilightGardener]

1. Hey you kids, get off my Democratic lawn!!!

[DeadElephant_ORG]

16. LOL ! oh that was sweet !

[niceypoo]

24. Oh yes, those impressionable kids.....

"You Kids, get off my sidewalk!"





Theres a reason they recruit 17 - 24 year olds to be in the military....impressionability

[aquarius dawning]

31. yeah, caucuses and super delegates. how democratic.

[TomClash]

38. Since when is a caucus "undemocratic?" nt

[WritingIsMyReligion]

54. Haha.

:rofl:

[OzarkDem]

60. Kids, you can't carry the election

Sorry, but you can't. Those are part of the lessons of growing up - that passion isn't enough.

[TwilightGardener]

62. I'm almost forty, teenagers of my own, a lifelong Democrat. I appreciate

being called a "kid"--so, does that mean the voting age should be raised to...what? 40? 50? 60? You let me know when I stop being a kid.

[Swamp Rat]

2. Oh the irony!

:rofl:

[emilyg]

3. DU has become a sleazy whorehouse.

[Horse with no Name]

4. I think you are being too kind. n/t

[NanceGreggs]

5. I think you're right ...

... this party probably isn't a good fit for you.

Imagine people voting for their choice instead of yours! It sounds way too - uh, what's the word? - oh, yeah, way too democratic.

[istopforcookies]

8. Limbaugh=Clinton

Try again.

[CatnHat]

12. How dare you

I have been a democrat for many years; and have never seen such vile, disrespectful behavior portrayed by some Obama supporters like I have seen on this board. If you condone it, fine, act like a bunch of republicans on steroids. Be my guest. I think it's you and your ilk who might need to figure out what "party" you actually represent.

And by the way, I don't give a rat's ass who votes for who; but let me say this, this is the Obama campaign's problem, keeping his supporters in line. Take your dirty tactics and posts to someone else who might appreciate them.

[Swamp Rat]

21. Excuse me, but NanceGreggs is a highly respected member of this message board. n/t

[CatnHat]

33. Do I have to

bow down to her too. Give me a break.

[ms liberty]

52. I haven't scrolled down yet, but I am so looking forward to her reply to this person!

Hi Swampy! :hi:

[NanceGreggs]

22. How dare I?

You're the one who's talking about leaving the party because everyone doesn't see things your way.

"I think it's you and your ilk who might need to figure out what "party" you actually represent."

Actually, I don't deign to 'represent' a party, but I am a member of one, the Democratic Party.

You might have heard of us - we believe in being able to vote for the candidate of our own choice, not yours.

Dirty tactics? I didn't realize that supporting my candidate of choice was a "tactic" - I thought it was part of the party's process of selecting a nominee.

Maybe you can enlighten all of us as to how the party should be run - before you leave it, of course.

[CatnHat]

32. Yes,

I simply called out the "tactics" being used by some Obama supporters. This is not a republican board, the slams made here do represent "republican" tactics. Whether you believe it or not, your choice. It's my choice also, to give my opinion, that's my choice. If you can't see the difference, that is your problem.

And as far as process of selecting a nominee, the democratic party is in chaos, and that's what bothers me, and in my opinion, it is due to largely to the fact that more emphasis is being placed in character bashings than the issues; and evidentially that all that seems to matter with some Obama supporters. You can try to patronize me all you want, it doesn't change my opinion on what our "party" has stooped too.

[intaglio]

45. As opposed to the tactics of hillary "supporters"

Which have been so ... clean (for a certain value clean) of course

[NanceGreggs]

56. You post about how the Obama supporters ...

... are ruining this board, and this election process, and threaten to "leave the party" out of disgust.

You lump all Obama supporters together, and carry on about how they don't care about the party or the country, only their own egos. And you obviously have a real problem with the concept of Democrats being permitted to make their own choice between the two candidates running, instead of just deferring to your superior expertise in deciding who should be president.

And then you whine about what a cesspool of infighting and insults this board has become.

You are, if nothing else, highly amusing.

[jgraz]

40. Yes, HOW DARE YOU, NANCE

Don't you realize this unstarred, no-profile DUer has over 400 POSTS???/////??? Please show him/her/it the respect he/she/it deserves, you frickin newbie.

[cali]

23. How dare YOU?

I've been a democrat for over 30 years. I've worked for dem candidates. Who the hell do you think you are making such bullshit accusations?

There has been just as much filth from YOUR side, dear. Actually more proportioniately, when you consider there are fewer Clintonians than Obamanians here. People who see the bashing as one sided are simply fools or blinded partisans or both. And I can't say what I think of YOUR ilk who won't vote for the dem candidate. I don't care if you support Clinton or Obama but if you won't vote for the dem nominee, you are simply petty and selfish.

[mythyc]

37. besides the fact that threads like this attempt to sell the impression that ...

....the actions of a vociferous but small minority represent the entirety of obama's support base, either out there or here at DU (either way a paradigmatic part-for-whole fallacy), there's something else going on.

about a dozen + times a day now some "neutral-postured" clinton advocate comes steamrolling in ranting, scathing, pontificating, razing in such a reactionary maelstrom about how obama's people are so disrespectful, angry, entitled, puerile....

...

when the same thing going on both sides there are only a few interpretive possibilities:

if it's a joke: irony

if both are accepted: paradox

if one is denied: contradiction

if the other is practiced as the one: hypocrisy

this could be cut and pasted to any thread like it; on both sides for that matter. you be the judge...

[femmedem]

48. Yes, the board's vile lately. But the poo's been flying from both camps.

Your own OP is pretty inflammatory. I don't think you can demean half the nation's democrats and our almost certain nominee in the terms you just used and then place the blame for DU's recent tone solely on Obama supporters.

[SoCalDem]

53. "...give a rat's ass who votes for who..."..

That would be "whom"..:rofl:

[niceypoo]

6. It has turned into a sewer

It isnt the democratic party anymore

[lligrd]

7. One Old Time Democrat Who Thinks Your Post Reeks!

Newbies? Are you now biased toward the next generation? Good luck with that.

[istopforcookies]

9. What about bias

against women, lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, and transgendered?

Or doesn't that count?

[lligrd]

13. Do Hillary Supporters Hate Them Too?

You are right. Hillary has done them all a disservice by trying to use them and Obama does have the better plan to help them. Thankfully, the younger generation seems to have little bias toward an individuals sexuality and is wise enough to vote Obama. Thanks for pointing that out.

[DURHAM D]

14. You forgot early and pre boomers and working class.

Note: working class as defined by Obama supporters and right wingers is "uneducated" and "stupid".

Put all of those groups together and it sounds like the ingredients for a new party.

[lligrd]

25. Uh, I Think The Working Class Incorporates All You Have

mentioned including me and most Obama supporters (despite what Hillary acts out for you). But feel free to join the LIEberman party.

[CatnHat]

17. No at all

I am sick of seeing posts by new voters who proclaim Obama must win at all costs. What the hell is that. The tactics used by some Obama supporters aren't "democratic". Before people join a party, make sure what the party stands for, clue, the "democratic" party doesn't operate like the republicans. I am not from the "old school"; just hate seeing the democratic party demonized by some of the Obama supporters.

[lligrd]

27. You're Right, Hillary Supporters Alone Play Fair

especially you. :sarcasm:

[Gore1FL]

10. You forgot the converse

Obama blows his nose, it's on a thread that says it is a proof of failure of his healthcare plan.

Obama kisses babies, it's on a thread that says it is a proof he is a pedophile.

Obama gets a second rate endorsement it's on a thread that says th endorser stole a pack of gum when he was twelve andObama is complicit.

Your overall disgust with the quality of threads is understandable. The repeats, and threepeats of the same arguments, polls, etc. But there are many people pulling for both candidates that stretch from newbies to seniors. The Ego thing is shared by the supporters of both candidates, for example, a Hillary supporter threatening to change party affiliation.

The blame falls on both sides,and frankly this thread, itself is an example of the same silliness you are complaining about.

[NanceGreggs]

11. .......

:applause:

[writes3000]

15. Great, great response. Thank you. n/t

[DeadElephant_ORG]

18. great response

[New Dawn]

19. The OP is just mad that the majority of posters here are not Clinton supporters.

[CatnHat]

35. Nope

not mad. Just baffled by the blind fools who support Obama; Obama has no credentials to be elected, no experience, let's his surrogates do his "dirty" work for him; and shows no judgment by surrounding himself with questionable friends and staff. Oh yeah, he talks good. :crazy:

[cali]

20. waaah

what a bunch of sour grapes. First of all, there is no such abundance of threads about Obama and there is just as many of the same caliber about Clinton.

Secondly, I, for one, heve been a dem for 30 years and a dem activist for almost 25. I don't adore Obama. I think he's a flawed candidate, but he's who I support and in my view he's less imperfect than Hill. Furthermore, my 87 year old mother who's been a dem activist for 60+ years supports him- and she's been a delegate to 4 conventions. My forty something and fifty something brother and sisters support Obama- all long time dems.

Leave the party. You're full of it. You won't be missed anymore than any other whining ass.

[indimuse]

42. and a 101 year old woman voted for HIllary!

and her veeerrrry old black friend did the same...why? Because they were smart and voted for the TRUE democrat with a lifetime of dedication to the betterment of all..not some Chicago politician..with a string of thugs as backers under fed indictment and whatever else might surface
between now and ....Hillary WILL be our next president. Barack should stand down!NOW!



:::> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x102536


clip of 101 year old woman's reasons for voting for Hillary.:)

[wiley]

26. Right after voting for Clinton, I'm going to

expose the fraudulent so-called progressive and left wing blogmasters as exactly what they are. Paid money changers who traffic in web ads and hits. Performance artist wannabees who have no other way to have their voice heard but to participate in some type of frenetic orgy of idolatry over a political figure. Pseudo-MSM bashers who just want their take of the cut. The Democratic Party will thrive and survive without the maniacal tantrum throwing juveniles who think huddling in a mass of 15 to 25 year olds represents Democracy. Get this young and deluded Democrats. Being a progressive Democrat doesn't mean that the next step in the political progression process is evolving into rugby like matches where fans start brawls in the stands.

Where did all this raging anger and hatred of women in Obama supporters come from? The only thing"new" about Obama is that he will be the new St.Patrick of America, enticing the little narcissistic snakes of the Democratic Party to drown in their own self-absorption.

[Andromeda]

28. Great post.

:woohoo:

[cali]

30. more like a delusional post but hey

whatever rocks your boat.

[cali]

29. Paranoid delusions and delusions of grandeur

You won't be able to do any such thing. Most of the left wing bloggers aren't paid money changers- well hill fan Taylor Marsh is, but everyone knows that. And most of Obama's supporters aren't under 25 as can be seen in the demographics of who voted.

The vast majority of Obama supporters do NOT hate women, and there's been plenty of racism on this very board directed toward Obama. Lots of tombstones due to it.

Obama is not some charlatan mass hypnotist anymore than Hill is an evil neo-con in dem clothing. That's all stupid hyperbole. Congrats on joining the idiot group.

Oh, and I'm 52 and a dem of over 30 years. And a woman. And a mother. And someone who will vote for the dem nominee. And I think you're simply a bitter little soul.

[wiley]

36. Bitter Old or Little Soul?

Wow. Taylor Marsh is a paid money-changer? Interesting. And you've polled everyone and they all knew that? Did you poll people about Randi Rhodes or other people? Randi gets paid, doesn't she? Interesting how I stated nothing about race, but it was your response to Obama supporters not hating women. Obama is just a vehicle, like any Saint, of reinforcing a certain gospel. Also very interesting you use the expression "bitter little soul". I know that the "little"part is just coincidentally homophobic. But Thank You for sharing your feelings with me. Oh, and did I state that I wouldn't vote for Obama if he secures the nomination? Also, what I've seen in my decades of life as a Democrat, is that women can be as hateful of other women as men can be of women. Race? You don't have a clue who you are talking to, but you're definitely right about racist posts on this board. The Demographics of Obama votes are debatable. Do you think that every Obama supporter would go into their Congressperson's office and demand they support Obama's plans? Not if they are Repukes messing with the primary system. Obama doesn't do so well in closed primaries. That has to give you some clue.

I'm out of here again. This is like a really bad take off of Lord of the Flies.

[Tactical Progressive]

34. Exactly

As ugly as Obama supporters have been and continue to be towards Hillary, it is the Democratic rank and file that I'm beginning to lose all respect for.

Democrats aren't supposed to be the charisma-worshippers in this equation. It's just obscene, made ten times more unacceptable given the blatantly insufficient - even when inflated - resume of Obama and his complete lack of proven skills. Is it for reading rah-rah preachery speeches off of teleprompters? I'm already tired of them completely, and I can't be the only one. Or is it losing 20 debate performances in a row that appeals to Dems?

If this is Democrats now, then what does Democratic mean any more? Is it all just Political Idol with Obama as Sanjaya? It would have to be worse than that, because at least American Idol fans voted Sanjaya off.

I keep wating for the Democratic party to wake up.

[buff2]

39. They are not going to wake up

until Obama wins the nomination with the help of the repukes,then when the general election rolls around the repukes will jump back over to McCain and we will lose the WH.....AGAIN! It makes me sick to think we will have another 4 years of the bu$h policies. :puke:

[intaglio]

46. perhaps the Democratic party has moved on

Perhaps they do not want to support the Limbaugh/Coulter candidate

[indimuse]

41. K&R!!

all the way! bravo!

[Window]

43. Well, if that's the way you really feel, don't just leave the democratic party

after you vote for Hillary, leave DU now.

BTW, it's your prerogative to vote your choice. Ain't democracy grand!

[blogslut]

44. Then you better grab your pearls and find a fainting couch

Because we ain't going anywhere, hon. Bless your heart. We'll tell the kids you said "Hi". :hi:

[mtnsnake]

47. You pegged DU perfectly

For that you get an enthusiastic K&R from me :thumbsup:

[Tennessee Gal]

49. It is harmful to the Party.

I agree.

Please people, wake up.

[Dammit Ann]

50. please, be so kind and list clinton's

credentials once again. i'm foggy.

[stillrockin]

51. Yep, Democratic Party is about democracy. Not a good fit for you.

[Froward69]

55. Back in '91-'92

us BILL Clinton supporters were considered "NEWBIES" too. So now Hillary supporters want to discount discredit and disenfranchise Obama supporters. JUST LIKE we were BACK then.

seems the kettle is calling the pot black.

Rather than welcome new energetic DEMOCRATS into the fold.

Hillary supporters would have them sit down and shut up like They refused to do... back in the day.

[otohara]

57. Changing to Independent

in my state that means I'd let everyone else choose the candidate. Why on earth would you throw away your most important vote out of spite?

[HeraldSquare212]

58. I guess you weren't here for the anti-Obama swarm posting in Jan and into Feb

That's when this place began tanking.

[Buzz Clik]

59. Oh. Those of us who support Obama are the mental equivalent of third graders.

I'm in my mid fifties voting and have not missed voting in a GE since Nixon's second term.

Fuck you.

[whatchamacallit]

61. "I proclaim this to be the best shit post yet written"

you are the Salieri of DU